Sarah Rousey comments on the Women's Worlds
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EVERYone should read this post, well done.
Conditions are absurd and much respect for Sarah to do what she did. How else is going to be changed? In private? She expressed the concern about the rails and was.. laughed at....
So this is the reprecussions for the people that laughed at her.
Now..everyone knows.
I really don't have any grist about what Sarah said on her blog. She knows full well what ramifications are possible for her outspoken comments.
What I do have a problem with is people who constantly harp on CW or DP saying nothing but negative crap, and some of it is based upon innuendos that you and others suggest from time to time.
I think if any of you want to support Sarah Rousey, you should write an email or letter to Charlie Williams and Dragon Promotions complaining about the conditions Sarah wrote about and that you are full agreement with her. You should explain your position respectfully and thoughtfully and offer suggestions that you think will improve their business. It may not make any immediate impact on their respective positions, your thoughts and comments are far more likely to be read and considered as they make preparations for their next tournament.
That may be something that you can do that might have some positive benefit.
I didn't watch any of the matches and wasn't there but if Sarah's comments are accurate (and I'm sure they are), the management may be more inclined to consider your point of view if criticism is levied with respect and privacy. If I were them, I probably wouldn't respond to any of the hate mail privately or publicly because it would just be used as fodder to continue the flaming.
I'm pretty much done with this thread. I don't think there is much more I can say or want to say.
Later,
JoeyA
This is not Charlie Williams/Dragon Promotions first event.
He's had months to plan.
It's a SANCTIONED World Championship.
It's not the Shanelle/Zarah invitational.
It's not the Barbie 10-Ball Open.
It should be unacceptable and more people should speak up. Speaking to the promoters in "private" - what good is that gonna do?
I give her credit for having an issue, knowing that there may be possible repercussions, and still speaking her mind.
He's had months to plan.
It's a SANCTIONED World Championship.
It's not the Shanelle/Zarah invitational.
It's not the Barbie 10-Ball Open.
It should be unacceptable and more people should speak up. Speaking to the promoters in "private" - what good is that gonna do?
I give her credit for having an issue, knowing that there may be possible repercussions, and still speaking her mind.
Joey,
This forum has effected change in the past. The reason that promoters are here doing their press releases is because they know that the audience reading AZ billiards is far larger than the relatively small group of active posters. You know this from our RSB days as well.
When discrepancies and conditions are made public, and by no less than a person who is materially affected by them, then that carries weight.
The fans of the game, us, give credit and support to everyone in this game who steps up to do it the right way. This members of this forum along with the members of another one pooled their money together to help Sarah make this trip. In effect AZ is her sponsor. It's sad to see that she is not being treated as a professional player but instead a necessary nuisance because DP needed to fill a 48 player board.
The admonition that those who aren't willing or able to "do it better" should remain silent is not a valid point. The right to speak out and criticize is a valid one and sometimes it hurts.
Someone said, "I don't care what anyone writes about me as long as is isn't true."
We can applaud Charlie for creating a $20,000 payday for women. We can vilify him for making the price of competing for that money that you have to endure horrid conditions and rampant favoritism. Especially in light of the fact that he has said that this is the best Women's event ever created.
Factually this event can't hold a candle to the Amway Cup, which has been in existence for 12 years and runs like clockwork with superb table conditions and the players treated like pure gold.
As for the idea that anyone can call their event a "World Championship". That's right, they can, but to be recognized in the WPA records as a world champion then the event needs WPA sanctioning. Along with WPA sanctioning SHOULD come a certain amount of professional standards and conduct and rules governing participation. Looking at the participants it's quite easy to see that the participation rules were bent as far as possible, professional standards do not seem to be evident nor is the conduct towards the real stars of the game anything short of tasteless and classless.
The WPA should have declared the equipment and the venue unfit for duty.
The saddest part of all this is that we all know pool is nothing more than a promoter's toy and the players are considered low caste chattel to be toyed with at will - but being told to "suck it up" and applaud the promoters who so flagrantly flaunt their positions of power is degrading. All we wish for as fans is to see good pool played by the best. To not have that happen staged by one who knows better is completely insulting.
JoeyA said:
And with that... here's the email:
support@dragonpromotions.com
Everyone on the thread just take a sec. Keep it short and polite and maybe it'll even get read.
As to the idea that Sarah wouldn't be "invited" to any future DP events I say this. IF those events are WPA sanctioned events, and especially if they are called "Word Championships" then there should be NO WAY that Sarah is barred IF her professional ranking is high enough to warrant a spot.
In other words if she EARNED a spot by maintaining a high enough ranking then she automatically gets a spot.
If such a situation occurs in the future and she is not accorded a spot I will be the first to donate to the lawsuit fund.
In other words if she EARNED a spot by maintaining a high enough ranking then she automatically gets a spot.
If such a situation occurs in the future and she is not accorded a spot I will be the first to donate to the lawsuit fund.
Thanks Sarah for the blog post. 
Man, JB has been on FIRE for about the last 3 weeks, what gives man, you're killin it!
It is pretty obvious you are of the 'old school' that believes that the golden rule always is the POWER rule.
Those that have the GOLD, Rule. They have the final say on how it is going to BE.
I think you will agree 'Not all promoters are created equal'.
The first requirement to have a successful debate is respect. I don't think DP or CW has that much respect from the majority of AZ members. I could be wrong, but this is my opinion.
It pains me that the WPA sanctioned this event and the playing conditions are 'acceptable' to the WPA and DP. That is very disrespectful IMO.
DP is making money on this event and hopefully it will cover all their expenses and then some so they can continue to 'support the pool world'
Those that have the GOLD, Rule. They have the final say on how it is going to BE.
I think you will agree 'Not all promoters are created equal'.
The first requirement to have a successful debate is respect. I don't think DP or CW has that much respect from the majority of AZ members. I could be wrong, but this is my opinion.
It pains me that the WPA sanctioned this event and the playing conditions are 'acceptable' to the WPA and DP. That is very disrespectful IMO.
DP is making money on this event and hopefully it will cover all their expenses and then some so they can continue to 'support the pool world'
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That is toooo funny. Love ya Sarah
I would/will donate also. There are a few womens orgs here in the US that would be happy to file a lawsuit on Sarah's behalf and the other women that get the same treatment. Johnnyt
Man, JB has been on FIRE for about the last 3 weeks, what gives man, you're killin it!
I have been keeping up with this thread today and also took a look at the website, http://www.womensworld10ball.com/.
Unfortunately for the players, whoever runs the events gets to chose the location, the rules and the conditions of the event. It is sad that the tournament promoters would think that poor equipment and poor location is acceptable for a women's "World" championship.
I am glad to see that Sarah spoke up for the women players being treated poorly, as second class players that are only there for their looks, not their skills. There are many players names that I see that I am not sure how they would have qualified for an event of this nature. I even did some looking around on the internet of some of the players that I had not heard of and still came to the same conclusion.
I find it interesting that I, and several other ladies on this forum, have made similar comments in the past to some players being admitted to tournaments for their looks instead of their skill. We were called jealous and envious for those comments. It's good to see some of the members perceptions changing when the word comes from a respected pro as well.
Unfortunately for the players, whoever runs the events gets to chose the location, the rules and the conditions of the event. It is sad that the tournament promoters would think that poor equipment and poor location is acceptable for a women's "World" championship.
I am glad to see that Sarah spoke up for the women players being treated poorly, as second class players that are only there for their looks, not their skills. There are many players names that I see that I am not sure how they would have qualified for an event of this nature. I even did some looking around on the internet of some of the players that I had not heard of and still came to the same conclusion.
I find it interesting that I, and several other ladies on this forum, have made similar comments in the past to some players being admitted to tournaments for their looks instead of their skill. We were called jealous and envious for those comments. It's good to see some of the members perceptions changing when the word comes from a respected pro as well.
Sarah's experience is freaking unbelievable.!!!! While I do understand the promotional aspects of any international or local event, I would not blame her one bit if she or other female players decide not to participate in future DP events. It is my opinion that these issues should be addressed directly to the WPA once she returns home.
With the state of pool, is that it is hard to turn down $20K in prize money, even if the conditions are bad.
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those women have the option to say no, they don't have to fall in line behind DP.
PS glad SR had the nuts to say something, regardless of the consequences. if more people stood up about the treatment they receive in events/tours, the perception about pool might change overall.....wishful thinking I suppose.
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