T.a.r. Challenge
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I just want to see these two play so come on guys make a game.
this is my 2 cents
donnys rack is a learned tool. corys soft break is a learned tool.shanes hard break in 10 ball is a learned tool.ernestos full cue jump is a learned tool.for anyone to say that they are not fair is just wrong in my opinion. Why you ask, becouse they took the time to LEARN how to do it! so before you condemn them for learning something the rest of us are to lazy or just dont want to learn is wrong. i say if you can learn something that gives you an edge its ok! when you introduce a new product like a "jumpstick" that takes away an aspect of the game like "kicking" it equilizes the game a bit now the lesser player can jump over instead of kick! that is my 2 cents!:thumbup:
donnys rack is a learned tool. corys soft break is a learned tool.shanes hard break in 10 ball is a learned tool.ernestos full cue jump is a learned tool.for anyone to say that they are not fair is just wrong in my opinion. Why you ask, becouse they took the time to LEARN how to do it! so before you condemn them for learning something the rest of us are to lazy or just dont want to learn is wrong. i say if you can learn something that gives you an edge its ok! when you introduce a new product like a "jumpstick" that takes away an aspect of the game like "kicking" it equilizes the game a bit now the lesser player can jump over instead of kick! that is my 2 cents!:thumbup:
Nasty's spelling skills are a learned tool..... wait nevermind...
100 % correct sir !!!!
How bout all the players that take snappers cuz they think it gives them a edge....I know alot of the top players that use or use to use...Dioxins...not sure of the spelling.....Bottom line is if you like the game..or the player in the game...BET....If you don't like it for whatever reason...Don't bet....It doesn't get any plainer IMHO.
How bout all the players that take snappers cuz they think it gives them a edge....I know alot of the top players that use or use to use...Dioxins...not sure of the spelling.....Bottom line is if you like the game..or the player in the game...BET....If you don't like it for whatever reason...Don't bet....It doesn't get any plainer IMHO.
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gabe said it best. the fairest and most skilled way would be winner breaks tenball with a mandatory pushout after you break ,whether you make a ball on break or not. then the whole game is not whether you get lucky and make one on break and get straight in . the top players would rise to the top almost everytime,in fact it would be twice as hard just to beat say johnny archer in a race to 9.
gabe said it best. the fairest and most skilled way would be winner breaks tenball with a mandatory pushout after you break ,whether you make a ball on break or not. then the whole game is not whether you get lucky and make one on break and get straight in . the top players would rise to the top almost everytime,in fact it would be twice as hard just to beat say johnny archer in a race to 9.
95% of the "rack your own" advantage is removed if the opponent has the ability to place the 2-8 balls in their chosen order in the rack or require that those balls are placed in truly random fashion.
The reason "rack your own" is frowned upon by most people with the knowledge of why it is really done is the non-random aspect of the order of the balls in the rack meant to remove the random factor from the break and the subsequent runout.
If the opponent had the option of moving 4 of the 2-8 balls in the 9-ball rack to random positions in the rack and then letting Donnie rack the balls himself, but in that order, I am sure most people would think "rack your own" is a non-issue at that point because he is not going to be looking at the exact same runout after every break shot.
i think
i think your missing my point, if donny can learn to do this then rodney shane or evan schmidty could do it! now there is a definate "TALENT" gap between those 3 and donny. yet if they are willing to go to donnys room they will get played in rack your own 9 ball and several well known players will bet on donny! thats all im saying it can be learned by donnys opponets if they want to make a score learn it and head to florida! jmtc:thumbup:
i think your missing my point, if donny can learn to do this then rodney shane or evan schmidty could do it! now there is a definate "TALENT" gap between those 3 and donny. yet if they are willing to go to donnys room they will get played in rack your own 9 ball and several well known players will bet on donny! thats all im saying it can be learned by donnys opponets if they want to make a score learn it and head to florida! jmtc:thumbup:
Joe T
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Celt it does help to rack in order but it's far far from taking away 95%. Just making the corner ball and getting a shot on the 1 or the 1st shot is the huge part.
why did the rack your own game with rodney die?
Twice now you and I have spoke about you playing Larry Nevel and you wanted weight at the time which Larry agreed to. I gave you his number to contact him to setup the time and date and you never called.
That aside, I just got off the phone with Larry. If you wanna come to Beloit, WI and play on the Diamond table they have there, you got action. 10-ball, even, rack your own. Larry hasn't been playing lately so this should be pretty easy action for you if you can find your way out of Florida, which I'm sure you won't be able to for whatever reason.
No, I'm not staking the game, I'm just the messenger.
Let me know.
I think it quite nitty that someone would develop the skill to rack, make the same ball on the break, have the same shot, with all the balls in virtually the same places, to be shot in the same pockets, and get out at a 95% clip AND NOT BE WILLING TO PLAY ANYONE IN THE WORLD FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BET!!!
Oh wait, it's a little worse that this... YOU MUST COME TO HIM AND PLAY ON HIS TABLE SO HE KNOWS YOU CAN'T WIN.
Furthermore, I feel it equally nitty that such an individual would then offer to play a champion of some note (RODNEY) this way and OFFER THE LAST THREE...if he breaks down the middle. LOL!
Logically, this can only mean he knows he is the best in the world at this and all of these offers are gaffs.
In defense one player called out by Mr. Mills, I counter with the following:
JEREMY JONES would like to play DONNY MILLS on TAR
EVEN ONE POCKET (race to 25)
and
EVEN TEN BALL (race to 100; SARDO rack mandatory)
DONNY must come to HOUSTON because JEREMY officially refuses to fly to play DONNY.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...10K per set
Oh wait, it's a little worse that this... YOU MUST COME TO HIM AND PLAY ON HIS TABLE SO HE KNOWS YOU CAN'T WIN.
Furthermore, I feel it equally nitty that such an individual would then offer to play a champion of some note (RODNEY) this way and OFFER THE LAST THREE...if he breaks down the middle. LOL!
Logically, this can only mean he knows he is the best in the world at this and all of these offers are gaffs.
In defense one player called out by Mr. Mills, I counter with the following:
JEREMY JONES would like to play DONNY MILLS on TAR
EVEN ONE POCKET (race to 25)
and
EVEN TEN BALL (race to 100; SARDO rack mandatory)
DONNY must come to HOUSTON because JEREMY officially refuses to fly to play DONNY.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...10K per set
Hello................
Lol! I don't play one pocket. Look I was just trying to get a tenball tar match. I think you have me overrated in the 9ball rack ur own game.
Since racking your own and knowledge of where all the balls are going to end up seems to be the big issue here why not try this.Rack the 1 ball in the back ball position and you have to break off the end rail first.Since Donny and who ever he plays probally have never done this They both will have a short amount of time to practice this. I have played several races like this and it almost always comes down to the better player winning.Some of you will probally laugh at this but it makes breaking and running out alot harder.Try it the nextime your at the room and see how tough it is.
I completely understand Mr. Mills. Action is action and your game is very well respected.
Incidentally, I don't think Jeremy plays much rack your own either.
I see a 10 ball game in your future.
Incidentally, I don't think Jeremy plays much rack your own either.
I see a 10 ball game in your future.
Yes I was trying to get weight from larry nevel playing 9ball about a year ago, which was before my 9ball action was blown. I love getting weight! I got bj ussery to give me the 8 2 or 3 years ago. Aren't you supposed to?! lol! I normally only play matches here or at the us open. If larry would've been around we wouldve played 9ball.
I'll say it again; i have no interest in playing a expensive tenball match unless it is on tar, and i don't know if I would play nevel even 10ball.
I only play rack ur own in every game. In 10ball i dont break that good, but im gonna have a good rack, and my opponent can gaff rack himself all he likes but not me.