The Silicon Trick

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So CJ and RKC are talking about the silicon trick in another thread. I honestly had never heard of it. But it makes me wonder where and when in the history of pool, gambling matches, exhibition matches, you name it, when it has been used. CJ stated it is used a lot by trick shot artists.

It just makes me wonder when else it could have been used when it would have made a huge difference.

CJ Wiley said:
I know the trick, and putting silicon on the table does make it play like a giant bar table.

As long as the players are informed about it, however they weren't in Tunica.

What about DCC, did the players know they wiped the 10' tables down with silicon? It takes time to get used to how the table plays, it doesn't make it roll off, but it does make the balls act unnaturally.

If anyone out there wants to beat the ghost on a tough table simply wipe it down with silicon, the table will play much, much, easier.

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I had heard of the trick shot method of wiping down the cue ball with silicone. I had never heard of wiping the cloth down with a silicone rag for regular (non trick shot) pool.

Edited to add: Never tried either one.
 
I've heard Ignacio Chavez was doing this, he'd put the cueball in his pocket in between racks and coat it with silicon.
 
cleary said:
I've heard Ignacio Chavez was doing this, he'd put the cueball in his pocket in between racks and coat it with silicon.
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Ive heard this too but i never quite heard how this would help him but not his opponent?

I dont even know what it does however. What does silicone do ?
 
silicone....

While silicone is much liked and legal for womans boobs what should happen to a pool player (non trick shot) if they were to get caught using silicone. In a match the player using silicone is aware of how the cue ball reacts and the incoming player has no idea.
 
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I tested it 15 years ago(had trickshot where had to use it).
It wears fast away but on club table you can make cueball behave like brand table with new clean ball.
Cushions play wide with it and spins are slicker.
Gambling purpose is probably put silicon on cueball so opponent does not know about it and can´t compensate.. who put silicon knows it and just adjust easily. :sorry:
 
watchez said:
So CJ and RKC are talking about the silicon trick in another thread. I honestly had never heard of it. But it makes me wonder where and when in the history of pool, gambling matches, exhibition matches, you name it, when it has been used. CJ stated it is used a lot by trick shot artists.

It just makes me wonder when else it could have been used when it would have made a huge difference.
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Here is a funny silicon story. We had been fooling around with it in the pool room doing trick shots and stuff and had a can behind the counter. There was a player in town a good player and he was coming around looking to play.

One night he comes in and we were fooling around betting on cutting a ball in froze to the bottom rail and the cue ball on the spot. You'll know the shot.

He comes in and chimes in and wants to bet on 5 shots to make the ball. Of course he is trying to hustle us because 5 shots is a lock for a good player. Since we had been fooling around with the silicon we get the idea to screw this guy on the shot.

I get another cue ball from behind the counter and give it a wipe with the silicon rag. Not much just a little. The first chance I got I switch cue balls.
He starts shooting the shot and he can't make it..

The silicon doesn't let the cue ball bite the rail enough to cut the ball in. It moves a foot of two but that is about it, never enough to get to the hole. He loses about $60.00 and quits in total frustration. When he quit he was dogging it so bad we didn't even need the silicon anymore.
 
they can be used to "trick" and get some "treats" if you know what I'm saying

wrldpro said:
While silicone is much liked and legal for womans boobs what should happen to a pool player (non trick shot) if they were to get caught using silicone. In a match the player using silicone is aware of how the cue ball reacts and the incoming player has no idea.
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Yes, I was going to play someone that specialized in the "silicon trick," so I had a trick shot artist silicon my home table. It took me three hours to adjust my game to the conditions. It changes the table completely, I had played on this table numerous times and it was like an entirely different table.

There are several tricks like this that I'm aware of like this, I never used them, however, we had to be aware of them to protect our money. I'm cautious about sharing them in public because they can be used to "trick" and get some "treats" if you know what I'm saying.;)
 
Armorall, sprayed on a rag, used to wipe the the cloth down on the cushions only, to break the effects of humidity cling from the cushions.
 
All you have to do is smell the cloth or the CB. It has a nasty smell and will FU your lungs. Johnnyt
 
any slick product or wax you put on the balls make them go slide faster.

thats why those products you wipe on the balls to clean them are popular as you can draw the ball better. as most leave some slick finish on them.
 
cleary said:
I've heard Ignacio Chavez was doing this, he'd put the cueball in his pocket in between racks and coat it with silicon.
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There was another pro who shared that trick with another pro, next thing you know pro #2 was dropping the cueball in his pocket and rubbing it around. I saw #2 do it in a tar match also.
I do not know why you would do it, but I lost respect for both of them!
Mark
 
I would guess that if the cloth is not wiped down and the person only puts it on the cue ball, a pro should know right away that something is not right.

Clean the cue ball with Pledge and see how different the cue ball reacts...
 
markmtbr said:
I would guess that if the cloth is not wiped down and the person only puts it on the cue ball, a pro should know right away that something is not right.

Clean the cue ball with Pledge and see how different the cue ball reacts...
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JR Calvert told me he was once in this out of the way spot playing the owner 8 ball, mismatched set of balls rough equipment and the 8 ball was so old and worn it had zero shine and was off color. He was on the 8 ball in a case game, forget the exact circumstance but he goes to the restroom. When he comes back to shoot the ball he misses big time and drives the ball into the rail. Turned out he owners wife seen the 8 ball was tarnished and she cleaned it with some Pledge.... Lol
 
I watched Chavez quite a few times. Never saw him put the cue in his pocket.

He did put wax on the grip of his cue stick, if I recall.
 
Besides using silicon on the CB and cloth they will also use a CB that is lighter than the regular balls. Trick shot artists are exactly that, same as a "magician" or card cheat using a doctored deck of cards. I read a article where there are more doctored card decks sold than regular cards. I find it hard to believe but I think that they are trying to say that stuff like that is readily available and are used more than you think.

When you see them balancing a ball on top of the other it is because there is a hole drilled thru ball so that the top ball has a place to set on and so it also doesn't roll on the cloth.

It is the same as the HR Derby for the all Star game. They use special balls that are more lively than regular balls and are specially marked to keep them from being used in a game. Was at a Tiger game after the All Star game was here and during batting practice the person in front of me got a ball that was hit into the stands. It was one of those balls that was left over.


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In my opinion, I don't see how anybody can watch trick shot magic on tv....its lame and prime example of how espn does no justice for pool... commercial.commercial.commercial.commercial come back three racks later to watch them miss a shot. Thanks ESPN
 
I've done the silicon trick once. Just to see how long I could make the cueball spin.

I tried playing 14.1 with a silicon ball afterwards... that was interesting.
 
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