Matlock is tired of all of the lies..

[clint3612]

One big production....

Ok guys, many of you have been really unfair to roosterman. I'll tell you why. First of all, he is merely setting some things straight. Not one has been derogatory to Keith or any other player or poster. There is almost a cult of personality ideology around here. It seems you can't simply challenge any top players opinions or stories. I happen to like Keith. How can you not, however, if I disagree with him, I should be able to state my opinion (with respect of course). I am not advocating any type rude and asinine behaviour to the players or even fellow posters.However, if we have an opinion, we should be able to speak it. That goes with any other posters here. I'm sure I'll be flamed for this comment but it needed to be said. Roosterman was told by a great source that Keith had problems with Eugene Browning at one time. I'm not sure of the score between them, it really doesn't matter. What does matter, is that a guy should't be neccesarily be flamed because he is sticking up for player that knows him well and wanted roosterman to state certain facts and clear up some incorrect stories. One thing roosteman can say is that he is close friends with David and he has matched up with Keith in Vegas and played David several times for the cash. In his opinion, he thinks David plays better. JAM would think Keith might be the better player, Jay Helfert may think keith plays better, Danny D. may have a penchant for Keith as well. What I'm saying is one should be able to speak their thoughts; if they are respectful without being practically thrown out of the forum. I do not want Keith to ever think I'm bashing him or any other good player. However, just because someone shoots straighter than me, I should't have to just shut my mouth either. So, my apologies to Keith, Jam, or anybody I might have offended. It has been mentioned or insinuated that roosterman doesn't have any class, I would have to disagree, he does right by pool players and treats people fairly, not to mention not bad damn player himself. You guys have to remember, ya'll jumped on him from the start!

 

[punter]

Ok guys, many of you have been really unfair to roosterman. I'll tell you why. First of all, he is merely setting some things straight. Not one has been derogatory to Keith or any other player or poster. There is almost a cult of personality ideology around here. It seems you can't simply challenge any top players opinions or stories. I happen to like Keith. How can you not, however, if I disagree with him, I should be able to state my opinion (with respect of course). I am not advocating any type rude and asinine behaviour to the players or even fellow posters.However, if we have an opinion, we should be able to speak it. That goes with any other posters here. I'm sure I'll be flamed for this comment but it needed to be said. Roosterman was told by a great source that Keith had problems with Eugene Browning at one time. I'm not sure of the score between them, it really doesn't matter. What does matter, is that a guy should't be neccesarily be flamed because he is sticking up for player that knows him well and wanted roosterman to state certain facts and clear up some incorrect stories. One thing roosteman can say is that he is close friends with David and he has matched up with Keith in Vegas and played David several times for the cash. In his opinion, he thinks David plays better. JAM would think Keith might be the better player, Jay Helfert may think keith plays better, Danny D. may have a penchant for Keith as well. What I'm saying is one should be able to speak their thoughts; if they are respectful without being practically thrown out of the forum. I do not want Keith to ever think I'm bashing him or any other good player. However, just because someone shoots straighter than me, I should't have to just shut my mouth either. So, my apologies to Keith, Jam, or anybody I might have offended. It has been mentioned or insinuated that roosterman doesn't have any class, I would have to disagree, he does right by pool players and treats people fairly, not to mention not bad damn player himself. You guys have to remember, ya'll jumped on him from the start!

I haven't read every post in the thread, but for the most part people are just expressing their opinions and experiences. When Huckster said he saw Parica win, with his own eyes, and you come back and say no, that is wrong, when you have no first hand knowledge of that match, it could be construed that you are saying he is lying. I think Roosterman also accused Keith of lying, although he didn't finish the post, that's the impression it left. So it works both ways.

IMO, this is a good thread. Lot's of good discussion. David and Keith both have great records. I'm sure there would be lots of interest in seeing either of these guys play in the future. I hope opportunities that will motivate them to do so come to pass.

 

[clint3612]

Not exactly.

I haven't read every post in the thread, but for the most part people are just expressing their opinions and experiences. When Huckster said he saw Parica win, with his own eyes, and you come back and say no, that is wrong, when you have no first hand knowledge of that match, it could be construed that you are saying he is lying. I think Roosterman also accused Keith of lying, although he didn't finish the post, that's the impression it left. So it works both ways.

IMO, this is a good thread. Lot's of good discussion. David and Keith both have great records. I'm sure there would be lots of interest in seeing either of these guys play in the future. I hope opportunities that will motivate them to do so come to pass.

I know your not flaming me, but I never insinuated Huckster was lying about Parica and David. I simply didn't believe Parica would beat David in Kansas 15 ahead. Plus, knowing what David said, lengthend my doubts on the Parica vs. Matlock story. Furthermore, I never said or thought Huckster was lying. I wouldn't ever think he would have to. Huckster has been around and staked more players than I've ever seen, so, I would never think he would intentionally lie. I just challenged the account.

 

[punter]

I know your not flaming me, but I never insinuated Huckster was lying about Parica and David. I simply didn't believe Parica would beat David in Kansas 15 ahead. Plus, knowing what David said, lengthend my doubts on the Parica vs. Matlock story. Furthermore, I never said or thought Huckster was lying. I wouldn't ever think he would have to. Huckster has been around and staked more players than I've ever seen, so, I would never think he would intentionally lie. I just challenged the account.

Fair enough.

 

[sixpack]

Well, Who is the Roosterman

If he wants to out himself he can. Not me.

I like this thread though and I'm grateful to him for starting it.

~rc

 

[hemicudas]

The original, "Rooster"

Just for the record. The good folks from TX lovingly dubbed, Jack "Jersey Red" Breit,,,,,,,,,,,Rooster or Red Rooster. Jack was one of the funniest guys on the planet and told the greatest war stories of them all. The, Rooster, handle stuck with people all over the south not just TX.

Baton Rouge's, own left handed red haired youngster, Jamie Farrell, was originally dubbed, Little Rooster, before the, Red Rifle, was laid on him for good.

Our, Roosterman, knew Jack Breit well and adopts his handle, I'm sure, with the greatest respect. It seems to me he has problems with players he does not know and refuses to show respect to. Obviously, he knows Dave Matlock. He mistakenly assumes Dave would have no problem with what he has posted here. David is a world class guy as well as player and I am sure had no idea, Roosterman, started this thread under his name. I believe David knows about the thread by now. That is probably the reason our, Roosterman, has not posted recently. He has been handed, yet another, "Talking To", by another, Class Guy, Dave Matlock, this time.

 

[JAM]

Ok guys, many of you have been really unfair to roosterman. I'll tell you why. First of all, he is merely setting some things straight. Not one has been derogatory to Keith or any other player or poster. There is almost a cult of personality ideology around here. It seems you can't simply challenge any top players opinions or stories. I happen to like Keith. How can you not, however, if I disagree with him, I should be able to state my opinion (with respect of course). I am not advocating any type rude and asinine behaviour to the players or even fellow posters.However, if we have an opinion, we should be able to speak it. That goes with any other posters here. I'm sure I'll be flamed for this comment but it needed to be said. Roosterman was told by a great source that Keith had problems with Eugene Browning at one time. I'm not sure of the score between them, it really doesn't matter. What does matter, is that a guy should't be neccesarily be flamed because he is sticking up for player that knows him well and wanted roosterman to state certain facts and clear up some incorrect stories. One thing roosteman can say is that he is close friends with David and he has matched up with Keith in Vegas and played David several times for the cash. In his opinion, he thinks David plays better. JAM would think Keith might be the better player, Jay Helfert may think keith plays better, Danny D. may have a penchant for Keith as well. What I'm saying is one should be able to speak their thoughts; if they are respectful without being practically thrown out of the forum. I do not want Keith to ever think I'm bashing him or any other good player. However, just because someone shoots straighter than me, I should't have to just shut my mouth either. So, my apologies to Keith, Jam, or anybody I might have offended. It has been mentioned or insinuated that roosterman doesn't have any class, I would have to disagree, he does right by pool players and treats people fairly, not to mention not bad damn player himself. You guys have to remember, ya'll jumped on him from the start!

You and your friend Roosterman both told Keith in this thread that what he said was either a lie or he must have his stories mixed up. You both discounted what Keith McCready relayed as the facts. Keith was there each and every time he played David Matlock. You and Roosterman were not.

When Keith came back and told YOU, Clint, that he was there and most definitely did not have his stories mixed up, to include how much money his stakehorse Dean from Atlanta paid Keith when Keith defeatd Matlock for $5,000 the SECOND time they played in Kentucky, the very next night in fact -- not the one and only time for $500 like you stated in this thread -- you do not even admit that what Keith is saying is true. You continue with this rampage of David Matlock has only been defeated one time in his life on a bar table, even when folks have come on this thread and provided you the truth. Give it up.

I know David Matlock, a nice, unassuming, and humble man, would not like this thread one bit. In fact, if you know David's phone number, please forward it to Keith via PM. He very much would like to speak to David. If you don't have it, I will contact Olathe pool room and have Keith leave a message for David to call him.

Keith has been beaten lots of times, as has David. I don't know of any pool player, world beater, or champion that can win all the time, losing only once in their life.

Nobody likes to lose. Most players, to include David, are at least truthful about it, accept defeat with dignity, and don't come on a pool forum like Clint and Roosterman have, stating things that are absolute falsehoods about Keith McCready and others.

Again, Keith was there, Clint and Roosterman, each time Keith competed with David. You weren't there every time Keith competed with David. End of story, I hope.

JAM

 

[Keith McCready]

He didn't spot Eugene Browning nothing he could'nt even beat him even.

First of all, me and Eugene Browning have played a few times. He caught me at a time in my life when I was in shambles, but each time I played Eugene, I had to spot him the 8 and 9. He never played me in my prime. If me and Eugene would have played in my prime, Eugene would have probably needed the 7 ball.

Just for your information, I let Eugene stay at my house over there in Nashville for about 6 months. He was broke, running around town, couldn't make no money. He screwed up a little bit, just like we all do sometimes when we hit rock bottom. Been there, done it, and so I know what it's all about.

Maybe you don't understand it all. The only thing you seem to be good at is trying to come on this forum and make another statement at me that is preposterous. You sort of need to know all the facts. Facts go a long way. So enjoy yourself and have a nice day. Can't wait to read your next post. LOL.

 

[jay helfert]

Ok guys, many of you have been really unfair to roosterman. I'll tell you why. First of all, he is merely setting some things straight. Not one has been derogatory to Keith or any other player or poster. There is almost a cult of personality ideology around here. It seems you can't simply challenge any top players opinions or stories. I happen to like Keith. How can you not, however, if I disagree with him, I should be able to state my opinion (with respect of course). I am not advocating any type rude and asinine behaviour to the players or even fellow posters.However, if we have an opinion, we should be able to speak it. That goes with any other posters here. I'm sure I'll be flamed for this comment but it needed to be said. Roosterman was told by a great source that Keith had problems with Eugene Browning at one time. I'm not sure of the score between them, it really doesn't matter. What does matter, is that a guy should't be neccesarily be flamed because he is sticking up for player that knows him well and wanted roosterman to state certain facts and clear up some incorrect stories. One thing roosteman can say is that he is close friends with David and he has matched up with Keith in Vegas and played David several times for the cash. In his opinion, he thinks David plays better. JAM would think Keith might be the better player, Jay Helfert may think keith plays better, Danny D. may have a penchant for Keith as well. What I'm saying is one should be able to speak their thoughts; if they are respectful without being practically thrown out of the forum. I do not want Keith to ever think I'm bashing him or any other good player. However, just because someone shoots straighter than me, I should't have to just shut my mouth either. So, my apologies to Keith, Jam, or anybody I might have offended. It has been mentioned or insinuated that roosterman doesn't have any class, I would have to disagree, he does right by pool players and treats people fairly, not to mention not bad damn player himself. You guys have to remember, ya'll jumped on him from the start!

If you quote me, please get it straight too. I NEVER said I thought Keith was a better player than David Matlock. In fact I put both of them together (along with Buddy) at the top of the food chain on bar tables.

 

[gpeezy]

If you quote me, please get it straight too. I NEVER said I thought Keith was a better player than David Matlock. In fact I put both of them together (along with Buddy) at the top of the food chain on bar tables.

At that speed its who gets better rolls that day.

 

[clint3612]

Ridiculous

You and your friend Roosterman both told Keith in this thread that what he said was either a lie or he must have his stories mixed up. You both discounted what Keith McCready relayed as the facts. Keith was there each and every time he played David Matlock. You and Roosterman were not.

When Keith came back and told YOU, Clint, that he was there and most definitely did not have his stories mixed up, to include how much money his stakehorse Dean from Atlanta paid Keith when Keith defeatd Matlock for $5,000 the SECOND time they played in Kentucky, the very next night in fact -- not the one and only time for $500 like you stated in this thread -- you do not even admit that what Keith is saying is true. You continue with this rampage of David Matlock has only been defeated one time in his life on a bar table, even when folks have come on this thread and provided you the truth. Give it up.

I know David Matlock, a nice, unassuming, and humble man, would not like this thread one bit. In fact, if you know David's phone number, please forward it to Keith via PM. He very much would like to speak to David. If you don't have it, I will contact Olathe pool room and have Keith leave a message for David to call him.

Keith has been beaten lots of times, as has David. I don't know of any pool player, world beater, or champion that can win all the time, losing only once in their life.

Nobody likes to lose. Most players, to include David, are at least truthful about it, accept defeat with dignity, and don't come on a pool forum like Clint and Roosterman have, stating things that are absolute falsehoods about Keith McCready and others.

Again, Keith was there, Clint and Roosterman, each time Keith competed with David. You weren't there every time Keith competed with David. End of story, I hope.

JAM

Ok, I was practically extending a olive branch on my behalf to the above mentioned parties; plus, putting a few cents in for my friend. Consequently, you and few others completely turned that post upside down. Again, I have the right to challenge someone's ideas and opinions. I'm sorry, If i want to believe David's stories as compared to Keith's, I will do so. I never ever once called Keith a liar. Simply, I was taking one word over another, furthermore, I have no regrets. Yes, I insinuated that Keith had his stories mixed up, big deal. Surely, he has been called worst by better people than me?? If someone questioned my details to story, I'm not going to get super mad about it, especially if that person has alternative and contradictory information. It's one's word over anothers. Call David, see what he says, you'll find that roosterman said what needed to be said and this thread will be soon be over. Because, roosterman simply relayed some messages. So, call it like you see it and I'll do the same. Do one thing, spare me the drama......

 

[clint3612]

If you quote me, please get it straight too. I NEVER said I thought Keith was a better player than David Matlock. In fact I put both of them together (along with Buddy) at the top of the food chain on bar tables.

First of all, I never quoted you in the first place. I was using you as an example, to make a very simple point. However, if you are going to quote me, you try to get it straight, and maybe we'll get along just fine.....

 

[jay helfert]

First of all, I never quoted you in the first place. I was using you as an example, to make a very simple point. However, if you are going to quote me, you try to get it straight, and maybe we'll get along just fine.....

In your previous post #261, you wrote "Jay Helfert may think Keith plays better". You did write this, didn't you? Once again I never said anything like that. Why would you use my name in an incorrect example? That's what I object to. If you are going to make something up, use your own name and not mine. Go find your own credibility. I had to earn mine.

 

[Fatboy]

In your previous post #261, you wrote "Jay Helfert may think Keith plays better". You did write this, didn't you? Once again I never said anything like that. Why would you use my name in an incorrect example? That's what I object to. If you are going to make something up, use your own name and not mine. Go find your own credibility. I had to earn mine.

thats a fact your credibility is 100%.

 

[jay helfert]

thats a fact your credibility is 100%.

I'll pay you that 20 I owe you next time I see you.

 

[hemicudas]

I'll pay you that 20 I owe you next time I see you.

Clint, why don't you have Roosterman's brother tell you how much credibility and respect, Jay Helfert, has? Then you might show him the respect he has earned over the years.

And no, Jay, doesn't owe me a dime.

 

[JAM]

Ok, I was practically extending a olive branch on my behalf to the above mentioned parties; plus, putting a few cents in for my friend. Consequently, you and few others completely turned that post upside down. Again, I have the right to challenge someone's ideas and opinions. I'm sorry, If i want to believe David's stories as compared to Keith's, I will do so. I never ever once called Keith a liar. Simply, I was taking one word over another, furthermore, I have no regrets. Yes, I insinuated that Keith had his stories mixed up, big deal. Surely, he has been called worst by better people than me?? If someone questioned my details to story, I'm not going to get super mad about it, especially if that person has alternative and contradictory information. It's one's word over anothers. Call David, see what he says, you'll find that roosterman said what needed to be said and this thread will be soon be over. Because, roosterman simply relayed some messages. So, call it like you see it and I'll do the same. Do one thing, spare me the drama......

There is nothing wrong with thinking one player is better than another player. Everybody has their own opinions about matters such as that.

You did write on this thread that Keith had his stories mixed up.

Keith came on this thread severals times, after Roosterman called him a "liar" and you told Keith he had his "stories mixed up," to provide the FACTS.

When confronted with the FACTS by someone who was there, you still wrote on this thread that you believe something different happened.

Keith McCready was not the only poster to this thread to let you know that your "rendition" of what happened was wrong.

You cannot seem to accept the fact that you are wrong.

And you are.

Please give David my kindest regards. I can't wait to talk to him.

JAM

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

Today Is A Day Of Rest

There is nothing wrong with thinking one player is better than another player. Everybody has their own opinions about matters such as that.

You did write on this thread that Keith had his stories mixed up.

Keith came on this thread severals times, after Roosterman called him a "liar" and you told Keith he had his "stories mixed up," to provide the FACTS.

When confronted with the FACTS by someone who was there, you still wrote on this thread that you believe something different happened.

Keith McCready was not the only poster to this thread to let you know that your "rendition" of what happened was wrong.

You cannot seem to accept the fact that you are wrong.

And you are.

Please give David my kindest regards. I can't wait to talk to him.

JAM

I just pray that Keith and JAM don't head for Texas gunning for roosterman or Dave Matlock;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63A__INJecI&feature=related

Doug
(yesterday, there were seven Spanish Olives in the bottom of my drinks)

 

[clint3612]

Ohhh my goodness..

In your previous post #261, you wrote "Jay Helfert may think Keith plays better". You did write this, didn't you? Once again I never said anything like that. Why would you use my name in an incorrect example? That's what I object to. If you are going to make something up, use your own name and not mine. Go find your own credibility. I had to earn mine.

Again, I was making a point. It was for the sake of an EXAMPLE!!! Fine, object to it. It's amazing how asinine this turned out to be. Trust me sweetie, I have plenty of credibility and it reaches way beyond the pool world. Since your from the west coast, I'm sure if i put a gun to your head you would pick Keith. Nevertheless, talk about credibility, I remember when roosterman and I wanted to put Tony Fargo against Jeaneete Lee in a all around and we were ready in Lexington. You were supposed to stake Jeanette Lee, what ever happend to that? If I remember i sent you a PM about it. The offer still stands. You want some of that???

 

[clint3612]

Let's do it..

There is nothing wrong with thinking one player is better than another player. Everybody has their own opinions about matters such as that.

You did write on this thread that Keith had his stories mixed up.

Keith came on this thread severals times, after Roosterman called him a "liar" and you told Keith he had his "stories mixed up," to provide the FACTS.

When confronted with the FACTS by someone who was there, you still wrote on this thread that you believe something different happened.

Keith McCready was not the only poster to this thread to let you know that your "rendition" of what happened was wrong.

You cannot seem to accept the fact that you are wrong.

And you are.

Please give David my kindest regards. I can't wait to talk to him.

JAM

Again, David says the stories are mixed up, and I believe him. Not trying to be a smart butt, however, roosterman and I will put our money where our mouth is. Let's match it up. Keith still makes it to the U.S. Open and the derby, so it is safe to say ,he still plays. David seems to only play small Mid-West tournaments. Lets give the players 4 weeks to prepare, we can post show money and lets put this to rest. Ya'll want to challenge us and call us names, so, lets put it up!!!