Where Diamond Stands

Greg/Diamond

Greg/Diamond

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Ironman Says:
IMO, the one who could really speak loudly and put things in a REAL perspective is Diamond Products. If the IPT were to announce a schedule {which I doubt ever happens} would Diamond still want to be a part of it.
I'm curious as to where Diamond stands?

Answer for Ironman:

In pool terms:

Diamond matched up with the IPT and agreed to play for 2 years....... There were good times as well as some scratches, miscues and bad hits along the way, but the game was still on……Until an air barrel was fired…....Now the IPT has the rack in it’s hand, saying the game is not over! ...... All I can say is Diamond won’t be the one to pull up! ........This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play. ........ First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated......... Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!


{I'll explain later how all future promoters could and need to POST}

Greg/Diamond
 
Thank you, Greg, for sharing your thoughts and perspectives.

As importantly, thanks for everything you and Diamond do for our sport. You and your company are indisputable role models in the pool industry.
 
Greg/Diamond said:
Ironman Says:
IMO, the one who could really speak loudly and put things in a REAL perspective is Diamond Products. If the IPT were to announce a schedule {which I doubt ever happens} would Diamond still want to be a part of it.
I'm curious as to where Diamond stands?

Answer for Ironman:

In pool terms:

Diamond matched up with the IPT and agreed to play for 2 years....... There were good times as well as some scratches, miscues and bad hits along the way, but the game was still on……Until an air barrel was fired…....Now the IPT has the rack in it’s hand, saying the game is not over! ...... All I can say is Diamond won’t be the one to pull up! ........This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play. ........ First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated......... Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!


{I'll explain later how all future promoters could and need to POST}

Greg/Diamond
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Hi Greg... thanks for your post and insight. I doubt that you would remember me. we have met a few times at different tournaments. The last being the US Open a couple of years ago. I believe you stopped by our annual Billiards Digest CCB tournament at the Open. I believe you were with Mr Ponazzo from B.D.......................mike
 
Glad to hear your position Greg.

Martin


Greg/Diamond said:
Ironman Says:
IMO, the one who could really speak loudly and put things in a REAL perspective is Diamond Products. If the IPT were to announce a schedule {which I doubt ever happens} would Diamond still want to be a part of it.
I'm curious as to where Diamond stands?

Answer for Ironman:

In pool terms:

Diamond matched up with the IPT and agreed to play for 2 years....... There were good times as well as some scratches, miscues and bad hits along the way, but the game was still on……Until an air barrel was fired…....Now the IPT has the rack in it’s hand, saying the game is not over! ...... All I can say is Diamond won’t be the one to pull up! ........This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play. ........ First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated......... Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!


{I'll explain later how all future promoters could and need to POST}

Greg/Diamond
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Greg/Diamond said:
Ironman Says:
IMO, the one who could really speak loudly and put things in a REAL perspective is Diamond Products. If the IPT were to announce a schedule {which I doubt ever happens} would Diamond still want to be a part of it.
I'm curious as to where Diamond stands?

Answer for Ironman:

In pool terms:

Diamond matched up with the IPT and agreed to play for 2 years....... There were good times as well as some scratches, miscues and bad hits along the way, but the game was still on……Until an air barrel was fired…....Now the IPT has the rack in it’s hand, saying the game is not over! ...... All I can say is Diamond won’t be the one to pull up! ........This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play. ........ First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated......... Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!


{I'll explain later how all future promoters could and need to POST}

Greg/Diamond
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Thank you for your response Greg.

Let me see if I have translated your "pool speak" correctly.

Your firm, Diamond Products, has some form of an existing, two year agreement with Kevin Trudeau and the IPT.

Although things weren't perfect, Diamond Products felt that they were acceptable until the IPT failed to pay the players the prize money.

Your firm also believes that this is a once in a lifetime business opportunity, and is ready to continue the relationship with Kevin Trudeau and the IPT provided that he pays the players in full, as he has promised.

You also "suggest", not require, that the any future prize money be "posted", by that I imagine that you mean placed in escrow.

Clearly, if the IPT became successful the potential business for Diamond would be very significant, so your reluctance to walk away from the likes of Kevin Trudeau is somewhat understandable. And your requirement that the players be paid in full before you agree to continue the relationship shows some concern for the players and fans, as well as an understanding of pr damage control.

Although some may question the choice to continue having any relationship with Kevin Trudeau whatsoever, the decision is entirely yours and the players to make.

Jim
 
jimmyg - I think when he said POST he was referring to posting comments on this board rather than talking about the mail.
 
Greg/Diamond said:
Ironman Says:
IMO, the one who could really speak loudly and put things in a REAL perspective is Diamond Products. If the IPT were to announce a schedule {which I doubt ever happens} would Diamond still want to be a part of it.
I'm curious as to where Diamond stands?

Answer for Ironman:

In pool terms:

Diamond matched up with the IPT and agreed to play for 2 years....... There were good times as well as some scratches, miscues and bad hits along the way, but the game was still on……Until an air barrel was fired…....Now the IPT has the rack in it’s hand, saying the game is not over! ...... All I can say is Diamond won’t be the one to pull up! ........This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play. ........ First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated......... Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!


{I'll explain later how all future promoters could and need to POST}

Greg/Diamond
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Thanks for the reply. Surprised, yes I am, but happy you did.
I hope everything works out well for Diamond and it's ownership. I SUSPECT you have had your expense through this whole ordeal and I really hope it pays off for you in the long run. Diamond has been very supportive of the sport over the years and brings us fine product to play on.
Your conditions for continuation on the IPT are sweet and to the point. I now have more respect for you than even before.
Best wishes to you and Diamond.
Lewis Jones
 
Greg/Diamond said:
Ironman Says:
IMO, the one who could really speak loudly and put things in a REAL perspective is Diamond Products. If the IPT were to announce a schedule {which I doubt ever happens} would Diamond still want to be a part of it.
I'm curious as to where Diamond stands?

Answer for Ironman:

In pool terms:

Diamond matched up with the IPT and agreed to play for 2 years....... There were good times as well as some scratches, miscues and bad hits along the way, but the game was still on……Until an air barrel was fired…....Now the IPT has the rack in it’s hand, saying the game is not over! ...... All I can say is Diamond won’t be the one to pull up! ........This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play. ........ First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated......... Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!


{I'll explain later how all future promoters could and need to POST}

Greg/Diamond
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ah like the way he talks.

and i like the way he thinks. thanks greg we needed this around here.
M.C.
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Riggers said:
jimmyg - I think when he said POST he was referring to posting comments on this board rather than talking about the mail.
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Riggers, I think -- and I may be wrong -- that what Greg/Diamond is referring to with the word "post" is not the mail or adding a post to an IPT thread.

Another time I have heard the word post is at the horse racetracks when the announcer says, "It's post time."

One other meaning, though, of the synonym "post" in pool jargon means to have the monies available up front, in full view, before the game begins. Some players put the monies on top of the overhead light. Others, at least on one rare occasion, place the monies underneath the table, though this is ill-advised. Ask Liljon. :o

Some players will have a neutral party hold the post monies before the games begin. Financially speaking, to post means placing the monies in escrow.

JAM
 
JAM said:
Riggers, I think -- and I may be wrong -- that what Greg/Diamond is referring to with the word "post" is not the mail or adding a post to an IPT thread.


JAM
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From Gregs perspective, I understood the read, "post" to mean the IPT should post here on the forum keeping us up to speed. I couldn't fully understand your above statement could you reiterate it? thx
 
Island Drive said:
From Gregs perspective, I understood the read, "post" to mean the IPT should post here on the forum keeping us up to speed. I couldn't fully understand your above statement could you reiterate it? thx
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Sure. This is only my opinion, Island Drive, but here is how I comprehended Greg/Diamond's words.

Greg/Diamond said:
...In pool terms:...This is the most we’ve ever played for as well as a potential life long dream come true. We’re ready to break the balls and continue the game, but 2 things need to happen for Diamond to play...First, the Players must be paid in Full as the IPT has stated...Second, (this is my opinion and it’s only a suggestion to those involved), the IPT needs to POST in order to continue and stop the Bleeding!!
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Actually, I never realized how many meanings there are with the word "post" until this thread. :p

In pool terms, though, "post" means put the monies up front before the game begins.

In financial terms, this means escrow.

JMHO, FWIW.

JAM
 
Post the money and stop the bleeding of the money. Greg was clear. I think Jam got it right.:)

In an analogy to pool, posting is a refererence to putting up money before you play anymore, especially after an air barrel has been fired.
 
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JAM said:
In pool terms, though, "post" means put the monies up front before the game begins.

In financial terms, this means escrow.

JMHO, FWIW.

JAM
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Agreed. I never took it to mean anything else.

Steve
 
JAM said:
Sure. This is only my opinion, Island Drive, but here is how I comprehended Greg/Diamond's words.



Actually, I never realized how many meanings there are with the word "post" until this thread. :p

In pool terms, though, "post" means put the monies up front before the game begins.

In financial terms, this means escrow.

JMHO, FWIW.

JAM
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Yeah, (post/escrow) that makes sense, thx.
Its nice to get a NORMAL response to my question, where others respond to my question in such different "light".
 
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Colin Colenso said:
Well said Greg and your stance will be widely supported!

Colin
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Nicely said, ......................End of Post with that comment eh?:)
 
Greg,

Thank you for all you have done for pool.

We all want pool to succeed, and we all want pool players to make a good living.

Let's hope this will come true in the near future.

Best wishes,
Richard
 
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