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BobTfromIL

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My tip, Kamui medium.fell off while playing today. Tip is still good
and there isn't anything wrong with the shaft. I was thinking of using a little Gorilla glue to re-attach the tip. Is this ok to use or do I need something different?
 
I asked this once to the local cue repair man in my town, he advised me to install a new tip, and not bother glue/install back the old tip that fells off, for some reason that I can't remember.

then another thing that happened to me, is I've broken one of my shafts that I loved, then i bought another brand new shaft and I asked the guy to remove the tip from my old (broken) shaft to the new one, he said that its no good too. *Another cue-repair man*

so there's something to it.
 
Depending on how long ago it was installed, I'd go back to the person who installed it and say WTF?!?!?!?!

Brian
 
You can return the tip to Kamui , and they will send you a new one at no charge. For some reason this was a common problem with some Kamui tips.
 
If you just recently had it installed I suggest going back to that person and having him fix it. If he has any principles he will fix it free of charge. If he won't fix it free of charge I suggest you find someone else to install tips for you from now on.

You can re-attach it yourself, but I cannot guarantee it goes perfectly. First sand the glue off the bottom of the tip and shaft, apply a small amount of glue (enough to stick it together, but not enough to have any bleed out the sides), take a post-it-note and put it around your shaft so you can center the tip back on and put it together.

Like I said this may very well not work perfectly, but then again you may luck out.
 
The old Post It Note trick. I was going to mention that. Good stuff.
That works perfect for realigning a tip.
 
BobTfromIL said:
My tip, Kamui medium.fell off while playing today. Tip is still good
and there isn't anything wrong with the shaft. I was thinking of using a little Gorilla glue to re-attach the tip. Is this ok to use or do I need something different?
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Gorilla is a gap filler (expands) I'd prefer to use a Loctite 454 or other gel super glue.
 
tip fell off

Over the years I have put on many tips. I did it by eye before I owned a lathe. In the old days I used tweeten glue..... not so good. Now we have all varieties of CA and epoxy.

I put a new moori tip on a cue the other day. I used CA jell and sanded it well on the glue side. I faced off the ferrule and cleaned it. I was trimming the tip when it popped off while it was spinning in the lathe.

Never had that happen before. I resanded, cleaned, faced, and glued it again. It fell off while I was trimming it again,

That's it ....I resanded cleaned faced and glued it again but this time I used 5 min epoxy. Sometimes you need epoxy on break cues because of the ferrule material. It fell off again.

To the internet.... it seems that others have had the same problem with some brands of layered tips. The suggestion is to get everything ready and put some CA on the tip and let it dry. Then glue as usual and it will stick.

After the tip popped of for the 3rd time I didn't clean anything. I left the epoxy on the tip. I used some CA poly glue for delrin or other plastics. (Dr. Mike's formula 2 glue)

It's still on and working fine.

Go figure..... I will stick to Triangle tips.

Kim
 
BobTfromIL said:
My tip, Kamui medium.fell off while playing today. Tip is still good
and there isn't anything wrong with the shaft. I was thinking of using a little Gorilla glue to re-attach the tip. Is this ok to use or do I need something different?
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Gorilla will expand -- not so good.

Though some poo-poo it, use Tweeten's if you don't have a lathe. It is the one glue you'll be able to clean up off the sides and ferrule afterwards (it's water soluble). If you give it overnight to dry (yes, I know the tube says 10-minutes) you will not have a tip fall off with Tweeten's.

Lou Figueroa
 
I almost always use two part epoxy when installing tips. Also, since I'm not a business that cranks out many tips per day, I allow it to sit overnight. I only do them for friends -not really for profit, and less than ten per year. I have never lost a tip doing it this way. I've had one fall off when I was using the Loctite BlackMax glue so I went back to the twin tubed epoxy.
 
JolietJames said:
I almost always use two part epoxy when installing tips. Also, since I'm not a business that cranks out many tips per day, I allow it to sit overnight. I only do them for friends -not really for profit, and less than ten per year. I have never lost a tip doing it this way. I've had one fall off when I was using the Loctite BlackMax glue so I went back to the twin tubed epoxy.
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I gotta tell you, word for word this post could have been written by me. It was actually kinda weird reading it. I had to look at the sidebar and see who wrote it 'cause I would've sworn it was me. I like the 2-part epoxy because it dries hard as a rock but the outside always stays a little "tacky". I gotta believe that this "tackiness" is what is keeping our tips on and not popping off.

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
I gotta tell you, word for word this post could have been written by me. It was actually kinda weird reading it. I had to look at the sidebar and see who wrote it 'cause I would've sworn it was me. I like the 2-part epoxy because it dries hard as a rock but the outside always stays a little "tacky". I gotta believe that this "tackiness" is what is keeping our tips on and not popping off.

Maniac
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If your epoxy is still tacky on the outside, you are not mixing the proportions correctly. It should be hard after 30-40 minutes...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
If your epoxy is still tacky on the outside, you are not mixing the proportions correctly. It should be hard after 30-40 minutes...JER
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It is hard as a rock, just a slight bit of tackiness on the outer surface. I don't use the quick-drying epoxies. I mix it 50/50 and let the shaft/tip sit for 24 hours before shaping.
 
I'd never reinstall a tip that fell off for the simple reason, you'll never get it flush all around the ferrule.

I'm curious about glues, I've tried quite a few, I actually don't like the gels and found it interesting that they are recommended.

This is what I found to be the absolute best. Never had a tip come off with this stuff. Any others use this??

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1274161
 
asbani said:
I asked this once to the local cue repair man in my town, he advised me to install a new tip, and not bother glue/install back the old tip that fells off, for some reason that I can't remember.

then another thing that happened to me, is I've broken one of my shafts that I loved, then i bought another brand new shaft and I asked the guy to remove the tip from my old (broken) shaft to the new one, he said that its no good too. *Another cue-repair man*

so there's something to it.
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The tip is turned down and matched to the ferrule on your shaft and once it's done it's easier to put a new tip on and match it to your shaft than to try and put a used tip back on that's come off. The tip alignment is critical if you want the most out of your shaft.
 
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