So I picked this cue up the other day in a pawn shop and from a previous story I read I knew its at least fairly rare. Its called The Olympian and is one of the "towers collection". I am curious of everybodies thoughts on this cue and maybe some more information about it and if someone gives me a reasonable offer I must might sell it. I looked it up in the blue book so I have a base price but I know thats not the price I will get. About the cue, its straight as an arrow, not a single ding or scratch on it, it has the original shaft also straight and it has an old ferrule on it i cant remember what its made out of but i think it starts with an M and its not cheap plastic or ivory( i dont think). so here are some pics of the cue and any and all comments or purchase offers are welcome but dont bother sending an offer thats just ridiculous i dont HAVE to sell this cue and dont feel like reading stupid offers.
rare meucci?
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a couple more things i forgot to add is the black is ebony and all of the white inlays are ivory on the cue
no its not what? i was quoting the blue book of pool cues...just incase you were wondering where i got my info
ok so i found this cue online finally and this is what it says...btw ken you are right so im sorry...but anyway here it is Forearm: Birdseye maple covered with black plastic with four ivory colored columns with intricate scrimshawed lines. Also long red veneer lines with brass encased red veneer flames on top.
Wrap: Urethane coated white Irish linen. Uncoated wrap available on request.
Sleeve: Ivory colored white plastic butt sleeve with inlaid pearlized plastic ovals set in cocobolo circles with veneer circles and diamonds. and i actually have the original red dot shaft for it. according to this site the cue brand new is almost 1200 and the blue book says at 95% condition which this cue definatly is...is $1000
Wrap: Urethane coated white Irish linen. Uncoated wrap available on request.
Sleeve: Ivory colored white plastic butt sleeve with inlaid pearlized plastic ovals set in cocobolo circles with veneer circles and diamonds. and i actually have the original red dot shaft for it. according to this site the cue brand new is almost 1200 and the blue book says at 95% condition which this cue definatly is...is $1000
Just my opinion!!
Here's a free bump for you and my opinion..(Which is worth absolutely $.0) You have a nice cue there and although the Blue book is a nice guide to have, it is in no way an accurate reflection of the real market..(Especially today's market)..It has been my experience that you can take just about any cue..(Except the real High-enders) and cut whatever the Blue Book says in half..That's about what you will get for your cue...and that's in a good market..Good luck with your sale..You have a great find there, and it is certainly within your right to ask whatever you want for it..
Here's a free bump for you and my opinion..(Which is worth absolutely $.0) You have a nice cue there and although the Blue book is a nice guide to have, it is in no way an accurate reflection of the real market..(Especially today's market)..It has been my experience that you can take just about any cue..(Except the real High-enders) and cut whatever the Blue Book says in half..That's about what you will get for your cue...and that's in a good market..Good luck with your sale..You have a great find there, and it is certainly within your right to ask whatever you want for it..
I posted in the main forum to your thread, I buy and sell enough cues to know. It would be from 300-400 with the right buyer who is looking for it, the economy sucks so its a buyers market and not a sellers for sure. I am seeing custom cues with 2 shafts going for under 500 which 3-4 years back would have went for 800-900. Oh and BTW, the blue book IMO is not really going to give you the right price on your cue, a really rough idea maybe, but it is a good resource to find out info on the cue such as materials and year made, etc..
apparently i have to repeat myself about the blue book like i said i just used it for info and have a base price but know i will not get that much for it...i also said i do not HAVE to sell this cue im just getting opinions i never said im asking any price so i dont know why you are all saying im asking too much im not asking anything
As a rule of thumb for production cues take the retail price subtract 50% and that will give you an idea of the highest price you will probably ever get for it from someone other than a total noob.
I say this because damn near everyone knows someone who can buy most production cues at wholesale. Besides dealers never sell at retail anyway. So any retail price is basically just a number for dealers to start discounting at. Plus there are a blue million of just about any model out there floating around already so it's not hard to find one used. You probably know all this but I am feeling verbose this morning.
Old Meucci's in great shape do have a collector value to certain people. Your cue is not one of those. Hopefully you bought it right.
It would shock me if this brought more than $400-$500 if you were able to sell it here. Thats not to say there isn't someone out there that would pay more you just have to find them.
I say this because damn near everyone knows someone who can buy most production cues at wholesale. Besides dealers never sell at retail anyway. So any retail price is basically just a number for dealers to start discounting at. Plus there are a blue million of just about any model out there floating around already so it's not hard to find one used. You probably know all this but I am feeling verbose this morning.
Old Meucci's in great shape do have a collector value to certain people. Your cue is not one of those. Hopefully you bought it right.
It would shock me if this brought more than $400-$500 if you were able to sell it here. Thats not to say there isn't someone out there that would pay more you just have to find them.
Meucci 97-31 Olympian...retail $1200 brand new
Realistic resale for a used Olympian in excellent condition, straight, no nicks, dings, etc and a full shaft would be around $450-700.
The market is soft, but Meucci cues like this do real well on Ebay, usually.
The key is condition..can't really tell what the condition of the cue is from your pix.
It is one of my favorite Meucci cues...best of luck with it.
Joe
Realistic resale for a used Olympian in excellent condition, straight, no nicks, dings, etc and a full shaft would be around $450-700.
The market is soft, but Meucci cues like this do real well on Ebay, usually.
The key is condition..can't really tell what the condition of the cue is from your pix.
It is one of my favorite Meucci cues...best of luck with it.
Joe
moderation
why do we keep hearing all the razzing of the adds on this site.......all the negativity..... if people are not interested in a cue unless it is stolen or someting like that people should keep their opinions on the cues and post to them selves or pm the poster... Is it not against the rules to keep doing so ... where r the moderators? or do they just moderate the ones they agree with?
why do we keep hearing all the razzing of the adds on this site.......all the negativity..... if people are not interested in a cue unless it is stolen or someting like that people should keep their opinions on the cues and post to them selves or pm the poster... Is it not against the rules to keep doing so ... where r the moderators? or do they just moderate the ones they agree with?
you could have helped the guy out a little more. it is possible he's new and doesn't know what he has.
I agree that people stepping on for sale threads is bad form. This thread was asking for information about the cue and if it was a rare meucci.It even says so in the thread title.
The gentleman said he was considering selling it and seemed to me at least to not know exactly what he had and what the current market prices are for cues of this type. He received some honest and straight forward information from some people who have experience in the field.
If the information is not what he expected or wanted to hear then that is just the risk you take when ask for input on an open forum. No one said he should price it a certain way. They just said what in their experience the cues sell for. Which based on my interpretation of the initial post is part of of the information he was looking for.
You are very correct. The BB is great for info on cue makers but is not accurate on lots of things. For instance, the amount of cues made per year is way off on lots of the makers featured in the book. Also some of the prices are actually low when it comes to the lower end customs of some makers.
This is good information from Joe, who has had a lot of experience buying and selling . I agree. The usual price range tends to be $500 - $600.
Chris
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In that case...you are in the wrong forum! This is the wanted/for sale forum. Maybe you could move this to the "I don't know what I want to do" forum!
Perhaps your right, but when someone states a cue is all ebony and ivory and it is not, obviously, I will try to help out BUYERS not the guy that is spouting misinformation.
Frankly, I hear misinfromation all the time and I let it go without comment. My brothers here I try to help from buying a $300-$400 cue for "at least a $1000"
I have guys walk into the pool halls I play in and they have cues that are worth considerably less than they think. When you make a fair offer, they think you are stealing.
Now for all you guys offering suggested value of this cue, especially those who told this yahoo that his cue is worth up to $700, are you willing to pay him $700? :angry: No you are not. So you really arent doing this guy any service at all.
Ken
ok
for what its worth
if i respond to help someone and my commenents are not positive
I pm the person and offer advice and my phone number
i consider it to be poor form to criticize a fella in public,unless he is an honery kinda cowpoke who needs a public rebuke for showing me or someone else up
this poster has donething to incur public rebuke and so I say to him
welcome to Az where its not unusual for unwaranted or harsh treatment
to you I say welcome aboard,glad to see you here
Dean
PS you actually got a kinda hard shot from one of the best posters on here,a fella i am trusting to sell an expensive cue for me.So don't get offended one of these guys might become a friend later on
for what its worth
if i respond to help someone and my commenents are not positive
I pm the person and offer advice and my phone number
i consider it to be poor form to criticize a fella in public,unless he is an honery kinda cowpoke who needs a public rebuke for showing me or someone else up
this poster has donething to incur public rebuke and so I say to him
welcome to Az where its not unusual for unwaranted or harsh treatment
to you I say welcome aboard,glad to see you here
Dean
PS you actually got a kinda hard shot from one of the best posters on here,a fella i am trusting to sell an expensive cue for me.So don't get offended one of these guys might become a friend later on