Not if you never lose!
Quitting while you are ahead
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Not if you never lose!
If a fair time limit is set and agreed, cool. You have to work tomorrow, I have to work tomorrow, cool. But don't be a nit and tell me that you have to quit in 20 minutes when we have been playing for hours.
If you have no where to go and are just ducking out winner, or to protect what your up, you're a nit..... That's the biggest thing I hate about nits! They're afraid to take off scores.... The biggest scores I have taken off were because I was willing to play someone up to 40 hours and wouldn't dare quit winner. I only ever quit one guy winner. I had a slight head cold when we started and after 35-36 hours had full blown flu with a severe sinus infection and was about to literally collapse. Even when I quit (up 1500-1700) I offered to leave the money up and make an appointment to play later. He paid it off but at least I gave him the option not to right then.
If you have no where to go and are just ducking out winner, or to protect what your up, you're a nit..... That's the biggest thing I hate about nits! They're afraid to take off scores.... The biggest scores I have taken off were because I was willing to play someone up to 40 hours and wouldn't dare quit winner. I only ever quit one guy winner. I had a slight head cold when we started and after 35-36 hours had full blown flu with a severe sinus infection and was about to literally collapse. Even when I quit (up 1500-1700) I offered to leave the money up and make an appointment to play later. He paid it off but at least I gave him the option not to right then.
It really should be up to both players to outline what they expect. Honestly, if your expecting 5-10 hour session you really should make that clear at the beginning.
If no one makes any stipulations at the beginning, I think either player is free to quit when they want.
If someone expects me to play all afternoon and evening, their dreaming. I'm usually good for 2-3 hours tops.
If no one makes any stipulations at the beginning, I think either player is free to quit when they want.
If someone expects me to play all afternoon and evening, their dreaming. I'm usually good for 2-3 hours tops.
not meaning to offend the poster or anyone else for that matter........i just think discussions like the one in this thread are a JOKE!....if you want to 'gamble' then do just that!.....if you win it's your choice to walk away with the 'prize' and if you loose then suck it up!....maybe then the next time someone wants to play ya you'll either practice more so you have a better chance to beat them or ask for the right spot to make your chances better.......if you're prepared to gamble......be prepared to LOOSE it's that simple......
skins ----------------- to gamble or not to gamble, that is the question......
skins ----------------- to gamble or not to gamble, that is the question......
You're cool and all but this is the dumbest thing I ever heard of. The guy gives you HOURS of action, he even warns you that he has to quit (soon, but not so soon there isn't time for a couple more racks)... and he's STILL a nit?
And he's a nit for wanting to protect his money lead?
What's the f$%^ing point of playing then?
Basically, if you gamble and win in any way (unless you played for a week straight against a guy who was willing to empty his bank account and sell his car) you are apparently a complete and hopeless nit.
You sound like good action saw, you're so scared of people thinking you're a nit you will play until you've donated all their money back.
The only real answer I can give here is 'It depends'.
If you are playing a set for money, you win, and then decided to high-tail it outta there with your big score, then I can understand why some people might object.
However, if you give your opponent some kind of heads up like 'Hey! I only have time for 2/3/4/whatever sets" then he has no reason to gripe if he walks away a loser.
There was an older guy I used to play with a lot. We'd do cheap sets. Races to 5 or 7 for $20. No one got hurt and everything remained friendly. And I'd tell him every single time, "Ken, I'm only here until 5pm and then I gotta pick up the wife". And he agreed. And yet every time I'd get up on him, as the hour approached, I'd have to quit him. I could be up $20 or $100 and if the set ended at 4:30 or 4:45, I'd tell him straight up... "Ken. There's no way we're gonna get another set in in 30 minutes." (Ken played slow as HELL!)
Needless to say, each and every time I was met with the same response... "Well you gotta give me a chance to win my money back!"
To which I would say rather plainly, "I did Ken. And all you did was lose more of it."
"Well, how about we don 1 last one double or nothing?"
"Why? So you can win back in 30 minutes what it took me 3 hours to win? No thanks."
As long as you let your opponent know your schedule, I don't see any problem with quitting winner. And that whole 1 set double or nothing thing should never be looked at as an obligation.
In a perfect world maybe. But what you're talking about just isn't reality in poolhalls today.
People lose and they ALWAYS expect a chance to break even.
I'm with you. Gambling by definition should lead one to believe that they should expect NOTHING. But that just isn't the case these days.
Not true.....the majority of gambling sessions are over when the loser quits because he's either lost all he plans to lose or he is out of money.....
Example.....a guys been woofing at me for a gambling session for a while, we go over all kinds of sets.....finally we just agree to keep it simple and run $5 a game (yeah, I am cheap
)....If he wins the first 8 games in 25 minutes while my cue is waking up, then I win 3 games in a row and he pulls up winner, he's a nit....a cheap one at that...he'll get zero action and zero respect from me....
If I battle with someone for 3 hours at $5 a game, he's up $100, and states that he's got an hour left.....after that hour, he's still up $100, I pay up, he kept his end.....he beat me and he deserves that $100.....if he's smart, he'll ask me when I want to play again, because now he knows not only can he beat me, but I pay up.....
I think most people who gamble just want an honest chance to win....they don't mind losing....the don't mind paying.....but quitting after just one quick set or a few short games isn't sporting.....
Okay. You have firmly established that you're a nit..... Congrats!
Oh, and I'm not scared of people thinking I'm a nit. Ever see how Bartram rolls gambling wise? I'm from the same school, I just don't play as good. No nits in the circle I'm in.
If a guy all of a suddden says he has to quit in 20 minutes after you have been playing for several hours, he most likely knew 2 or 3 hours ago that he had to leave at that specific time. If he announced that he has to quit in 2 hours, fine. When he suddenly announces that he has to leave in 10 or 20 minutes he is scared and wants to run with the money, that's nitty..... Now if your playing REAL cheap it doesn't matter really but if your betting real money, it's real nitty.
There is nothing more satisfying in pool than beating someone until THEY say uncle.....
Here's one for you. This guy in the APA was talking about how I was overrated by everyone. I hear him say it. I offered him the four and the break for $20. He wins the first three, I win three, he quits. Twenty to thirty minutes? Sorry, that's nitty. When you instigated the action by running your mouth, I offer the nuts, I begin to outrun the nuts, you quit even. Nitty.
funny thing . . .
I have known a handful of people that made their living gambling, year in, year out. They were in action every day of their lives. Every one of them would be defined as nits by the standards of most of the people posting into the threads on this forum.
Nits: Stay in action, bring home the cash. It is just a matter of time.
Good Action: Stay in action, go home busted. It is just a matter of time if you match up halfway fairly. If you aren't matching up fairly you aren't good action.(see Nits)
Seems to me that I would rather be a nit. The folks that some call "good action" are called fish or people who are mad at their money by people who make their living gambling.
I'd also bet my bankroll that many people fussing about nits are nits themselves when betting big!
Hu
I have known a handful of people that made their living gambling, year in, year out. They were in action every day of their lives. Every one of them would be defined as nits by the standards of most of the people posting into the threads on this forum.
Nits: Stay in action, bring home the cash. It is just a matter of time.
Good Action: Stay in action, go home busted. It is just a matter of time if you match up halfway fairly. If you aren't matching up fairly you aren't good action.(see Nits)
Seems to me that I would rather be a nit. The folks that some call "good action" are called fish or people who are mad at their money by people who make their living gambling.
I'd also bet my bankroll that many people fussing about nits are nits themselves when betting big!
Hu
I'm a nit I guess. I will always tell someone if I need to quit at a certain time before we start to play. If I'm going to play someone I don't know, I say "I'll TRY you for a few games. If I'm getting beat badly after a few games I will pull up. I played pool for the money not the title of "He's good action" Johnnyt
If you don't have a set agreement of 1 set only or that either can quit at either time,it's just wrong...period....does not show gambling etiquette
unless you actually get a emergency phone call that something has happened that needs your attention.
unless you actually get a emergency phone call that something has happened that needs your attention.
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Here's one you can appreciate Craw.... A guy asks me to play some 9ball, I tell him I will play some cheap 10/game or 50/set. I bow down and play 20/set. Lose the first three sets (if the game is even for 50 I need the 8ball for 20, lol)... Ask him to bet 50 and he does without hesitation. I win for the 50 and pick up the coin to flip for the next. Guy says "I'll race you to three for the difference." I said "Did you really just ask me to go from betting 50 to play a race to 3 for 10?!?!?! I haven't played a race to three for 10 since the first week I started playing pool!" Now that's nitty!
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Wow, he must hang out with my "four and the break" guy.
I agree. Quitting ahead, right or wrong, is nothing close to being a welcher/liar/stiffer.
BVal