Poll- All-around....John Schmidt vs Alex Pagulayan

All-around....John Schmidt vs Alex Pagulayan

  • John Schmidt

    Votes: 50 23.8%
  • Alex Pagulayan

    Votes: 160 76.2%

  • Total voters
    210
ok i cant win with you patrick.
im off to craigslist take care and you still got the beer coming .

It's not about winning or losing John. I'm just stating my opinions. Like I said earlier in this thread, if someone accepts your challenge and you pick something other than 14.1 I will be the first to admit I was wrong and I'll apologize. I just don't see it happening because you are a favorite over, almost, anyone in the world playing 14.1 due to being one of the very very few people to take it seriously in this day.
 
It's not about winning or losing John. I'm just stating my opinions. Like I said earlier in this thread, if someone accepts your challenge and you pick something other than 14.1 I will be the first to admit I was wrong and I'll apologize. I just don't see it happening because you are a favorite over, almost, anyone in the world playing 14.1 due to being one of the very very few people to take it seriously in this day.

its hard to bel how good he is at that game being that were he has lived not many people play it.
 
I'm surprised not more gamblers focus on 14.1 being the game of choice. There's literally no luck involved and the best player always wins (and is also easy to handicap). First guy to make 100 (or 150) balls wins - end of story. Unlike in 10 ball where you might run out perfectly to the 8 or 9 ball, get bad on it -- and lose. That doesn't make the other guy a better player.

If you run 100 in 14.1 and miss--- the other guy is on zero... like it should be. Just my humble opinion.
 
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I'm surprised not more gamblers focus on 14.1 being the game of choice. There's literally no luck involved and the best player always wins (and is also easy to handicap). First guy to make 100 (or 150) balls wins - end of story. Unlike in 10 ball where you might run out perfectly to the 8 or 9 ball, get bad on it -- and lose. That doesn't make the other guy a better player.

If you run 100 in 14.1 and miss--- the other guy is on zero... like it should be. Just my humble opinion.

there is no luck in banks.
we should play call pocket in 10 ball.
 
Why does John get damned for being ahead of everyone in straight pool? So since he is touted as better than everyone else, he should never get to play that game? And if he does want to play, he is a not a gambler?

All this doesn't make sense. The top 10 players on your list are all certainly great players with great pool skills. Seems to me that if they liked money, they would practice straight pool and then beat John out of $100K and his motorcycle.
 
Why does John get damned for being ahead of everyone in straight pool? So since he is touted as better than everyone else, he should never get to play that game? And if he does want to play, he is a not a gambler?

All this doesn't make sense. The top 10 players on your list are all certainly great players with great pool skills. Seems to me that if they liked money, they would practice straight pool and then beat John out of $100K and his motorcycle.

for me i never took up 14.1 cause i like to gamble at pool.
the guys who play 14.1 for the most part dont gamble.
 
Where's quinten hann????

Why does John get damned for being ahead of everyone in straight pool? So since he is touted as better than everyone else, he should never get to play that game? And if he does want to play, he is a not a gambler?

All this doesn't make sense. The top 10 players on your list are all certainly great players with great pool skills. Seems to me that if they liked money, they would practice straight pool and then beat John out of $100K and his motorcycle.

I thought that quinten hann could practice 14.1 for a couple of weeks and beat John...

If John would play him for 100K and his motorcycle, shouldn't that make it worth his while to come to the states???

So where is Quinten Hann???

Jaden
 
for me i never took up 14.1 cause i like to gamble at pool.
the guys who play 14.1 for the most part dont gamble.

So let's see - you can play your buddy Jon Hennessey and get mentally tortured along with losing your money......or you can go to a pool tournament with advertised added money only to find out that either you won't get paid at all or the money added isn't really all added....or you can spend 4 months practicing straight pool, call up JS and tell him you will play him a set of 10 ball and a set of straight pool (hell you can probably can a spot the first time out), play for some serious cash and play a gentleman, beat him at both games, adjust beat him some more and then spend another 4 months sitting on the beach, riding up and down on the boardwalk on John's motorcycle.
 
Considering each set is a fairly long race, I would say Alex takes it down. John is a great player but I think Alex is a little too sharp a knife for John's kitchen. Shorter races it would level out considerably.
 
So let's see - you can play your buddy Jon Hennessey and get mentally tortured along with losing your money......or you can go to a pool tournament with advertised added money only to find out that either you won't get paid at all or the money added isn't really all added....or you can spend 4 months practicing straight pool, call up JS and tell him you will play him a set of 10 ball and a set of straight pool (hell you can probably can a spot the first time out), play for some serious cash and play a gentleman, beat him at both games, adjust beat him some more and then spend another 4 months sitting on the beach, riding up and down on the boardwalk on John's motorcycle.

hahahhahh
first i cant beat john at 10 ball.
so i think 14.1 i will be in real trouble.
you want to back me ill prac 14.1 lol hheheehhehheh
 
hi

It's not about winning or losing John. I'm just stating my opinions. Like I said earlier in this thread, if someone accepts your challenge and you pick something other than 14.1 I will be the first to admit I was wrong and I'll apologize. I just don't see it happening because you are a favorite over, almost, anyone in the world playing 14.1 due to being one of the very very few people to take it seriously in this day.

i take pride in the fact that guys like sigel,varner,souquet,martin,robles,harriman etc etc who do take 14.1 seriously and some have played 30 years of it have not run in the 400s. i know thats just practice so it doesnt mean much but trust me if sigel and varner havent run over 400 and they practiced it 20 years, then i feel i play the game decent for the fact ive played it part time and hardly ever been around a loose great playing table too see how many i could do.
actually if i practice, its mostly one pocket ghost or 10ball or 14.1 i spread it around.

in the last 5 years ive spent more time on the golf course,motorcycle,traveling,fishing ,working on house,etc then practicing pool. people think i get up and play 14.1 for 8 hours a day on a loose table,trust me if that was the case and i only had 2 runs in the 400s i would be disapointed.


ill play everybody on your list 1hole.larry being the toughest.ill play everybody on your list all around again larry probably being the toughest.

im not saying i want to play them as many are my pals im just saying they all know i would play them all around if push came to shove.
 
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hahahhahh
first i cant beat john at 10 ball.
so i think 14.1 i will be in real trouble.
you want to back me ill prac 14.1 lol hheheehhehheh

I'm sure you two could match it up somehow - then I'll take a piece. I like to bet on guys that bet their own.

And your comment about you never took up 14.1 because you like to gamble at pool - the internet detectives have posted all of your action the past 6 months so I don't think I have missed any. Seems like you are getting very few games (Hennessey I & Hennessey II) at the other pool games that you have put your efforts into.
 
I'm sure you two could match it up somehow - then I'll take a piece. I like to bet on guys that bet their own.

And your comment about you never took up 14.1 because you like to gamble at pool - the internet detectives have posted all of your action the past 6 months so I don't think I have missed any. Seems like you are getting very few games (Hennessey I & Hennessey II) at the other pool games that you have put your efforts into.

true now days i dont get much action but who does?
14.1 wont be on my list .
i do want to play one pocket which i dont.
 
ok i cant win with you patrick.
im off to craigslist take care and you still got the beer coming .

what you think of this.
all around me and you.
10 ball i get the last 2.
banks even.
one pocket i get 9 to 7.
i think the games are fair we could play at dcc.
let me know what you think of this offer.
 
what you think of this.
all around me and you.
10 ball i get the last 2.
banks even.
one pocket i get 9 to 7.
i think the games are fair we could play at dcc.
let me know what you think of this offer.

like you said im done playing people i cant stand .
that give you no respect when playing.
 
i take pride in the fact that guys like sigel,varner,souquet,martin,robles,harriman etc etc who do take 14.1 seriously and some have played 30 years of it have not run in the 400s. i know thats just practice so it doesnt mean much but trust me if sigel and varner havent run over 400 and they practiced it 20 years, then i feel i play the game decent for the fact ive played it part time and hardly ever been around a loose great playing table too see how many i could do.
actually if i practice, its mostly one pocket ghost or 10ball or 14.1 i spread it around.

in the last 5 years ive spent more time on the golf course,motorcycle,traveling,fishing ,working on house,etc then practicing pool. people think i get up and play 14.1 for 8 hours a day on a loose table,trust me if that was the case and i only had 2 runs in the 400s i would be disapointed.


ill play everybody on your list 1hole.larry being the toughest.ill play everybody on your list all around again larry probably being the toughest.

im not saying i want to play them as many are my pals im just saying they all know i would play them all around if push came to shove.

John, you're a great 14.1 player. One of the best in the world. Nothing I've said is meant to take away from that and I hope you didn't take anything that way. I just feel that 14.1 is only a practice game these days and you trying to find action in it is just not realistic.

I put that list out because I'm curious as to what games you would select for each player if they accepted your challenge. I don't see how you could select anything but 14.1 against anyone on that list. Sure you could have close games at one-pocket and 10-ball with everyone on that list, but you're the favorite playing 14.1 so why would you pick anything else?
 
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