Ronnie Wiseman stiff's me for $3900

iba7467 said:
Everyone needs to relax on Shawn a little. Here is my take on the situation:

1. Ronnie told Shawn he was responsible for all the money
2. Ronnie could not pay Shawn all the money and left (air barrell)
3. Shawn was pissed and posted this thread
4. Word got around to Ronnie
5. Ronnie contacted Shawn, told him he wasn't really responsible for the money, which is what he told Shawn originally
6. Ronnie paid Shawn some money, told him he would pay the rest as long as Shawn retracted this thread
7. Shawn wants to get the rest of his money so he takes it all back

End result: Ronnie probably would have paid anyway, this just got it done more quickly. Shawn won some money, got paid some more money, and is owed a little more money.


Yes! Took the words right out of my mouth! This is someone with common sense.
 
When someone agrees that they owe you the money and that they will pay, it only makes sense for you to retract any bad statements made towards them.

Do you actually think if Shawn kept to the same story he would still get paid??? The reason he is getting paid IS BECAUSE OF THIS THREAD.
 
Neil said:
I read this several times, and I don't get it. You bad rep a guy that is probably not of this country for bad spelling? He didn't say that people live boring lives, Shawn did. What are you bad repping him for?

And what knowledge do you have that you feel that despite Shawn saying it was a misunderstanding, you feel enabled to call him a liar and Ronnie an air-barreler? What gives you the right to say they are now both lying?

I posted this because most sensible people can see that Shawn is posting this under duress from Ronnie with threat of withholding payment. I feel proud to be part of this forum as I believe this thread is the reason Shawn is being paid so quickly.
 
iba7467 said:
I posted this because most sensible people can see that Shawn is posting this under duress from Ronnie with threat of withholding payment. I feel proud to be part of this forum as I believe this thread is the reason Shawn is being paid so quickly.
You may think that, but you would be just conjecturing. And, you would also be very wrong. (I do have an inside track on it) And, a lot of people still owe Ronnie an apology. But, I guess all we have on here is condemners.
 
Neil said:
You may think that, but you would be just conjecturing. And, you would also be very wrong. (I do have an inside track on it) And, a lot of people still owe Ronnie an apology. But, I guess all we have on here is condemners.

I'm STILL WAITING to hear when Ronnie pays the full $3900 owed.

Does anyone know if he has paid any or all of the $3900?
Thanks,
JoeyA
 
Neil said:
You may think that, but you would be just conjecturing. And, you would also be very wrong. (I do have an inside track on it) And, a lot of people still owe Ronnie an apology. But, I guess all we have on here is condemners.


I've not read this entire thread but, IMO, RW will get respect/apologies from this community when his ACTIONS warrant same.

Lets not lose site of the fact that when the game was made there was, in all probability, an inference that real bullets were being fired.
 
Neil said:
You may think that, but you would be just conjecturing. And, you would also be very wrong. (I do have an inside track on it) And, a lot of people still owe Ronnie an apology. But, I guess all we have on here is condemners.
At the very least Ronnie air barreled Shawn for $500, and it may have been an even larger amount up to $3900. Even Shawn and Ronnie agree that at least a $500 air barrel happened, so the only thing in dispute is how much larger than $500 the air barrel was for. So what exactly is it that you feel people should be apologizing to Ronnie for? Just trying to see what I'm missing...
 
Neil said:
You may think that, but you would be just conjecturing. And, you would also be very wrong. (I do have an inside track on it) And, a lot of people still owe Ronnie an apology. But, I guess all we have on here is condemners.

lmao, Neil, you are the one that is way wrong on this and you aren't the one with the inside track (everyone else is). Shawn is posting the slight retraction because he wants to get paid, plain and simple.
 
Neil said:
You may think that, but you would be just conjecturing. And, you would also be very wrong. (I do have an inside track on it) And, a lot of people still owe Ronnie an apology. But, I guess all we have on here is condemners.

Neil it would appear your inside track is running the wrong direction. If you are getting your information from the Ronnie camp, you should be able to see the bias. Ronnie at a minimum fired a last game air barrell of $500 at Shawn. He also assured Shawn he was responsible for the entire bet.

Edited: This argument is pointless. Ronnie stuck Shawn for cash and people still defend Ronnie.
 
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It's pretty obvious why we need to apologize to RW. If we would just let this thread die without posting in it, he would still have his 3900 $. We ruined his action and emptied his pockets.

I am sorry RW, for contributing to this thread. I understand that you would still have the 3900 $ in your pockets if we would just keep our mouths, but now you have to give them away.. I am really sorry.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
It's pretty obvious why we need to apologize to RW. If we would just let this thread die without posting in it, he would still have his 3900 $. We ruined his action and emptied his pockets.

I am sorry RW, for contributing to this thread. I understand that you would still have the 3900 $ in your pockets if we would just keep our mouths, but now you have to give them away.. I am really sorry.


lol, funny stuff Roy. I would also like to apologize to Ronnie. I know that he intentionally stiffed Shawn for $3900 but hey, he's gotta eat I guess. I mean, he had the money to travel to NY and play in the Turning Stone and then he had the money to play thousand dollar sets last week, but it just wouldn't have been right to pay Shawn. I can't believe people are tarnishing this man's reputation by calling him out on stiffing someone for almost 4K. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I hope he pays and all is well again, but he doesn't deserve any kind of apology from any of us. He acted like a low down scumbag in this instance. If you don't want people to talk about you like you are a degenerate POS then don't act like one.
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
I hope Ronnie hears about all these comments and protects his reputation. If you're going to play for money, pay up!


He has heard. He contacted Shawn, and Shawn came on here and informed us that the issue had been "mended" and Ronnie" is in the process of making it right on my end." Most of us infer this to mean that Ronnie threatened not to pay Shawn if he didn't retract his statements in this thread. Numerous posters who couldn't see that have flamed Shawn for defaming Ronnie's reputation. Shawn has not posted in his defense ... which goes along with having to keep quite in order to be paid. Of course this is all speculation, but anyone that disagrees can get a bet down???
 
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iba7467 said:
He has heard. He contacted Shawn, and Shawn came on here and informed us that the issue had been "mended" and Ronnie" is in the process of making it right on my end." Most of us infer this to mean that Ronnie threatened not to pay Shawn if he didn't retract his statements in this thread. Numerous posters who couldn't see that have flamed Shawn for defaming Ronnie's reputation. Shawn has not posted in his defense ... which goes along with having to keep quite in order to be paid. Of course this is all speculation, but anyone that disagrees can get a bet down???

You MIGHT lose your bet IBA.

Now that everything is sorted out and Shawn has admitted he jumped the gun, I am betting that Ronnie is a man of his word and that he sends Shawn the owed money.

When Ronnie pays the $3900, all of his defenders will have plenty to crow about. Until then, we simply have to wait and see if Ronnie is going to be a man of his word.

JoeyA
 
Too late Joey

ShawnD said:
Just want to let everyone know that Ronnie stiffed me for $3900 at my poolroom in Hattiesburg. I am not a good player at all and he beat me at the same game that i happen to win this time. We played for 2 days straight and he paid me most of it but during our match in the middle of the night he promised to pay the next day if i let him continue to play. I thought there would be no problem. I know he had Scott Frost and Justin Hall hanging around with him and now he is saying they were in and he cant pay me until they pay him. That was not our agreement. I wanted to quit so this wouldnt happen but his words out of his mouth were I will pay you in full the next day. Well, guess what? He left town the next day and is trying to tell me they are responsible. I have talked to both of them and they are saying he is crazy. I am not going to chase the guy around or anything but i want to let everyone know what happened.

It's too late for RW to keep his word, according to Shawn.

Everything now is just spin control!

Ray
 
iba7467 said:
Numerous posters who couldn't see that have flamed Shawn for defaming Ronnie's reputation. ?

I agree with the gist of your post, but from what I'm reading, most people who are flaming Shawn are donig it because he trashed the people on this forum who tried to help him.
He got a lot of support here and bit the hand that helped him.
 
JoeyA said:
You MIGHT lose your bet IBA.

Now that everything is sorted out and Shawn has admitted he jumped the gun, I am betting that Ronnie is a man of his word and that he sends Shawn the owed money.

When Ronnie pays the $3900, all of his defenders will have plenty to crow about. Until then, we simply have to wait and see if Ronnie is going to be a man of his word.

JoeyA

I know where you are coming from Joey. I would definitely hold Ronnie Wiseman in much higher regards if he pays Shawn. However, that does not exempt him from the fact that he stiffed him to begin with. Honestly, his defenders can say, "See we knew he would pay." But it certainly doesn't hold up in an argument that he didn't do it or won't do it again.
 
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