Poop happens....

What's wrong with a lag bolt? As long as it's fit correctly & centered, I don't see why it wouldn't be as good as a flat thread 3/8-10 or 3/8-11 joinery bolt. The cue broke because of the handle getting ultra thin at the "A" joint, not because it had a lag screw. It would have broken like this no matter if it had a lag screw or a radial pin.

With all that said, 3/8-10 threaded rod is cheap enough to not have to resort to using lag screws and should have just as aggressive of a hold.
 
qbilder said:
What's wrong with a lag bolt? As long as it's fit correctly & centered, I don't see why it wouldn't be as good as a flat thread 3/8-10 or 3/8-11 joinery bolt. .
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I don't know if they make taps for them.
They create their own threads.
That equals to joint stress to me.
 
qbilder said:
What's wrong with a lag bolt? As long as it's fit correctly & centered, I don't see why it wouldn't be as good as a flat thread 3/8-10 or 3/8-11 joinery bolt. The cue broke because of the handle getting ultra thin at the "A" joint, not because it had a lag screw. It would have broken like this no matter if it had a lag screw or a radial pin.

With all that said, 3/8-10 threaded rod is cheap enough to not have to resort to using lag screws and should have just as aggressive of a hold.
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The bolt was actually centered in the tenon. True, the cue broke because of the thin handle and only because of my actions. The cue would have lead a normal productive life had I not broke it. I reassembled it using a brass 3/8-10.
 
I learned from this mistake and most of the ones I've made in the past. I just try to not make the same one twice.
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Well said fellow, mistakes are next to learning.

I understand your situation, this is an accident. We all want to do our best. Still lucky when that happens it does not damage also the forearm.
Looking forward for the final pics. I'm sure the cute girl will be happy on her arrow.;)
 
JoeyInCali said:
I don't know if they make taps for them.
They create their own threads.
That equals to joint stress to me.
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Actually, there are taps for them. I know of one builder who has a tap for a 3/8" lag bolt. The minor is smaller than the typical .308-.312 we use on flat thread joint pins, but the count is something similar to a radial, like 8tpi or something.

I agree, using it to cut it's own threads wouldn't be too bright. Works with pine & cedar, but prolly not so well on hard stuff. However, I assume if you were to grind flats on opposite sides, it could act as it's own tap & would probably work very well for jointing.
 
Ouch is right, glad to hear no one was hurt. From a beginners point of view, I certainly appreciate learning from others mistakes. Hardware issues aside, is there something that you could have done differently to prevent it from happening? I hope you don't mind my asking, I'm interested in learning what bits I can. Thanks.
 
Monk Slayer said:
Ouch is right, glad to hear no one was hurt. From a beginners point of view, I certainly appreciate learning from others mistakes. Hardware issues aside, is there something that you could have done differently to prevent it from happening? I hope you don't mind my asking, I'm interested in learning what bits I can. Thanks.
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Honestly, I'm not sure how it happened. It was soooo fast. One second I am cutting on the wrap channel and the next it came out of the tailstock center and snapped. It could have been avoided had I not looked away for that second or two. Maybe it pushed into the chuck a little. I did have a soft grip with a collet. Still, happened fast but I could have shut it down when I saw it move. Since this is my full time job, I have no problems talking and working at the same time....as long as my eyes are on the prize. My mistake was looking away.
 
ratcues said:
Honestly, I'm not sure how it happened. It was soooo fast. One second I am cutting on the wrap channel and the next it came out of the tailstock center and snapped. It could have been avoided had I not looked away for that second or two. Maybe it pushed into the chuck a little. I did have a soft grip with a collet. Still, happened fast but I could have shut it down when I saw it move. Since this is my full time job, I have no problems talking and working at the same time....as long as my eyes are on the prize. My mistake was looking away.
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I don't know of one person who hasn't had something go wrong at a tourney. We're human.
 
Its all done and will ship out today.

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Top-shelf repair Buddy.
Problem is, the cue looks so good now that the owner may not want to play it for fear of putting a mark on it.

Your work is awesome. It gives the rest of us something to shoot for.
Keep it up and you won't have time to sleep.
 
I have no idea how that is possible but I have a cue split at the forearm I think I'd like to send you. PM me a way to get a hold of you and I will take some pics and try to email them to you and you can tell me whether its salvageable or not.
 
Here's a little update on this repair. The owner received the cue and felt that the pink wrap does not match the pink in the veneers. No questions asked, I had her send it back, I'll restain the wrap, and ship it back. All for no charge. I will post pics of the "new" wrap when I get it done.
 
well done, Good job. The color combination and hope the leather that will installed really matches to the gender of the owner.."The Cute Girl"
I'm pretty sure she's happy on the result of this cue..
Kudos to the maker...

Al
 
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Whoa ryan!!

ratcues said:
Here's a little update on this repair. The owner received the cue and felt that the pink wrap does not match the pink in the veneers. No questions asked, I had her send it back, I'll restain the wrap, and ship it back. All for no charge. I will post pics of the "new" wrap when I get it done.
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To hell with pics of the cue lets see the cute girl!
 
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