What is more important when buying Cues and Cases who built it or who signed it!!!
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Craig, there is no point in arguing with JB Cases. Its like arguing with my beagle, he will bark and bark, but in the end, he just doesnt understand what people say.I think if a product has a logo, it doesnt have to be made by a certain person, but if its signed, it should be made by the person holding the pen. Signing someone elses work is like plagerism if you ask me, but thats just my opinion.
Joe
Joe you win the best post to this thread nothing could be more true!!!!!!
D I think if a product has a logo, it doesnt have to be made by a certain person, but if its signed, it should be made by the person holding the pen. Signing someone elses work is like plagerism if you ask me, but thats just my opinion.
Thanks Joe
John that is only in the USA, the Reason US Companies are setting up Business in China, including yourself is because in China if you pay peanuts you get Skilled People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now there is nothing wrong with it, it's Capitalism at it's finest, but until you pay these people at least the American minimum wage for their hard work don't act like your their savor!!!
Now argue that fact John, tell everyone that is not true.
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dave sutton
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cost of living is different everywhere. that shouldnt be an issue. each state has its own min wage requirement right?
John that is only in the USA, the Reason US Companies are setting up Business in China, including yourself is because in China if you pay peanuts you get Skilled People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now argue that fact John, tell everyone that is not true.
manwon I think you a 33% correct, but many Americans do not want to work in factory jobs any longer, kids today don't seem to want to start at the bottom.
I know you are U.S. Army Retired, and had over 20 years plus on Active duty in the Army. honestly was the work ethic of the soldiers when you joined up or were drafted the same as the year you retired?
I know several Senior USAF NCO who are stationed down the road from me who complain about the "New" Airmen who have no work ethic, and want to do 8 hours, and go home to watch TV. These Sr. NCO's are responsible for keep the F-16 Flying, and Not Crashing due to maintenance failures.
The "New" Airman what what the Recruiter told them 8 hour shift, a great place to live, great food, and bennies.
That's funny
I was a "New" Airman, 1 Feb 76. The same quote "no work ethic" etc. applied then as now. We were told great food and great place to live, 8 hour shifts etc.. The Recruiters lied just as well back then as they do now. You're joining the fricking service no matter which branch. You are serving your country and putting it all on the line. Whether it's 1909 or 2009. "You sell your soul to the company store". No less no more. As for no one wanting to start at the bottom,the country still needs ditch diggers. With Obambas plan ditch diggers are going to make big $$$.
Glen
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Well when I was young I was not too good to do any work offer for GREEN, I wash dishes, bussed Table, clean machinery in a machine shop, did janitorial work, hell in Jr. High School I was dishes in exchange for lunch, and other wise would have not had lunch. I thought that job was great at I got 60 CENT Food Credit EACH DAY!
I have a step grandson who could get a job tomorrow at the Movies but he refuses to take that job because he don't want to be seen by his friend working there.
I honestly do not see the problem of being seen working, except he would have money to spend. but than he has it now as his parent give him stuff, and money to spend.
The Poll question is confusing, it sounds like this: "Do you like sun or rain?" with the options of yes, sometimes, no etc..... Not sure how to answer that one.
No prtoblem and your not alone, I am kinda confused and I made the dam thing, next time I will make things more clear.
Thanks for your post.
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OK!
Well, I feel I might be sticking my finger in the fan here, but here's my 2 cents and why...
Several years ago I had Joss (east) make me a cue. I assumed Dan would be making it, because he was supposed to sign it when it was completed.
In one of the many phone conversations (did not have the Internet yet myself) I learned that his son Steve would be making the cue. So, I had Steve sign it.
Steve was taken aback by that request, as apparently I was the first one to ask for him to sign it.
I said "If you are making it, you should sign it." Dan made great cues a long time ago. I have a Joss now (but that custom is long gone). The current Joss east is not what an old Dan Janes was, that much is for sure.
They strayed too far from the pure spirit of the crafted cue.
The cue I got was fine- great player with a sold hit. I was a bit put off by the fact that I had ordered a 59" cue and was delivered a 60" cue. That detail is one that should not have been overlooked in my opinion. I had Paul Drexler cut one of the shafts 1/2 inch and put another Ivory ferrule on it, and I cut 1/2 inch off the butt cap. Fixed.
When one person has responsibility for the entire process (even if he does not do all the work himself) I feel the final product quality speaks for itself.
Well, I feel I might be sticking my finger in the fan here, but here's my 2 cents and why...
Several years ago I had Joss (east) make me a cue. I assumed Dan would be making it, because he was supposed to sign it when it was completed.
In one of the many phone conversations (did not have the Internet yet myself) I learned that his son Steve would be making the cue. So, I had Steve sign it.
Steve was taken aback by that request, as apparently I was the first one to ask for him to sign it.
I said "If you are making it, you should sign it." Dan made great cues a long time ago. I have a Joss now (but that custom is long gone). The current Joss east is not what an old Dan Janes was, that much is for sure.
They strayed too far from the pure spirit of the crafted cue.
The cue I got was fine- great player with a sold hit. I was a bit put off by the fact that I had ordered a 59" cue and was delivered a 60" cue. That detail is one that should not have been overlooked in my opinion. I had Paul Drexler cut one of the shafts 1/2 inch and put another Ivory ferrule on it, and I cut 1/2 inch off the butt cap. Fixed.
When one person has responsibility for the entire process (even if he does not do all the work himself) I feel the final product quality speaks for itself.
I think this was a well thought out and intelligent Post, I think you can keep your fingers for now!!
Thanks for your Post!
i think the times when americans didn't want to work in factories has come and gone. people're so hurt for work they'll take what ever they can find
to keep my post on topic i think it shouldn't matter as long as the customer is happy with what he paid for.
i guess resale could be an issue though. i ran into a cue a few years ago that played great and looked great. but because nobody knew who made it i doubt if i tried to sell it on here i'd get more than 600 for it. i guess when it comes to resale a name could be important
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Well, I've never heard even a rumor about Jim White working on Mottey's cues but, if it did happen, I wouldn't be too miffed about it. I mean c'mon, Jim is established well enough by now that his work is golden.
MULLY
I say this because I own Mottey cues and JMW's.
MULLY
I say this because I own Mottey cues and JMW's.