Siming Chen

I think this chick gets heisted by a man of the same Fargo rate. That being said, I still think it's the best rating system we have.
 
Real easy to blow smoke when you know it ain't happening


1

It's not hard to make it happen. It's rather simple.
You like her side, why don't you find 4 or 5 others on here that like her side and put up the dough. I'm sure she would come when they have a wpba event and play this also.

I'll cover the other side. It's not a problem to have that side covered.
 
Is anyone in here or a group of people willing to round up 20k for her to play Sky?

Does anyone ever bet on what they preach?

Let's make it happen.
 
Mike,

[...]. I do not know if you have considered the concept that accuracy can go up a lot if most shots are *well* withing the limits of your strength. For many women, many shots fall closer to their strength limits.

I HAVE thought about this, and I don't know which way it plays. There are two aspects. One is the one you mention, that when pinging closer to your own speed high-end accuracy goes down--and a weaker person is more likely affected by this. The flip side is this, and it has to do with speed control. The vast majority of shots are well within the comfort zone of any somewhat athletic, coordinated person. Let's say
Sampson's full range is 0 to 100, and
Delilah's full range is 0 to 50.
Let's also say most shots fall in the range 5 to 40. Who is going to better able to distinguish between a 17 and an 18? For Delilah, it is 2% of her range; for Sampson it is 1% of his range and the distinction between the two is more subtle--kinda like having your radio dial or computer-mouse more sensitive. So again, I don't know how this plays out. It's probably not very important either way.

And I most certainly believe that many many people are indeed blind to the differences between men and women.

Perhaps they are not blind to the differences but instead see other factors as being more important than those differences in leading whatever outcome difference we're talking about.

[...]

Sorry if this sounds harsh...

lol...It's all good ....
 
Mike,

Strength was just one component of the case I was making. Temperament and other factors I listed I think are even more a factor than strength, as illustrated by my chess example. If you don't find the strength angle compelling, I would encourage you to consider further the specific applications of strength in a wide variety of pool situations. I do not know if you have considered the concept that accuracy can go up a lot if most shots are *well* withing the limits of your strength. For many women, many shots fall closer to their strength limits.

And I most certainly believe that many many people are indeed blind to the differences between men and women. I think many many people are blind to MANY differences between many things. Most people, even highly intelligent people (who for some reason must not consider the issue much), are most likely not aware of most research out there. Discernment is a principle ingredient in intelligence, and by definition the average person is only of average intelligence, and as such will simply not recognize many distinctions that do in fact exist. Also, I do indeed believe that many people are operating out of some assumption (compulsion really) to somehow make men and women equal. To imply that a woman can't do what a man can do is somehow horrible bigotry to many. Like all things, there are exceptions. However, whether or not there are exceptions my statements hold, unless someone wishes to claim that the exceptions account for more than 50% of the sample.

The point is, I am either right or I'm not. If I am, which I obviously believe, then the people who disagree are wrong because of any combination of ignorance, faulty logic, or being "blind to the differences". To characterize those people some other way, when that is the way it is, would be disingenuous...almost exactly the way characterizing men and women as equal is disingenuous. That said, I also hold an open mind and am overjoyed to hear any counter arguments. I'm happy to be wrong if this is the case, but the research out there is on my side in this one.

Sorry if this sounds harsh...

KMRUNOUT

Everything is like everything else.....except not always! :thumbup:
 
The Wednesday night tourney I play in has a few pros in it. On occasion I beat them. Apparently that makes me a pro. One guy I'm pretty sure can give me the 7 out playing 10 ball and rob me. I've never won a race to 7 or more with him, but I have won races to 5. Point is, a decent player is going to beat some top players every so often, but remain the HUGE underdog nonetheless.

KMRUNOUT

Me too!

I even won a kinda big event once, beating a bunch of guys who would stick me up with ease.

Pool needs us, tap tap.
 
I think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.

We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?

Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?

Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.

Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.

Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.

There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.
 
It's not hard to make it happen. It's rather simple.
You like her side, why don't you find 4 or 5 others on here that like her side and put up the dough. I'm sure she would come when they have a wpba event and play this also.

I'll cover the other side. It's not a problem to have that side covered.

Never said I like her side against Sky in a long set ,, never the less you know it ain't happening she would never match up here against anybody,, there simply is nothing to gain


1
 
I think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.

We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?

Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?

Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.

Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.

Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.

There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.
Jean competed against men on a regular basis and in 14-1 had many top finishes before she turned to nine ball which she played pretty sporty also , a little CnP

Balukas was initially entered in both the men's and women's divisions of the 1987 B.C. Classic, a nine-ball competition. After notable controversy (detailed below), she competed only on the men's side. Along the way she trounced Keith McCready 11–3 (at the time the 17th-ranked male player by money list, and who guest-starred as obnoxious hustler "Grady Seasons" in the 1986 film The Color of Money). Balukas finished in a tie for 9th place among many of the best players in the world.

1
 
I think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.

We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?

Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?

Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.

Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.

Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.

There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.

Robin Bell by chance?

Full Name - Robin Bell Dodson
Lives - California, USA
Titles/Achievements - 2009 induction into WPBA Hall of Fame
**************************** - 2005 induction into BCA Hall of Fame
**************************** - 1998 WPBA Twin Cities Classic
**************************** - 1995 WPBA Denver/Detroit/Atlanta Classics
**************************** - 1994 & 1995 Gordon’s Championships
**************************** - 1994 WPBA San Diego/Atlanta Classics
**************************** - 1992 US Open 9 Ball Championship
**************************** - 1992 Brunswick Challenge Cup
**************************** - 1992 McDermott Masters
**************************** - 1991 Brunswick Munich Masters
**************************** - 1991 Big Island Classic
**************************** - 1990 & 1991 WPA World 9-Ball Champion
**************************** - 1989 WPBA National 9 Ball Championship
**************************** - 1986 Cleveland Open (Spring and Fall)
**************************** - 1985 Resorts International Open
**************************** - 1984 Great American Classic
**************************** - 1984 Caesar's Tahoe Classic
**************************** - 1983 Miller Lite World Series of Pool
**************************** - 1979 California Women’s State Champion


http://www.pro9.co.uk/html/print.php?sid=1711
 
Last edited:
Robin Bell by chance?

Not in a million years. I don't think she would stand a chance. At the time the Black Widow wouldn't either.

There is a famous story of Dana beating the Pinoy pro, " Dodong " Andam for the cash, even, down in the basement, back in the day.

The story is that Dana was losing to Andam and then had an episode like a little seizure where he seemed ready to black out. His eyes rolled up into the back of his head and he grabbed the table to keep standing. Whatever this episode really was he didn't miss another ball after it.

I was not at the event and this was all related to me by a cat that was there. I used to watch him practice. He had this really ratty looking sneeky pete with a duct tape wrap.

Dana if he thought you were knocking his action would give you a fist sandwich. He was eighty-sixed from just about every pool hall in city.

The old Hollywood Billiards was on one of the worst corners in the City. There were 4 pay phones out on that corner of Western and Hollywood Blvd. manned by cats with Raiders Jackets on and pagers. The sh...t was flowing.

The air in that basement was fetid, foul and soup like from all the cigarette smoke. Man that place was wild like the Mutual of Omaha's wild kingdom.
 
I think we should cut right to the chase. What was the highest finish of a woman at the US Open? I don't know what the history is and how many years women have competed there but I do know that for a least a modicum of years they have.

We are kinda of lost in the esoteric weeds. The question remains: Why do women compete for the most part with their own sex rather than play with the men, if they have a chance of winning?

Why is it that in every pool hall I've ever played at, the top female has no chance beating the top male without weight?

Back in the day I played a little at Hollywood Billiards down in the basement at Hollywood Blvd. and Western. I was playing 8 ball then. Didn't play Nine Ball much less One Pocket.

Forever, a guy named "Dana" never knew his last name, was the top dog in that room. He was super strong and could walk from the street level down the stairs to the basement on his hands.

Dana was a fine Nine Ball player and his One Pocket was very sporting.

There was no woman regular that stood a chance against this guy period, end of story.

Doesnt matter what the highest woman finish was, none of those women were her speed. Whats so hard to understand about this??? This thread is filled with stupidity.

Why so butthurt that a woman plays better than EVERYBODY on here except Berg?
Jason
 
Doesnt matter what the highest woman finish was, none of those women were her speed. Whats so hard to understand about this??? This thread is filled with stupidity.

Why so butthurt that a woman plays better than EVERYBODY on here except Berg?
Jason

I think that you are confused regarding my copy.
 
Well I think it's hard for some to believe woman can compete with men on any level , yet most here can't even dream of completeing with those women at that high of level they are living thier thoughts vicariously threw the skills of the very elite male players , pretty comical and my bet is in the next 10 yrs that gap is going to close even more on the high end it wouldn't surprise me if a woman wins a WPA 9 ball event it's not If but when


1
 
Well I think it's hard for some to believe woman can compete with men on any level , yet most here can't even dream of completeing with those women at that high of level they are living thier thoughts vicariously threw the skills of the very elite male players , pretty comical and my bet is in the next 10 yrs that gap is going to close even more on the high end it wouldn't surprise me if a woman wins a WPA 9 ball event it's not If but when


1

Well said:thumbup:
Jason
 
Back
Top