Called Ox? That place looks worth a trip, wow.
Rasson vs Diamond Tables
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Its been 20some years for me, ha ha! The internet sure changed everything.
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Exactly, everyone knows that Green is the best color...Wow, how could you be so wrong on so many things
Jaden
I was finally able to make it over there a couple weeks back, definitely a quality spot.
The tables played nice but I was struggling with getting the feel of the rails, and the side pockets were cavernous, watched 2 balls roll in cleanly side-by-side off the break at one point.
Next time I go I'll try and spend a few hours alone and on either the Rassons or the Chinese 8ball table if I can get time on it, much closer than the only other one I know of in the area.
Hot Shots in Pismo Beach CA has 9 Rasson 9ft tables.
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I have never played on a Diamond table. However, a local room has about six 9-foot Rasson pro tables (identical to the ones you see in the big tourney's on TV) and I cannot imaging ANYTHING playing so perfectly. It is like an entirely different universe. They are so incredibly straight, and fast, a light tap of the cue ball sends it the length of the table, and the rails are unreal. Solid, firm, incredibly responsive. Consistent. The damn pockets are really tight, kind of like a snooker version of a pool pocket. I think 4.5" yet they go down to more like 4.25" about an inch into the pocket, making them play very tight. Really cannot get away with much on these tables. Extremely precise. No more sliding down the rail fat on those long corner cuts along the rail. And judging speed? It's a whole other universe... lol the 'real one' I think, and where I want to be.
I have heard there are some new 9-foot Diamond tables at a room in a nearby city. I will have to check them out. But, I cannot imaging anything matching what the Rasson Victory II plays like.
I have heard there are some new 9-foot Diamond tables at a room in a nearby city. I will have to check them out. But, I cannot imaging anything matching what the Rasson Victory II plays like.
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You're actually judging the cloths playableity, not the table itself.
If both tables are level, what difference does it make? So if it is a Brunswick or Ohlhausen, what difference does it make? Stroke straightness is all that matters in the end anyway. What pool cue, tip, table one has is irrelevant but it is a convenient way to make excuses for missing shots.
Agree completely.
A man after my own heart.
I blame myself when I lose and I blame myself when I win.
Many many years ago I was speaking to a very good veteran playing and told him I lost because I scratched too often.
He said: "Well whose fault was that?"
Lesson learned very quickly.
I had.an instructor say never blame yourself… blame everything else. I understood what was being said but totally disagree.
I was thinking the same thing but didn’t want to tell him lol
Garo 7
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No one really understands when they talk about how pool table plays, they're actually judging the cloth. I could take the exact same table you just played on, install Mali woven wool, 80%wool/20% nylon and you'd complain the table plays like crap, slow as hell, banks are slow, have to shoot harder than normal to get position, the whole 9 yards, on the SAME table you just praised as playing so well!!Oh, no excuses. Well, other than suspecting I may be at least partially bind in one or more eyes. (joke) Really I just liked how the table (ok cloth) felt. Or do I have to be a 700+ Fargo rating to like something? hahaha (I am guessing, around here...? Yes?
Exactly lol my first table was a junky ass american heritage it played fast as hell after I put good cloth on it. Now under the slate it was cheap garbage that fell a part but it played good
Badpenguin
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Many feel it necessary to express their inner asshole every time they post here. It is fairly typical for online interactions, unfortunately. Feel free to hover over their avatar and choose to ignore them...Oh, no excuses. Well, other than suspecting I may be at least partially bind in one or more eyes. (joke) Really I just liked how the table (ok cloth) felt. Or do I have to be a 700+ Fargo rating to like something? hahaha (I am guessing, around here...? Yes?
In my experience, multiple things can be attributed to how a table "feels" to me. The cloth, sure. But I also seem to like tables with thicker (one piece) slates, and more solid construction. They just "feel" better to me. Also, the sound of the balls rolling on a thicker slate is different to me. When I lean against a table and realize that if I bump it hard enough that I can probably cause it to move, it just feels cheap. The balls also matter, dirty vs clean. A valley bar box is the epitome of how I _don't_ like a table to "feel". I usually won't even watch tournaments played on valleys because of the overall impression of "cheapness" from them.
sudocrushms
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When it comes to the surface level is level when the cloth is the same. But there are some major differences in the way they play besides that:
- Love the broad rails on the Diamonds
- Don't like Diamonds with returns because i hit my knees on the sides
- Love the fully flush pockets on the Predators (looks like the Rassons are like that also)
- Hate the plastic pockets on GCs, they're not flush on the top and will spit out balls if you hit the edge of the plastic.
- Don't like tables with metal edging (have several dinged shafts to show for it)
I'm not good enough to have noticed the difference between shelf depth but i do prefer tighter pockets (glutton for punishment).
All tables should be level and have good cloth, but we'll all have preferences.
The three piece Diamond slate is slightly thicker than the one piece. Not sure where you get the one piece is thicker than three? I haven’t seen that. I’d love to try the Connelly Ultimate with its four piece 2” slate.