The Bobby Riggs dump game

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ESPN is about to do a story they got from an old time golfer in his 80's. He has decided to come clean on the Bobby Riggs/Billie Jean King match. He said Riggs was in deep with gambling debts and "threw" the match to get even.

The people who have the Beard's Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers already know that the Beard scooped ESPN months ago with the same revelation. The difference is that I was a little more specific re Bobby's reasons for the toss. Rather than trying to get out from gambling debts, Bobby went into the tank to help promote the fledgling Women's Pro Tennis Tour that boomed soon after he lost. Billionaire Lamar Hunt was behind the Womens Pro Tour.

I knew about the scam decades ago when I was informed by Marty Stanovich, aka The Fat Man, the greatest golf hustler of all time.

Beard
 
Good morning Beard- remember watching that event vividly. Bobby playing with his jacket on and the many faces and grimaces. If you ever waged a penny on a sporting event you knew immediately that you were being had. Though the world had treated it like a major event, when it actually happened the match appeared scripted....just like a wrestling match. This was at a time when the "woman's lib" movement was really cranking. Remember Helen Reddy "I Am Woman" was the theme song for every woman that walked the planet.

The younger people on this board probably never heard of the event. Tennis has slipped back almost as far as pool. But it was a big deal in the day.

Bob
 
I can believe this and always thought it was a dump. If more boxing fans knew how much dumping goes on in their sport most never bet on it...or watch it. Johnnyt
 
ESPN is about to do a story they got from an old time golfer in his 80's. He has decided to come clean on the Bobby Riggs/Billie Jean King match. He said Riggs was in deep with gambling debts and "threw" the match to get even.

The people who have the Beard's Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers already know that the Beard scooped ESPN months ago with the same revelation. The difference is that I was a little more specific re Bobby's reasons for the toss. Rather than trying to get out from gambling debts, Bobby went into the tank to help promote the fledgling Women's Pro Tennis Tour that boomed soon after he lost. Billionaire Lamar Hunt was behind the Womens Pro Tour.

I knew about the scam decades ago when I was informed by Marty Stanovich, aka The Fat Man, the greatest golf hustler of all time.

Beard

I was aware of the scam years ago when Hal Houle told me -- I believe he knew Bobby. Many aren't aware, but Hal was a good tennis player back in the day. Being that he's mid-80's now, that would be more than a few years ago.

According to Hal, Billie Jean had zero chance of beating Bobby. Bobby was somewhat of a tennis hustler and played at a very good speed.

I wish I remember more of the story -- Hal knew the ins and outs of what exactly happened and it was fascinating to listen to him break it down. Unfortunately, Hal's dimensia has probably swallowed that story up a number of years ago -- it's a shame.
 
Bobby Riggs Dump,,,,,,,,,,!!!

Got a kick out of reading all about it in the Beard's book,,,,,,

By the way, the stuff on Elvis was Priceless as Well,!!!

Alan Ende.
 
Bobby Riggs doing business? Doesn't surprise me. Like someone else said, it looked srcipted. I don't imagine Billy Jean was in on it. She just played and "won", right?
 
Know some people in New York who are very deep into the tennis world and knew Bobby close up and personal....it was a dump.

J
 
I remember this, we watched it on TV, it was a really big deal back then, this was around the time I started playing pool as a kid, tennis was a big deal back then, everyone played, I remember having a wood racquet with one of those frames that went around it when you put it away so it did not warp, too bad nobody ever made one of those for pool cues, LOL then Aluminum racquets starting coming out and the oversize prince racquet was all the rage, after I started playing pool, I did not play much tennis anymore, until college when I took it as my PE credit, allot of my friends were into it, and always trying to put doubles teams together, I was busy hanging out at Bakers pool room in Tampa learning pool from the old guys. I had no idea that Bobby took a dive until now, thanks for posting.
 

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Good morning Beard- remember watching that event vividly. Bobby playing with his jacket on and the many faces and grimaces. If you ever waged a penny on a sporting event you knew immediately that you were being had. Though the world had treated it like a major event, when it actually happened the match appeared scripted....just like a wrestling match. This was at a time when the "woman's lib" movement was really cranking. Remember Helen Reddy "I Am Woman" was the theme song for every woman that walked the planet.

The younger people on this board probably never heard of the event. Tennis has slipped back almost as far as pool. But it was a big deal in the day.

Bob

I thought tennis was doing great these days, at least the players are making big bucks and the US Open is on TV!
 
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Bobby Riggs doing business? Doesn't surprise me. Like someone else said, it looked srcipted. I don't imagine Billy Jean was in on it. She just played and "won", right?

As I went over in my book, it is much more effective if the person "catching" the dump is not in on it. Plus there is one less person in on the swindle who can rat you out later.

Beard
 
Interesting story. Perhaps Bobby Riggs did all of the above.

A. Helped the women's tennis tour
B. Got paid by Lamar Hunt to dump.
C. Got out from under gambling debts.
D. All of the above
 
those who know tennis that even the top women cant beat average male players.

Serena Williams would lose to most male college-level players.
 
ESPN is about to do a story they got from an old time golfer in his 80's. He has decided to come clean on the Bobby Riggs/Billie Jean King match. He said Riggs was in deep with gambling debts and "threw" the match to get even.

The people who have the Beard's Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers already know that the Beard scooped ESPN months ago with the same revelation. The difference is that I was a little more specific re Bobby's reasons for the toss. Rather than trying to get out from gambling debts, Bobby went into the tank to help promote the fledgling Women's Pro Tennis Tour that boomed soon after he lost. Billionaire Lamar Hunt was behind the Womens Pro Tour.

I knew about the scam decades ago when I was informed by Marty Stanovich, aka The Fat Man, the greatest golf hustler of all time.

Beard

Couple questions....

1.) Since you are coming out what was the extent of his gambling debts?

2.) Are you suggesting that Fat Man was a greater hustler than Thompson?

3.) I want a hardback signed copy of book...what should I do?

Ken
 
Couple questions....

1.) Since you are coming out what was the extent of his gambling debts?

2.) Are you suggesting that Fat Man was a greater hustler than Thompson?

3.) I want a hardback signed copy of book...what should I do?

Ken

Marty Stanovich (the Fat Man) used to wait until a Golf tournament was over and then bust out the winner. (Prize funds in those days were pitiful, so he seldom competed in the tournaments.). I heard he could rob every golfer in the world except some player from Wisconsin (forgot who).
I never heard anything substantial about the gambling debts, although it doesnt interfere with the story line.

I just signed a contract and paid the set up fees for the hard cover with my publisher.

You can send me $50 thru PayPal to my acct there which is my email address, bankingwiththebeard@comcast.net or send a personal check to me @ Fred Bentivegna, 445 W 27th St Chicago, IL 60616.

If sending a check let me know and I will lock up a number (from 101 to 150). The numbers are up to #120, with #123 and #150 already taken also.

Beard
 
I'm surprised he didn't end up in the ocean with all the other trash.
Seems like an army of people were in the know , probably not a good idea when you take gangsters to the dump.
 
Marty Stanovich (the Fat Man) used to wait until a Golf tournament was over and then bust out the winner. (Prize funds in those days were pitiful, so he seldom competed in the tournaments.). I heard he could rob every golfer in the world except some player from Wisconsin (forgot who).
I never heard anything substantial about the gambling debts, although it doesnt interfere with the story line.

I just signed a contract and paid the set up fees for the hard cover with my publisher.

You can send me $50 thru PayPal to my acct there which is my email address, bankingwiththebeard@comcast.net or send a personal check to me @ Fred Bentivegna, 445 W 27th St Chicago, IL 60616.

If sending a check let me know and I will lock up a number (from 101 to 150). The numbers are up to #120, with #123 and #150 already taken also.

Beard

Paypal sent my friend.

Any number is fine.

Ken
 
The people who have the Beard's Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers already know that the Beard scooped ESPN months ago with the same revelation. The difference is that I was a little more specific re Bobby's reasons for the toss.

The Beard broke this story!

I saw the headline today on MSN.com and quickly skimmed the article to see if you were mentioned as a source. Then, I hustled over to AZbilliards to see if anyone posted the same observation.

Read your entry on the subject a couple weeks back in the TEOPH. Like everything else in that book, GREAT STUFF!
 
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those who know tennis that even the top women cant beat average male players.

Serena Williams would lose to most male college-level players.

People might not believe this, but its pretty accurate. The Williams sisters challenged any man ranked out of the men's top 200 and here is an article of what happened for any tennis fans (the article leaves out that Braasch had already played a round of golf, smoked a few cigs, and drank a couple of beers before the matches):

WILLIAMS SISTERS DISCOVER MEN ARE BETTER PLAYERS

MELBOURNE -- Venus and Serena Williams discovered they're no match for the men on the ATP tennis tour, at least not yet.

In an impromptu 'Battle of the Sexes' at the Australian Open yesterday, first Serena, then Venus challenged No 203 Karsten Braasch to a set apiece, and he beat them both.

Serena fell 6-1, Venus 6-2. They played as intensely as they could, while Braasch performed with gentlemanly restraint.

"It was extremely hard," said the 16-year-old Serena. "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."

That didn't stop her from boasting that "this time next year I'll beat him. I have to pump some weight . . . I have to work hard to be on the men's tour."

Venus, 17, wasn't about to concede too much either, especially since she broke Braasch's serve once.

"I can beat men in the 300s and up," she said. "He thought we couldn't get a point. He didn't think we could play. We showed him we could."

Asked if she might not want to take on players on the senior tour, or retired men as Billie-Jean King did against 1939 Wimbledon champion Bobby Riggs in their ballyhooed 'Battle of the Sexes' in 1973, Venus shook her beaded head.

"I'm going for the young guns," she said.

Braasch smiled at their claims.

"Against anyone in the top 500, no chance," Braasch said, "because I was playing like 600 today."

The sister act played Braasch on Court 12 in the boondocks of the Australian Open complex. A few hundred fans and players who wandered by witnessed the event along with a crowd of media. No umpire, no linesmen, no ball boys, no scoreboard. And no prize money or bets. Only pride was at stake.

It all started a few days ago when the Williams sisters wandered into the ATP tour office at the Australian Open and boldly claimed they could beat any of the men ranked 200 or above. The bespectacled Braasch, a German who has sunk in the rankings after reaching 38 in 1994, happened to be in the office and took up the challenge.

Venus was still in the tournament at the time so a match was set between Serena and Braasch for Sunday. Rain postponed that until yesterday and with the sun shining Serena and Braasch showed up ready to defend the honour of their sexes.

At least that's how Serena saw it. For Braasch, it was a joke. He never even considered the possibility he might be ridiculed by the other men players if he lost.

"Everyone knew that there's no chance for them," he said. "They were talking to me, that I should go out and beat them by as much as possible. They said make it 24 points and go off the court."

He played, he said, for fun, "because tennis doesn't have to be serious, especially when you're out of the tournament." Braasch lost last week in the singles and doubles.

When Riggs lost to King at the Houston Astrodome, there was a crowd of more than 30 000 -- the biggest in tennis history. That nationally televised exhibition, four months after Riggs' 'Mother's Day Massacre' of Margaret Court, did more to establish women's tennis than any other match or tournament.

The Williams sisters, in their way, are bringing new life to the women's tour, even if they couldn't beat Braasch. Venus reached the final of the US Open and the quarters here. Serena has beaten three top 10 players since turning pro a few months ago. Each has the personality and flash to make the sport more popular than ever.

Braasch, a left-handed junk ball expert with a convoluted service motion, won the first five games against Serena. He ran her dizzy all over the court, showing her a befuddling assortment of spins.

He could have hit harder if he wanted, taken her out of points sooner, but as her unofficial coach, Nick Bollettieri, noted at courtside, "He's being kind to her."

Venus, who had just changed into jeans after losing in the women's quarter-finals to Lindsay Davenport, showed up at Court 12 late and saw her sister getting trounced.

"I'd definitely take this guy on," she said. When Braasch held at love to 5-0, Venus' competitiveness got the better of her.

"Maybe I should go get dressed," she said to Bollettieri. "What do you think, Nick?"

"Go for it," he answered.

Venus raced across Melbourne Park, her multi-coloured beads flying among the surprised fans. She changed quickly and raced right back, arriving out of breath just as Serena won her only game when Braasch netted a backhand after a couple of deuces.

The small crowd roared for Serena, but Braasch closed out the set with an ace a few moments later.

As Serena and Braasch shook hands, Venus entered the court and issued her own challenge to Braasch.

Venus had as little success as Serena when the match got under way. She lost her first service game at love, managed only one point on Braasch's serve and dropped her next serve.

But after going down 4-0, Venus held serve at love as Braasch hit several errors.

Perhaps boredom was setting in because Braasch then lost his own serve to 4-2 when Venus cracked a sizzling forehand past him on her second break point.

Braasch wasn't about to let the set get away. He stepped up his pace a bit, overpowered Venus on her serve and closed out the match with an ace.

"I took at least 50 per cent off my serve," Braasch said.

"I came out with a few hard ones, but not too much because then it's not fun anymore and it was supposed to be fun." -- Sapa-AP
 
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