Video of "The Shot" on The Action Report

[watchez]

How about we agree on where the cue ball needs to land, and I will fly out to LA with Chris Bartram and you can have action. Since you don't carry all of your money with you, Ill just bring a suitcase full and you can match it with an official bank check. McWhorter would probably dog it for 20k if he had to make it and get shape 9 out of 10 times. A true champion would not. McWhorter would have did the same thing and passed the shot back. The point he was trying to make was that the TD should have stopped it. Oh well, he didnt. It was still a great tournament. I just find it kind of funny that all the people on this forum love to run their mouth to Jamie about gambling. It sounds to me like he was one of the only people to bet decent at the whole tournament. I also saw a thread on the action report where he and Corey could not be any more direct about Corey playing Jesse Bowman with the 8 ball. All they had to do was post. It doesnt matter who Jesse's stakehore is, or how much money he has got. Believe me, Corey can get staked for about as much money as anyone in the world, so that is irrelevent. Corey was also supposed to play Danny Harriman an ahead set of one pocket. Harriman left town. Let me know if anyone wants to let a champion shoot that shot!

So now you want to substitute Chris Bartrum for McNugget. Gee, you have heart. Guess that is how you got your briefcase full of money. From what I know and have been told, McNugget-Mike Banks-Shane McMinn all play about the same speed. Does Bartrum fit into that group? Too bad McNugget & his playing speed didn't have the heart to play in the ring game. Maybe, he would've have come in third. Maybe he would have nutted up and been out by the first intermission. By the way, I had a piece of Banks & McMinn. Good shooting boys.

McNugget bet that the, no offense Mike Banks-as we are friends, worst player left in the tournament wouldn't win. Yep, heart. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the bet wasn't even real.

And the tournament director SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED IT. It is the players option to shoot or pass back. Whether he thinks he can get out or not. You and your boy McNugget are the ones that are delusional & just dont get it. The only time, in a ring game, that a player has to make an legitimate attempt is when it is HIS TURN at the table. It was not Shane's turn. It was his option. If you and McNugget can use multi syllable words like delusional then I am sure you know what the word 'option' means. What he did was smart. What McNugget, and now, you think is not.

 

[pokercartel1605]

Watchez, very well stated. I was glad to see the 2 "underdogs" in this tournament prevail w/first and 2nd. I have seen shane play many times, and sometimes ppl overlook the fact that he IS a 4 time JR. National champion. Glad you had a piece of both of those players. From what I've seen around the St. Louis area midwest tournaments, you always seem to know who is hot and who to purchase in the calcuttas. How's Justin doing? I was talking to Larry at the Rail last wknd, and he said Justin was supposed to b in there around wednesday or so. Haven't seen him play in quite awhile.

 

[jay helfert]

UR AN ABSOLUTE MONKEY..........THE SHOT ISNT THAT HARD AND ALL YOU MOTHRFKRS CAN BLOW ME ON HERE...........IF YOU WANNA BE DELUSIONAL AND SAY IT WAS A TOUGH SHOT AND HE SHOULD HAVE PASSED...I ASKED AND SHOWED THE SHOT TO 6 PLAYERS THIS WEEKEND THAT PLAY A GREAT GAME OF POOL AND THEY ALL SAID THEY WOULD HAVE SHOT IT ............NO WAY THEY WOULD HAVE PASSED EXCEPT IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE ORCULLO GOT PUT OUT OF THE TOURNEY...........


SO ALL U NITS ON HERE JUST SHUTUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP............

EXCUSE ME MCWOOF, IF IT'S SO DAMN EASY, WHY AREN'T YOU ON THE NEXT PLANE OUT HERE. I've got 20K sitting in a bag in my office waiting for you to pick it up.

I would also suggest you watch your language. Some people who read these posts (mods) might be offended by your choice of words. But maybe you are in the process of a major meltdown. Sure looks that way. In poker, we call it going on Tilt. How much did you blow gambling in Pittsburgh with those monkeys?

 

[jay helfert]

How about we agree on where the cue ball needs to land, and I will fly out to LA with Chris Bartram and you can have action. Since you don't carry all of your money with you, Ill just bring a suitcase full and you can match it with an official bank check. McWhorter would probably dog it for 20k if he had to make it and get shape 9 out of 10 times. A true champion would not. McWhorter would have did the same thing and passed the shot back. The point he was trying to make was that the TD should have stopped it. Oh well, he didnt. It was still a great tournament. I just find it kind of funny that all the people on this forum love to run their mouth to Jamie about gambling. It sounds to me like he was one of the only people to bet decent at the whole tournament. I also saw a thread on the action report where he and Corey could not be any more direct about Corey playing Jesse Bowman with the 8 ball. All they had to do was post. It doesnt matter who Jesse's stakehore is, or how much money he has got. Believe me, Corey can get staked for about as much money as anyone in the world, so that is irrelevent. Corey was also supposed to play Danny Harriman an ahead set of one pocket. Harriman left town. Let me know if anyone wants to let a champion shoot that shot!

Billy, I'm only going to say one thing to you, just so you don't confuse me with someone else. If you EVER hear me say BET, then it's a bet! I do not bluff or run my mouth to make noise. If I like something, I will bet on it. Always have and always will. And whether I win or lose, you will get no complaint out of me afterward.

Look, I don't KNOW for sure if McWoofer can make this shot 9 out of 10 or not. But I was willing to bet on it. And that's about it. If you would like to bring him out here and stake him that's fine with me. But he is the one shooting. No one else has this bet with me. Do we understand each other?

Thank you Billy. Have a nice day.

 

[Mr. Wilson]

Jay, I plonked him already.

Enough drama around here and he's too much.

For him to reply to you he'll need your email addy 'cause it won't be on the board.


Dave

 

[jay helfert]

Jay, I plonked him already.

Enough drama around here and he's too much.

For him to reply to you he'll need your email addy 'cause it won't be on the board.


Dave

Sorry about that. I posted a reply to his post #187 before I read your post #197.

 

[billychips]

i am not confused

Billy, I'm only going to say one thing to you, just so you don't confuse me with someone else. If you EVER hear me say BET, then it's a bet! I do not bluff or run my mouth to make noise. If I like something, I will bet on it. Always have and always will. And whether I win or lose, you will get no complaint out of me afterward.

Look, I don't KNOW for sure if McWoofer can make this shot 9 out of 10 or not. But I was willing to bet on it. And that's about it. If you would like to bring him out here and stake him that's fine with me. But he is the one shooting. No one else has this bet with me. Do we understand each other?

Thank you Billy. Have a nice day.

I am not confused at all. I have no doubt that you will bet against him making that shot 9 times out of 10. He might do it. He might not. However, he would have to make it 18 times out of 20 because you would go again. I don't like my odds. I think I will take a pass on your bet. I only stated that I would let Chris try it because the other poster said to bring his boys and let them try it. That sir, I would do. It was an easy shot for a great player. Period. End of story.McWhorter is not a great player, but I can promise you he is better than most of these clowns that bark on here, and he will also gamble it up. He has went "all in," and went broke more times than I can count. James Walden made a very similar post on the action report and nobody went crazy on him. Anyway, I'll pass on your offer, but I am sure we are going to make a game someday, it just seems we always like the same side. Makes me feel like a sharpie!

 

[bignasty]

hey chips

I am not confused at all. I have no doubt that you will bet against him making that shot 9 times out of 10. He might do it. He might not. However, he would have to make it 18 times out of 20 because you would go again. I don't like my odds. I think I will take a pass on your bet. I only stated that I would let Chris try it because the other poster said to bring his boys and let them try it. That sir, I would do. It was an easy shot for a great player. Period. End of story.McWhorter is not a great player, but I can promise you he is better than most of these clowns that bark on here, and he will also gamble it up. He has went "all in," and went broke more times than I can count. James Walden made a very similar post on the action report and nobody went crazy on him. Anyway, I'll pass on your offer, but I am sure we are going to make a game someday, it just seems we always like the same side. Makes me feel like a sharpie!

thats what i like to see, you and jay getting along! makes for good action down the road! and i will back up what chips says about jamie, he goes off,all in and off again when it comes to action! he isnt a bad guy! his people skills are a lil impatient at times! i get along with jamie and he is a great for action!
and in his defense billy did offer him a buy out when it was 19- 16 banks and jamie said no way im ridin it into the ground win or lose!

 

[billychips]

u obviously did not read my post

So now you want to substitute Chris Bartrum for McNugget. Gee, you have heart. Guess that is how you got your briefcase full of money. From what I know and have been told, McNugget-Mike Banks-Shane McMinn all play about the same speed. Does Bartrum fit into that group? Too bad McNugget & his playing speed didn't have the heart to play in the ring game. Maybe, he would've have come in third. Maybe he would have nutted up and been out by the first intermission. By the way, I had a piece of Banks & McMinn. Good shooting boys.

McNugget bet that the, no offense Mike Banks-as we are friends, worst player left in the tournament wouldn't win. Yep, heart. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the bet wasn't even real.

And the tournament director SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED IT. It is the players option to shoot or pass back. Whether he thinks he can get out or not. You and your boy McNugget are the ones that are delusional & just dont get it. The only time, in a ring game, that a player has to make an legitimate attempt is when it is HIS TURN at the table. It was not Shane's turn. It was his option. If you and McNugget can use multi syllable words like delusional then I am sure you know what the word 'option' means. What he did was smart. What McNugget, and now, you think is not.

I only suggested bringing Chris to shoot the shot because he is a great player, similar to the ones that were playing. Jamie probably won't make it and get shape for 20k, but a great player will. That is all I am saying. I could honestly care less if they passed the shot or not. Do you think Shane would have shot it in the early rounds of the tourney or if he were "short stacked"? Didnt think so. I am just sick of people coming on this forum and running their mouths about what they are going to do and who they are going to bet on and then doing nothing. McWhorter might be a "monkey," but unlike 99% of the members here, he will gamble, not just talk about it. Also, i can assure you his bet with Incardona was real. It was all his, 7 to win 2. You say that isn't heart? he was booking Billy Incardona, who doesnt just give his money away. You should give the kid credit for betting a large percentage of his bankroll at the tourney. It created action and made a great tourney even more interesting. Also, if you think McWhorter plays close to Shane McMinn and Mike Banks Jr. you need to get a new source. You are probably costing yourself money.

 

[vin]

its either PUT UP or SHUT UP nuff said.

 

[billychips]

i never said he did

Well from what I know about being around the midwest and money matches w/pool, jesse bowman has NEVER dodged neone for action, and has always been good for his money! How much are you talking about posting? If that is the only problem w/him and Corey playing, DAMN, I can post half of whatever he is playing for. Up to 20g's. Hit me up w/a PM.

I never said that Jesse dodged anyone. He wanted Corey to go to Vegas. Corey wanted to post 5k as no show money. Its pretty simple, and its on tape. I wasnt flying to Vegas hoping we can get down with Bowman. If you wanna put up some money, let me know. Ill put up Corey the same day. For everybody that thinks that we are demanding money to be posted as an excuse not to play, its simply an ignorant statement. I cant speak for Corey, but I know that I have better things to do with my time than fly to Vegas trying to negotiate a pool game. Too many times the game never happens. I am sure all the true gamblers on here will agree. I also could care less how much money his backer has. It isnt like Corey is going o firing peanuts at the guy. Hell, the original post that McWhorter started stipulated that Corey would play anyone in Ohio or florida. Then jamie popped his big mouth off and offered the 8. You would think these champions would be piling in the car to come and get some.

 

[The Saw]

So now you want to substitute Chris Bartrum for McNugget. Gee, you have heart. Guess that is how you got your briefcase full of money. From what I know and have been told, McNugget-Mike Banks-Shane McMinn all play about the same speed. Does Bartrum fit into that group? Too bad McNugget & his playing speed didn't have the heart to play in the ring game. Maybe, he would've have come in third. Maybe he would have nutted up and been out by the first intermission. By the way, I had a piece of Banks & McMinn. Good shooting boys.

McNugget bet that the, no offense Mike Banks-as we are friends, worst player left in the tournament wouldn't win. Yep, heart. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the bet wasn't even real.

Whover gave you the line on McWhorter needs to retire from handicapping, he only plays the 6 ball under Shane and Mike. If anyone thinks different they are completely off the air........ If the shot in question is so tough to make and get shape on, the why won't Jay let Ray stake Chris to come to LA and get the money? Shane and Mike play Chris' speed so whats the problem if it's everyones contention here that NO PLAYER has a reasonable shot at consistently making the one and getting shape on the two? Because it is an easy scenario for a pro calibre player to execute, that's why.... Jamie doesn't have heart? That's a laugh! As I said, he plays the 6 ball under pretty much everyone in the field, so for him to throw $3,000 out to play in the ring game would be insanity, not lack of heart. Why don't you just follow Jamie around for a month and put your money in every spot that Jamie puts his in and then tell me he doesn't have any heart! You would need a defibrillator and a syringe full of adrenanline on hand to keep from going into cardiac arrest...............

Saw

 

[billychips]

Jamie reminds me of Huwe

Whover gave you the line on McWhorter needs to retire from handicapping, he only plays the 6 ball under Shane and Mike. If anyone thinks different they are completely off the air........ If the shot in question is so tough to make and get shape on, the why won't Jay let Ray stake Chris to come to LA and get the money? Shane and Mike play Chris' speed so whats the problem if it's everyones contention here that NO PLAYER has a reasonable shot at consistently making the one and getting shape on the two? Because it is an easy scenario for a pro calibre player to execute, that's why.... Jamie doesn't have heart? That's a laugh! As I said, he plays the 6 ball under pretty much everyone in the field, so for him to throw $3,000 out to play in the ring game would be insanity, not lack of heart. Why don't you just follow Jamie around for a month and put your money in every spot that Jamie puts his in and then tell me he doesn't have any heart! You would need a defibrillator and a syringe full of adrenanline on hand to keep from going into cardiac arrest...............

You know Kirk, jamie kind of reminds me of your boy Dave Huwe, only with a better job. He is making good money now, so Chillicothe freaking Ohio should be one of the best action spots in the country pretty soon. Wait til the word gets out that the kid has about a one percent chance of booking a winner, and the line will start forming. I just wish that if you posted on here about a bet, it was considered a formal contract, because there are a lot of people that pop off at the mouth, with nothing but hot air comin out.

 

[BVal]

I can't believe this thread is still going.

BVal

 

[The Saw]

Dave Huwe........ Just hearing that name makes me want to cry! My top customer of all time. He and Refeld were a dream to accomodate! They would blow up all three #'s begging me to come play, those were the days....

Saw

 

[billychips]

he was everybody's customer

Dave Huwe........ Just hearing that name makes me want to cry! My top customer of all time. He and Refeld were a dream to accomodate! They would blow up all three #'s begging me to come play, those were the days....

Saw

Did you know that before he moved to columbus, Huwe used to go OFF to Awni once a month for every cent. He would then disappear for a month, work 75 hours a week, and do it all over again. Awni would then go off to me or Max. Those were the days! I got a good one for you, McWhorter was about 15 or 16, and him and Randy Refeld tried to cut me up in a 3 handed tonk game. I busted both of them, which reminds me, Jamie still owes me a few hundred.

 

[The Saw]

Did you know that before he moved to columbus, Huwe used to go OFF to Awni once a month for every cent. He would then disappear for a month, work 75 hours a week, and do it all over again. Awni would then go off to me or Max. Those were the days! I got a good one for you, McWhorter was about 15 or 16, and him and Randy Refeld tried to cut me up in a 3 handed tonk game. I busted both of them, which reminds me, Jamie still owes me a few hundred.

I caught Huwe when he was blowing his trust fund. Sweet....... Refeld was just as bad, he would ship it all on Huwe every single time. Priceless..... And they are both dealing poker in casinos donating it all there now. Tragedy.... Call me you jack!

Saw

 

[KSgirl]

I was there...

I was there (but not for the finals, I work for a living ) and in the first round, MB Jr. was on the table with Parika and Matlock and was out from everywhere! At one point, Parika looked over at Matlock and said - and I quote - "this kid is kicking our a$$! and then they smiled". At another point Parika was sitting in his chair with his leg hanging over the arm and his head in his hands about to fall asleep while Jr. was out from everywhere. Jr. plays very well. Shooters ran a mock 10-ball ring game a couple weeks before this tourney and I heard Banks ran away with it! Jr. & McMinn both played VERY well in this tournament. I hope none of this gives a black-eye to McMinn or Jr.'s reputation.

Not that anything I say matters, just wanted to add that little piece of info. Not many people were close enough to hear that comment Parika made to Matlock.

 

[watchez]

Whover gave you the line on McWhorter needs to retire from handicapping, he only plays the 6 ball under Shane and Mike. If anyone thinks different they are completely off the air........ If the shot in question is so tough to make and get shape on, the why won't Jay let Ray stake Chris to come to LA and get the money? Shane and Mike play Chris' speed so whats the problem if it's everyones contention here that NO PLAYER has a reasonable shot at consistently making the one and getting shape on the two? Because it is an easy scenario for a pro calibre player to execute, that's why.... Jamie doesn't have heart? That's a laugh! As I said, he plays the 6 ball under pretty much everyone in the field, so for him to throw $3,000 out to play in the ring game would be insanity, not lack of heart. Why don't you just follow Jamie around for a month and put your money in every spot that Jamie puts his in and then tell me he doesn't have any heart! You would need a defibrillator and a syringe full of adrenanline on hand to keep from going into cardiac arrest...............

You know Kirk, jamie kind of reminds me of your boy Dave Huwe, only with a better job. He is making good money now, so Chillicothe freaking Ohio should be one of the best action spots in the country pretty soon. Wait til the word gets out that the kid has about a one percent chance of booking a winner, and the line will start forming. I just wish that if you posted on here about a bet, it was considered a formal contract, because there are a lot of people that pop off at the mouth, with nothing but hot air comin out.

The 6 Ball ??? Too bad McNugget doesn't seem trustworthy or he could get backed at that game. You could stake the other side & have your pick of Banks or McMinn. You boys are now sounding like the monkeys. The person I got the info from is very reliable & very close to McNugget. Would have no reason to lie to me, as you do. Why would someone tell me that McNugget plays 4 balls better than you say? Yeah, ok.

And, since you keep bringing it up--again, I gamble more in a month than McNugget & you do together in a year. Also, there is another delusional line of thinking that pool players have that you brought up about McNugget. Just because you go busted, doesn't show that you have heart. In my mind, it shows stupidity. Thankfully, there are guys out there that can't realize this & keep coming back for more--well at least for more with their $7000 bankroll in their pocket.

We have a guy here in town that likes to play races to 7 for 30 bags of sand. Funny, you, McNugget, Corey have never come to try to get some. Bartrum, who 95% of the time shows heart, did.

 

[jay helfert]

Whover gave you the line on McWhorter needs to retire from handicapping, he only plays the 6 ball under Shane and Mike. If anyone thinks different they are completely off the air........ If the shot in question is so tough to make and get shape on, the why won't Jay let Ray stake Chris to come to LA and get the money? Shane and Mike play Chris' speed so whats the problem if it's everyones contention here that NO PLAYER has a reasonable shot at consistently making the one and getting shape on the two? Because it is an easy scenario for a pro calibre player to execute, that's why.... Jamie doesn't have heart? That's a laugh! As I said, he plays the 6 ball under pretty much everyone in the field, so for him to throw $3,000 out to play in the ring game would be insanity, not lack of heart. Why don't you just follow Jamie around for a month and put your money in every spot that Jamie puts his in and then tell me he doesn't have any heart! You would need a defibrillator and a syringe full of adrenanline on hand to keep from going into cardiac arrest...............

You know Kirk, jamie kind of reminds me of your boy Dave Huwe, only with a better job. He is making good money now, so Chillicothe freaking Ohio should be one of the best action spots in the country pretty soon. Wait til the word gets out that the kid has about a one percent chance of booking a winner, and the line will start forming. I just wish that if you posted on here about a bet, it was considered a formal contract, because there are a lot of people that pop off at the mouth, with nothing but hot air comin out.

ME TOO!