Real easy to blow smoke when you know it ain't happening
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Mike,
[...]. I do not know if you have considered the concept that accuracy can go up a lot if most shots are *well* withing the limits of your strength. For many women, many shots fall closer to their strength limits.
And I most certainly believe that many many people are indeed blind to the differences between men and women.
Sorry if this sounds harsh...
Mike,
Strength was just one component of the case I was making. Temperament and other factors I listed I think are even more a factor than strength, as illustrated by my chess example. If you don't find the strength angle compelling, I would encourage you to consider further the specific applications of strength in a wide variety of pool situations. I do not know if you have considered the concept that accuracy can go up a lot if most shots are *well* withing the limits of your strength. For many women, many shots fall closer to their strength limits.
And I most certainly believe that many many people are indeed blind to the differences between men and women. I think many many people are blind to MANY differences between many things. Most people, even highly intelligent people (who for some reason must not consider the issue much), are most likely not aware of most research out there. Discernment is a principle ingredient in intelligence, and by definition the average person is only of average intelligence, and as such will simply not recognize many distinctions that do in fact exist. Also, I do indeed believe that many people are operating out of some assumption (compulsion really) to somehow make men and women equal. To imply that a woman can't do what a man can do is somehow horrible bigotry to many. Like all things, there are exceptions. However, whether or not there are exceptions my statements hold, unless someone wishes to claim that the exceptions account for more than 50% of the sample.
The point is, I am either right or I'm not. If I am, which I obviously believe, then the people who disagree are wrong because of any combination of ignorance, faulty logic, or being "blind to the differences". To characterize those people some other way, when that is the way it is, would be disingenuous...almost exactly the way characterizing men and women as equal is disingenuous. That said, I also hold an open mind and am overjoyed to hear any counter arguments. I'm happy to be wrong if this is the case, but the research out there is on my side in this one.
Sorry if this sounds harsh...
KMRUNOUT
I think this chick gets heisted by a man of the same Fargo rate. That being said, I still think it's the best rating system we have.
The Wednesday night tourney I play in has a few pros in it. On occasion I beat them. Apparently that makes me a pro. One guy I'm pretty sure can give me the 7 out playing 10 ball and rob me. I've never won a race to 7 or more with him, but I have won races to 5. Point is, a decent player is going to beat some top players every so often, but remain the HUGE underdog nonetheless.
KMRUNOUT
It's not hard to make it happen. It's rather simple.
You like her side, why don't you find 4 or 5 others on here that like her side and put up the dough. I'm sure she would come when they have a wpba event and play this also.
I'll cover the other side. It's not a problem to have that side covered.
Jean competed against men on a regular basis and in 14-1 had many top finishes before she turned to nine ball which she played pretty sporty also , a little CnPI think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.
We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?
Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?
Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.
Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.
Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.
There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.
I think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.
We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?
Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?
Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.
Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.
Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.
There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.
Robin Bell by chance?
I think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.
We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?
Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?
Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.
Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.
Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.
There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.
Man that place was wild like the Mutual of Omaha's wild kingdom.
When you try to sound cool, but miss the mark by a mile^^^^
Jason
Doesnt matter what the highest woman finish was, none of those women were her speed. Whats so hard to understand about this??? This thread is filled with stupidity.
Why so butthurt that a woman plays better than EVERYBODY on here except Berg?
Jason
Well I think it's hard for some to believe woman can compete with men on any level , yet most here can't even dream of completeing with those women at that high of level they are living thier thoughts vicariously threw the skills of the very elite male players , pretty comical and my bet is in the next 10 yrs that gap is going to close even more on the high end it wouldn't surprise me if a woman wins a WPA 9 ball event it's not If but when
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