Lost Arts

MapleMan

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People will talk about lost arts in other sports: Base hitting batters and defensive techniques in boxing. Are there any in pool? Obviously the game and equipment has changed so much since Hoppe chalked up but I was just curious if anybody had a few.
 
turning cue balls down from ivory tusks.

not lost but dwindling:

-really hand-crafted cues
-hand carved billiard tables and racks
-the art of performance
(building a 'persona' or character, and working the crowd/fans)
 
I think it would be mainly the old games that are going away and the ability/skills etc to play them well.

not lost but dwindling:

-really hand-crafted cues
-hand carved billiard tables and racks
-the art of performance
(building a 'persona' or character, and working the crowd/fans)


"Handmade" cues? Oddly perhaps, I feel that there are at least as many, perhaps even more cue makers that actually engage in that than there ever were before. Perhaps they are a bit overshadowed by those employing more modern construction techniques, but I think there are actually more of them than ever.

Hand carved stuff? Maybe dwindling a bit I would think.

The art of performance? A very interesting notion and worthy of some discussion I think. So much of pool is quantified today, and that seems to outweigh the art so much I think. The higher level players today are so much more technologists/technicians than artists compared to the players of old I think. I would agree that the art is dying.




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-Probably more players could full-cue jump as a secret weapon, before the invention of the jump cue.
-Hustling in general, you can't pull some 'john doe the wealthy auto dealer' routine anymore.
-Pushout tactics... these days players just push to a jump shot
-Strategic slop... with 9b falling out of favor (to 10b) and everyone going with call-shot 8b,
you can't do some 3-way flyer with a chance to make several different shots.
-Poker pool, kelly pool, golf, 3ball, other pill bottle games... I absolutely never see these anymore.
 
People will talk about lost arts in other sports: Base hitting batters and defensive techniques in boxing. Are there any in pool? Obviously the game and equipment has changed so much since Hoppe chalked up but I was just curious if anybody had a few.

If I understand what you're asking...

Lost arts in pool:

The spot shot
Breaking out clusters in 9-ball
Two-way offensive shots
The Art of 8-ball
Full cue jump shots
Power shots
 
Weird! I have never heard of a slip stroke before this thread so I looked it up. I do it most of the time, and have had guys tell me not to do that (You know the type of guy...the ones who have to 'coach' you after every shot you take because you're a female and obviously can't possibly know how to shoot pool) lol.

I would love for someone to show me a "real" slip stroke. I think it's gone.

Josh
 
Weird! I have never heard of a slip stroke before this thread so I looked it up. I do it most of the time, and have had guys tell me not to do that (You know the type of guy...the ones who have to 'coach' you after every shot you take because you're a female and obviously can't possibly know how to shoot pool) lol.

I wanna see!

LOL, and yes, I do know that type of ass. I'm a dude, and it ticks me off. You're a female, and you shoot pool; you're hot. Add in a "real" slip stroke and I'm available for instant marriage; no coaching included.
:wink:


Josh
 
gotta ask

Weird! I have never heard of a slip stroke before this thread so I looked it up. I do it most of the time, and have had guys tell me not to do that (You know the type of guy...the ones who have to 'coach' you after every shot you take because you're a female and obviously can't possibly know how to shoot pool) lol.


A real slip stroke is rarer than hens teeth these days so I have to ask, do you slip your hand back as you start the final backstroke or do you let the cue slip through your hand when you hit the cue ball?

Just idle curiosity, I can't remember anyone having a natural slip stroke but it had to start somewhere.

Hu
 
Around these parts - Big Table Pool.

It's really sad, but if you want to compete around here you have to play on the bar table. It's the thing that is hurting my game more than anything. There's just not much action on the big tables - with the exception of the odd game of one-pocket or bank pool.

I'd give anything for there to be a local tournament that was played on the big tables. This would really help my game.
 
I wanna see!

LOL, and yes, I do know that type of ass. I'm a dude, and it ticks me off. You're a female, and you shoot pool; you're hot. Add in a "real" slip stroke and I'm available for instant marriage; no coaching included.
:wink:


Josh

It's always nice to see such a mature, enlightened attitude towards female pool players.
I'm sure she appreciates you taking her seriously and treating her respectfully.
 
It's always nice to see such a mature, enlightened attitude towards female pool players.
I'm sure she appreciates you taking her seriously and treating her respectfully.

Umm, I was taking her seriously. I would like to see her slip stroke. Re-read Hu's post and you'll see why.

Did you miss the first sentence of my second paragraph? Did you, also, miss the smiley face at the end of my second paragraph? It's called playful banter. You, obviously, could use some yourself. Stop being such a hard ass behind a keyboard.

Furthermore, I've never once tried to "coach" a female player as stated.

Josh
 
Find old flicks of Jimmy Moore if you want to see a real slip-stroke in action.
 
Courtesy of JohnnyP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb6CKYqTC98

Wayne Norcross...camera little shaky..but check .43, .54, 1.13 for starters...I think this is a slipstroke.

Wayne is a class guy with a classy stroke.

Took me a minute to see it... it's like they tied the camera to a cat and then went nuts with the laser pointer! The stoke looks cool, but seems like it would feel weird.

Umm, I was taking her seriously. I would like to see her slip stroke. Re-read Hu's post and you'll see why.

Did you miss the first sentence of my second paragraph?

Maybe she didn't mind and thought it was funny. I dunno.

I think part of taking a woman seriously is you don't immediately say
"YOU'RE HOT I'D TOTALLY MARRY YOU!!!" even if you are just kidding around.

Any attractive female in a pool hall probably hears so much "banter" that it gets old after a while.
It doesn't exactly come across like "I really respect what you have to say".
 
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