Mike Dechaine, one of the top players in Maine, might be willing to go along and show the guys his trick racking techniques.
Mosconi Cup Unpicked Players Bail Out
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I feel it is none of our friggin business why they are not going. If there is a problem, Mr Wilson will get on here and tell us what he wants us to know. Enough with the speculation. ...enough with the accusations....enough with the teenage girl gossip.....leave it alone. What the hell is wrong with some of you?
Oh, man, what a great way to start my day. That was so funny; I laughed out loud.
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Top notch professional pool promoting... wait here it comes http://youtu.be/qoethxOp5Kg
It makes zero sense to me how you could not know wether or not they had committed to go, yet still come on here and further ruin the reputation of professional pool players, essentially ruining the reputation of your own product. It is no secret there are a lot of simpletons here who form their opinion based solely on what you say and it would be nice if you had all the facts before you make a statement.
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The choice of wording to describe why the three did not want to go as "bail out" is wrong. They each have their personal reasons, and unless anybody here wants to spill the beans, it is nobody's business. I respect their choice to decide what is best for them personally. None of us know the whole story, I'm sure.
Let's barbecue Barry Behrman this week for choosing the Shertaon on the ocean front for next year's Open, $89 per room, or let's find out what Charlie Williams and Dragon have next on their agenda that will be offensive to the rest of the pool world. There's plenty of other fish to fry.
Let's barbecue Barry Behrman this week for choosing the Shertaon on the ocean front for next year's Open, $89 per room, or let's find out what Charlie Williams and Dragon have next on their agenda that will be offensive to the rest of the pool world. There's plenty of other fish to fry.
I find it difficult to condone on several levels the fact that these three players have decided not to go to Blackpool.
1. They were approached on whether they would go and continue as a solid TEAM and they agreed, Their presence in Blackpool would be valuable because it would have reinforced the team concept. There were genuine roles for them there. Sky Sports would have used them in guest commentary spots, off table features and as pundits. They would
also interact with the public. All these things giving worldwide exposure to both themselves, the US Team and the game.
But TEAM went out the window and they reverted to ME mode.
2 Mark, armed with their promise of solidarity persuaded Matchroom to pick up the tab for them. They would not do this unless they were convinced that it was a good idea,
3 They stood to pick up far more than any of them could earn for those 4/5 days.
The payment to the winning team is actually $32,000 and as the formula for sharing was decided when they were eight strong then it is not charity that they would receive (that's a lot of table recovering Big O).
4 This was an exercise in team building and Mark delivered but the players failed to understand the ethos of team spirit.
5 If they had any interest in the future of the game then why would they not want to be there?
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Team.
That's supposed to mean something.
There should be a pretty good reason to 'not' follow through on a plan that might affect 'the team'.
Don't make a commitment if you can't follow through. (Assuming a commitment was made or understood).
Plus - you are only as good as your word. I know that this is the kind of thing I would remember.
This is not an opportunity to bash pool - this is the chance to explain that personal gain is not the criteria when 'team' is involved.
Mark Griffin
Team.
That's supposed to mean something.
There should be a pretty good reason to 'not' follow through on a plan that might affect 'the team'.
Don't make a commitment if you can't follow through. (Assuming a commitment was made or understood).
Plus - you are only as good as your word. I know that this is the kind of thing I would remember.
This is not an opportunity to bash pool - this is the chance to explain that personal gain is not the criteria when 'team' is involved.
Mark Griffin
But you don't know if they agreed to go if they were not chosen. At least wait until you know more.
Well it is good that they bail out so the 5 can focus and not get distracted by unnecessary emotional stuff /friction that may crop up. No hassles and no drama mama.
Losing team gets $10K per player so $50K for team
If the 3 big fancy titled coaches get 10% then $5K divide by 3 so about $1.7K each
I am guessing the other 2 vice captains would get maybe 10% so balance 80% for the 5 players +MW? So $40K divide by 6= $6.7K each
If they do not have to share with the 3 titled coaches and 2 vice captains then $50K divide by 6= $8.3K so they would get $1.6K more without the 3 coaches and 2 vice captains
Not a lot for someone like Shane but maybe more for the others
Geez, a case of pot calling kettle black. Muahahaha
Agreed....Or....maybe Mark Wilson or Matchroom had a confab with the 3, and decided it wasn't a good financial decision to have them go? Nobody knows. And until Mr Wilson wants us to know, stop the witch hunt.
After reading your words of wisdom, Doug, I now have changed my opinion.
I agree with you that the three should have followed through. I had not known some of what you have written, but now that I do, you're right. As usual, of course.
They each did travel to the Navy SEALs as a team-building exercise. I'm sure money was expended to do this operation on their behalf.
The pros did the same thing to Greg Sullivan's Southern Classic as well as the Ultimate 10-Ball Classic in Tunica, the results of which is now these two lucrative pool events won't happen again. Bonus Ball and the pros' decision to not attend these events hurt American pool permanently, sad to say. Greg Sullivan, in particular, after all the benefits and freebies he's given to all pros, both American and international, at his events was really crushed that they the BB pros turned their back on him. No loyalty there whatsoever.
Maybe this will be the last year for Mosconi Cup and Team USA. I wouldn't blame Matchroom Sport one bit, either, after all they have invested in Team USA this year to help them be successful. If the American players don't give a damn, why should Matchrom give a damn in the future?
This should have been the motto for Team USA: Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno. Unfortunately, instead, it's every man for himself.
Badhi Nazjat, the promoter of the Ultimate 10-Ball Championship, decided he would not invest any more money into pool after the pros showed their allegiance to the Bonus Ball instead of his tournament. Check out the website for Ultimate 10-Ball Championship now ---> Ultimate10-Ball.com.
Check out the website for the 2015 Mosconi Cup, which was just released ---> HERE. :frown:
Thank you, Matchroom, for the great memories. I enjoyed the ride.
Check out the website for the 2015 Mosconi Cup, which was just released ---> HERE. :frown:
Thank you, Matchroom, for the great memories. I enjoyed the ride.
Jam. I'm cheering for England.
Just cause I have Union Jack pillow cases.
And, I am eating Kippers for breakfast.
Just cause I have Union Jack pillow cases.
And, I am eating Kippers for breakfast.
Good for you! I will send you some mushy peas to go with your Kippers. Bon appétit.
It's hard to support Team USA, but it has nothing to do with Mark Wilson's efforts. He should be commended for all he's done to try to make something good happen.
If the American pros don't care, I guess I don't, either. I will enjoy the Mosconi Cup show, however.
I love you, Brandon, but I'm really disappointed.
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AFAIK Mark Griffin has nothing to do with the MC.
Why should he know if the players committed to go or not?
Get off your peddle stool! This thread is a damp squid! :wink:
This thread Is awful!
The players won't go or do what you want and so begins the smear campaign! The original poster has yet to apologize! The original poster may have thought this thread and public opinion could pressure them to go. There may still be a chance for this to happen and thus the PR Media relations push we are engaged in.
To my knowledge the players were under the impression this would be a merit based selection process! That process was contingent on their participation. Absent that, who can say they are obligated to do anything???
The players were never told they would have to pretend to be coaches and staff if they did not make the squad! A lot of the quote fine print was never disclosed to them and made up as they went. Crucifying them in this way is wrong!
For the above reasons the critics of these three young men should be ashamed. What makes it even worse is the hear say insinuating "they gave their word", oddly enough, something that can't be confirmed or denied!
But, hey you can't out run the "AZB Lynch Mob"
Kd
The players won't go or do what you want and so begins the smear campaign! The original poster has yet to apologize! The original poster may have thought this thread and public opinion could pressure them to go. There may still be a chance for this to happen and thus the PR Media relations push we are engaged in.
To my knowledge the players were under the impression this would be a merit based selection process! That process was contingent on their participation. Absent that, who can say they are obligated to do anything???
The players were never told they would have to pretend to be coaches and staff if they did not make the squad! A lot of the quote fine print was never disclosed to them and made up as they went. Crucifying them in this way is wrong!
For the above reasons the critics of these three young men should be ashamed. What makes it even worse is the hear say insinuating "they gave their word", oddly enough, something that can't be confirmed or denied!
But, hey you can't out run the "AZB Lynch Mob"
Kd
I'm just wondering if there could be more to this story? Never know until you have the facts.But oh well...speculate on. John B.
Not sure what the point is for the other guys to be there with pom-poms in hand. 