Just to be safe to make sure you aren't trying to gamble with an undercover badge it will be best to make sure he knows the secret handshake.jay helfert said:The word is to be DISCREET with your gambling, meaning no money on the lights, no money thrown on the table, no yelling about bets, etc. Yes, you can make a side bet, just make it quietly without yelling across the room. You can also exchange money on the sidelines, but do so without fanfare.
Anybody who has gambled at pool knows what we're talking about here. Sometimes you just have to tone it down a little, and this is one of those times. Yes, it may be a little quieter this year, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are no "rules" to govern this type a thing. It is more a matter of using common sense.
Bars in Ontario Canada get around this by giving players a $11 coupon for the bar if they pay $10 and play in the poker tournament. Right on the coupon it says you are not required to buy one to play. If you have a good supportive group of players they will all buy coupons anyway without you having to say it's mandetory. Plus they are getting a free dollar but money is being spent in your bar.nfty9er said:You are right about 2 people gambling on skill, however when it comes to allowing gambling on card games in a pool hall, you better think again. No matter how you attempt to circumvent the law if you make even a nickel as a direct result of the card game, you are illegal. Sell a coke, u lose, rent the table u lose, sell a beer, chips, candy you lose. They consider all of that profit to you. I have checked in this for the last 10 years trying to get on the poker bandwagon but there is no way around it. New license, forget it, they have a moratorium until at least 2015, recently raised from 2011. Be on Indian land, no problem. It is a joke.
For the past ten years it's been held at the Executive West in Louisville. This is its first year at the Horseshoe Casino, which is in nearby Elizabeth, Indiana.cuechick said:A little OT but wasn't the DCC always in Kentucky and got it's name from the Kentucky Derby? Is this a new venue or was it held in this same casino last year? Or has it always been there?
nfty9er said:You are right about 2 people gambling on skill, however when it comes to allowing gambling on card games in a pool hall, you better think again. No matter how you attempt to circumvent the law if you make even a nickel as a direct result of the card game, you are illegal. Sell a coke, u lose, rent the table u lose, sell a beer, chips, candy you lose. They consider all of that profit to you. I have checked in this for the last 10 years trying to get on the poker bandwagon but there is no way around it. New license, forget it, they have a moratorium until at least 2015, recently raised from 2011. Be on Indian land, no problem. It is a joke.
alstl said:Just to be safe to make sure you aren't trying to gamble with an undercover badge it will be best to make sure he knows the secret handshake.
I would pay money to see a video of Fats when he was testifying in court after he got busted at Johnston City. They probably dropped charges just to get him to shut up.
jay helfert said:The word is to be DISCREET with your gambling, meaning no money on the lights, no money thrown on the table, no yelling about bets, etc. Yes, you can make a side bet, just make it quietly without yelling across the room. You can also exchange money on the sidelines, but do so without fanfare.
Anybody who has gambled at pool knows what we're talking about here. Sometimes you just have to tone it down a little, and this is one of those times. Yes, it may be a little quieter this year, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are no "rules" to govern this type a thing. It is more a matter of using common sense.
Johnnyt said:Here's how my luck goes. When I was about 20 a cop stopped me for loud glass packs. It was a chicken sh** ticket. I told him if he took his gun off and took his shirt off we could go in back of thr billboard and get it on. Well he did. I figured I'd been boxing at 130 lbs for a few years and and had a good record of 3-1, he only weighed about 150.
He used my body as the heavy bag and my head as the speed bag. When I finally went down I stayed there (a first for me). I found out much too late that he was the champ in 156 lbs in the police dept in the Northeast. Johnnyt
jay helfert said:The word is to be DISCREET with your gambling, meaning no money on the lights, no money thrown on the table, no yelling about bets, etc. Yes, you can make a side bet, just make it quietly without yelling across the room. You can also exchange money on the sidelines, but do so without fanfare.
Anybody who has gambled at pool knows what we're talking about here. Sometimes you just have to tone it down a little, and this is one of those times. Yes, it may be a little quieter this year, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are no "rules" to govern this type a thing. It is more a matter of using common sense.
gunzby said:LoL ahahaa for some reason I got reminded of this hilarious video VIDEO
Johnnyt said:Yeah that's me. My luck with the cop happened again two more time. I called out who I thought was a nerd in shorts (no one was ever caught in shorts in my gang of friends. Anyhow it was at a boardwalk bar in ong Beach, Long Island. We went under the boardwalk and he about killed me.
The other time was in the Army in Alaska. I saw a sign on the gym corkboard that if you joined the boxing team you didn't have to spend 30 days in the field (war games and tents) in Feb. I figured, "who the hell was going to be a good boxer up here". For my 6th fight I was put in with the Texas AAU champ, 144-0.
He didn't knock me down but I was *issing blood for two days after the fight. In my small mind I thought he didn't want to knock me out, he just wanted to hurt me bad. The next time I was off post in Fairbanks I found him in a bar and beat hell out of him with a chrome barstool. And then the MP's came. That's another story. Johnnyt
Greg/Diamond said:Just left the Casino. All tables are in the building and many lights have been hung...Everything is looking very good as we're ahead of schedule.
Thought I would give a short reply to this post.
I realize everyones concerns and here's how I see it. I don't expect many changes from past DCC's regarding action other than those due to the economy...In the past, pool action in Casino's was stopped because the Casino wanted you playing on their tables not pool tables. Times have changed and the Horseshoe is content with making money on rooms, food, beverages and now feel they will get their share of people playing on their tables without the need to restrict people from playing on pool tables....They are well aware that the pool tables will be open 24/7 and have make arrangements to keep us safe, warm and well fed.
I don't feel that players need to refrain from woofing...I would in a nutshell "protect the money". Use common sense and we'll all have a great time......Greg
Greg/Diamond said:Just left the Casino. All tables are in the building and many lights have been hung...Everything is looking very good as we're ahead of schedule.
Thought I would give a short reply to this post.
I realize everyones concerns and here's how I see it. I don't expect many changes from past DCC's regarding action other than those due to the economy...In the past, pool action in Casino's was stopped because the Casino wanted you playing on their tables not pool tables. Times have changed and the Horseshoe is content with making money on rooms, food, beverages and now feel they will get their share of people playing on their tables without the need to restrict people from playing on pool tables....They are well aware that the pool tables will be open 24/7 and have make arrangements to keep us safe, warm and well fed.
I don't feel that players need to refrain from woofing...I would in a nutshell "protect the money". Use common sense and we'll all have a great time......Greg
Fatboy said:all good pool rooms have a "No Gambling Allowed" sign, Ames did remember???
"The Pit" in VF (nor anything else at VF) is like the DCC. I don't know if there are pool rooms in the VF area that have an action pit like VF but I can say that I've never seen that at any other tournament or pool room for that matter.iusedtoberich said:I've never been to DCC, but I've been to Valley Forge Expo almost every year. I am assuming they are similar...
In VF, there is the main money table, and a group of 100 people surrounding the table screaming side bets. This is for the normal 100 per game king of the hill format that anyone can put their name on a list to join.
When a game gets formed between two individuals, the crowd around their table is even bigger. The side bets are bigger. And the money is all counted out on the table and posted on the light during the negotiation phase.
Is this how DCC was in the past years? And is this the type of behavior that will now be frowned upon? I think that is still unclear from all the posts by those in the know.
Is side betting allowed period? If it is, how discreet does it have to be? Can no money be posted on the light? Can no group surround a table and make side bets amongst themselves, or with the players' backers?
These are the questions that are unclear to me. Maybe they will only be answered by being tested at the actual DCC. But all the posts so far have been vague to me as to exactly what is and what is not allowed.
Greg/Diamond said:I don't feel that players need to refrain from woofing...I would in a nutshell "protect the money". Use common sense and we'll all have a great time......Greg
sjm said:Yeah, and countless poolhalls have a "no masse shots" sign. In forty plus years around poolrooms, I must admit I've never seen anyone ejected for playing a masse shot.
Read this and understand....jay helfert said:The word is to be DISCREET with your gambling, meaning no money on the lights, no money thrown on the table, no yelling about bets, etc. Yes, you can make a side bet, just make it quietly without yelling across the room. You can also exchange money on the sidelines, but do so without fanfare.
Anybody who has gambled at pool knows what we're talking about here. Sometimes you just have to tone it down a little, and this is one of those times. Yes, it may be a little quieter this year, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. There are no "rules" to govern this type a thing. It is more a matter of using common sense.