It's a business, you have to run yourself like a business. Keep expenses inline with your income. It's doable but most people playing "for a living" don't know anything but playing pool, just saying.
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It's a business, you have to run yourself like a business. Keep expenses inline with your income. It's doable but most people playing "for a living" don't know anything but playing pool, just saying.
Wow - you just took it down a notch.
Do you have expenses to get to your job?
Do you eat every day you work?
Do you have a dry cleaning bill so you look presentable at work?
Did you pay for schooling or training so you could get a job?
Did you pay for a resume?
Let's add to it - do you pay taxes, social security, etc.
I could go on.
This b.s response that has been stated before by others and tap.tap.tap. by even more that you put up is so incorrect. (as friends we can agree to disagree)
I do have expenses to work. Tolls, parking, lunch, clothes, after school program for my child while I work. etc. The biggest difference is, I can have a bad day at work and still get my paycheck. I get paid to make things. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad, but either way I get paid. I understand there are expenses and my salary far outweighs the expenses.
You're a smart guy and maybe I'm just missing something here about tournament life.
I definitely disagree with your thoughts.
Self-employed people pay full Social Security tax, number one. I could go on, but I'll just leave it there. :grin-square:
Not to mention that some of those players got staked to go to or play in some of those tournaments and gave up 50-70% of what they won....
And let's not forget about the infamous savers. Most would be surprised, I guess, how many actually do savers in tournaments.
That is because being in congress is an actual "job". (i used that term loosly when talking about congress)
Most are on salary, and there are times they work until midnight to pass a bill. They are off the entire month of August with pay, though, and during an election year, well, I better not say anything more. :embarrassed2:
The point, though, is that the pool player doesn't get an income unless he wins. He could be stuck big time, even if he wins a tournament, which is usually the case. He doesn't get paid for showing up at a pool tournament like, say, a football player does.
Winning should be a prerequisite to making money in pool. That's not the issue. The issue is that winning a tournament doesn't pay enough.
The top tier players should be able to live well off of tournaments. The second tier players should be financially secure.
In other words only the best of the best should be making any real money. So kind of like it is now except they would be making more.
The top tier players should be able to live well off of tournaments. The second tier players should be financially secure.
In other words only the best of the best should be making any real money. So kind of like it is now except they would be making more.
Back on topic a little bit. I think it's cool that pool has two sides to it: the gambling side and the tournament side. Despite what some people might say I don't think liking one or the other has to be mutually exclusive. I definitely like both. I'm not much of a gambler, but there is definitely something cool about action. Tournaments have the best players duking it out in pressure packed short races. I'll watch a pool reality show about either or both. If we need the action side to draw people's interest then I'm all for it. Anything that raises interest in the game, keeps rooms from closing in my area or allows new ones to open I'm all for. Rising tide lifts all boats etc. Besides even though there might be camera crews there any reality tv show is still just theoretical at this point anyway.
This is a very cynical approach for a short term payoff probably setting pool back 50 years. Hows this bad boy image worked for pool so far? oh right it hasn't.
Sorta reminds me of Homer Simpson going back to college, you guys really are living in the past.
This is no way to bring long term structure and stability that can provide a career and an living for professional sportsman, it's reenforcing the stereotype and will be just like a three ring circus passing through town and all these threads about the death of pool will still be the topic of the day in ten years time on AZB and the worst part is the most talented players in the game won't make a nickle out of it.
This man knows how to manage sport
http://youtu.be/CaPWxMIs-W4
Sorta reminds me of Homer Simpson going back to college, you guys really are living in the past.
This is no way to bring long term structure and stability that can provide a career and an living for professional sportsman, it's reenforcing the stereotype and will be just like a three ring circus passing through town and all these threads about the death of pool will still be the topic of the day in ten years time on AZB and the worst part is the most talented players in the game won't make a nickle out of it.
This man knows how to manage sport
http://youtu.be/CaPWxMIs-W4
Correctalamundo! The Hustler was a gritty, dirty look at the life of a pool hustler and it created a renaissance in our sport. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but airing footage of real life gamblers getting down playing pool for high stakes may be the most beneficial thing that could happen for our sport today. Put a few of these type reality shows on TV and we could be booming again! Go for it Freddy! :thumbup2:
After thinking about this for a few days, this might benifit both the gamblers and the tournement guys. Here is my thought. First, it gets eyes on pool. A lot of eyes aren't on pool anymore. It shows the hardships pool players have because of no functioning tour like the PGA or tennis. It showcases the storylines that only guys like Shane make a lot in tournements and have to gamble as well. Maybe it gets those outside sponsors interested in putting up money for a small pro tour to see how it would work. It could help grow the pro game into what everyone wants, a real pro tour like golf and tennis. But that would be the "churched up" side of pool. The one where you dress and act like a pro. Where you do radio and tv spots to promote an event coming up. I wasn't sure about this when I first read it, but this might actually help both aspects of our game. Only time will tell.
I just hope there will be no dumping, drug use, robbing change machines, or selling of fake autographs on camera.
i agree 100% .. Show them the good in pool not the bad...shine the good light not the dead bolb.
I would contact Bill Simmons from Espn he is behind the 30 on 30 series. That shows some odd and sometimes forgotten but offbeat sides of sports. I am sure Freddy could come up with a solid story, or how about pitching the Johnson City tournaments that could be a huge story.
I hope you get some great footage Beard. Gambling, Woofing, Prop bets, Quarter flippers, 3 card monte all the good stuff:grin:
I hope you get some great footage Beard. Gambling, Woofing, Prop bets, Quarter flippers, 3 card monte all the good stuff:grin:
I wish good things would happen
I wish earl could make millions endorsing ass weights & earmuffs.
But, reguardless of what they film, or do not film, what they show or do not show, i don't think it will make a difference.
There just is not enough interest in pool as a spectator sport for anything big to happen.
Sad as that is, that is, the way it is.
SLIM
I wish earl could make millions endorsing ass weights & earmuffs.
But, reguardless of what they film, or do not film, what they show or do not show, i don't think it will make a difference.
There just is not enough interest in pool as a spectator sport for anything big to happen.
Sad as that is, that is, the way it is.
SLIM