Worlds Greatest Player vs. the Peoples Champion

KoolKat9Lives said:
Nuh uh Jay. Here's the offer, quoted from billychips.

"I will give up 3-1 on the money and take Shane. If Shane loses, I pay off and if Shane plays the second set on the nine footer, I get to bet the same amount and the second time I will lay 6-1."

If you bet $100 on Earl and win, you're up $300. Earl must play again on a 9'er if Shane wants it. Then billychips bets the same amount, which is $300. This is where it's not clear to me. If he's betting $300 and laying 6:1, then he's going up against $50. But he may mean he's putting up $1800 to $300, that's why I asked a couple posts ago.

It's not clear to me.
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According to the above he would be laying 3-1 on the first $100 bet and 6-1 on the same bet ($100) the second time. It is a little unclear if he wants to bet $300 (the amount he lost on the first bet) the second time and risk losing $1,800. I'm not sure even Billy knows what he means. :D
 
Following up on my 5x10 comment RE: Don Brink...

I spoke with Don Brink, former rack boy at Kling & Allen in KCMO. SVB didn't practice at Raytown Rec or on a 5x10 there. Don saw him practicing in Olathe at Shooter's on a tight 9' table and Shane was "firing them in," which prompted Don's comment about SVB's accuracy. I have the original gold-leaf-on-glass sign from Kling & Allen:

KLING'S BILLIARDS
JOHN KLING
and
BENNIE ALLEN
prop's

.... and Mr. Brink authenticated it for me on videotape twice, once with Randy Davis there. PROVENANCE! He knows a lot about billiard history and anyone who is around KCMO should stop in and play at his place, Raytown Recreation..... and before you do, you should call him to make sure he will be there to chat with.... you'll be glad you did brothers. He'll tell you about what he thinks of SVB vs. all the greats he has seen...
 
I think people are making way too big of a deal about Shane's break. Yes, Shane breaks better today than Earl. But, he ALSO (IMO), runs balls better, shoots straighter, has a better cue ball, better safety game, better attitude, better everything. In other words, he is better all around, not just in the break. Its like when he played Corey. He outplayed him in ALL aspects of the game, not just on the break. That is why he won so convincingly.

The 10' table with tight pocket will make these skill differences even MORE apparent between the two players. Earls best chance of beating Shane TODAY is on a barbox with 6 inch pockets.

I do think Earl in his prime would win this match on a 10', but that is not the match we are going to see happen this year.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I think people are making way too big of a deal about Shane's break. Yes, Shane breaks better today than Earl. But, he ALSO (IMO), runs balls better, shoots straighter, has a better cue ball, better safety game, better attitude, better everything. In other words, he is better all around, not just in the break. Its like when he played Corey. He outplayed him in ALL aspects of the game, not just on the break. That is why he won so convincingly.

The 10' table with tight pocket will make these skill differences even MORE apparent between the two players. Earls best chance of beating Shane TODAY is on a barbox with 6 inch pockets.

I do think Earl in his prime would win this match on a 10', but that is not the match we are going to see happen this year.
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I think we are going to see an ass woopin.
 
real bartram said:
what does it mean?
you asked ok
tony watson makes the game look easy
he has no chance vs ralf souqet
thats what i mean.
how did earl do the lat time he gambled with svb?
someone said they played did they?
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Tony does or at least did make the game look easy.
1st time I seen him was about 12 or so years ago.
He was amazing to watch on the BB
 
gulyassy said:
One stipulation is that the player that loses has the option to play another race the very next weekend on a 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond. This will be live streamed and taped for DVD sales. Now were talking.
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Will the second set be on ppv if earl wins?
 
iusedtoberich said:
I think people are making way too big of a deal about Shane's break. Yes, Shane breaks better today than Earl. But, he ALSO (IMO), runs balls better, shoots straighter, has a better cue ball, better safety game, better attitude, better everything. In other words, he is better all around, not just in the break. Its like when he played Corey. He outplayed him in ALL aspects of the game, not just on the break. That is why he won so convincingly.

The 10' table with tight pocket will make these skill differences even MORE apparent between the two players. Earls best chance of beating Shane TODAY is on a barbox with 6 inch pockets.

I do think Earl in his prime would win this match on a 10', but that is not the match we are going to see happen this year.
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:-) Leave the predictions to Miss Cleo.
 
I had Earl favourite before the match started. 10ft different game and earls all round game and power stroke Hugh diff.
 
gulyassy said:
Here we go. Earl will play SVB on a 5x10 Diamond, 10 ball, race to 100 in 3 days. They will play at Ice Breakers Billiards in Youngstown Ohio sometime in February, probably the 11th, actual date will be published next week. The rules are 6 inch break box, call shot with the option, 10 ball last and a 40 second shot clock with a referee. The original professional table will be the battle field, a 5x10. Now lets see who the greatest player is. One stipulation is that the player that loses has the option to play another race the very next weekend on a 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond. This will be live streamed and taped for DVD sales. Now were talking.
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Sounded like Earl backed out of that rematch on the 4X9?? Kinda $hitty if in fact, that was the deal. :confused:
 
Shane is a class act. He didn't get to where he is by being a quitter. I would like to say to him, don't let this loss get you down. All the greats in every sport have losses. It's how you deal with them that determines your future. You have a long, long career ahead of you... and the best 10-ball break in the game.
 
richiebalto said:
I give classy gulyassy,pool room owner, and earl all the credit in the world,takeing on the best money player in the world at this moment,iam pulling for team classy,thats a helluva mountain to try to climb,but atlease you guys are trying it.i think earl has to take control of the game very early,open up a lead and hang on,dont forget guys earl runs 5 miles a day,that right there will have him more than ready for this long match,if he really does all that running every day,his endurance has to be incredable,so if he can open up a good early lead,i just think he will hold on!
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Dam this sounds like he knew what he was talking about!even earl said after the match that earls endurance made him a winner.
 
richiebalto said:
I give classy gulyassy,pool room owner, and earl all the credit in the world,takeing on the best money player in the world at this moment,iam pulling for team classy,thats a helluva mountain to try to climb,but atlease you guys are trying it.i think earl has to take control of the game very early,open up a lead and hang on,dont forget guys earl runs 5 miles a day,that right there will have him more than ready for this long match,if he really does all that running every day,his endurance has to be incredable,so if he can open up a good early lead,i just think he will hold on!
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Damn thats like if someone walks up to u tomorrow and tells you your future would you believe them?

I hate smart people!
 
iusedtoberich said:
I think people are making way too big of a deal about Shane's break. Yes, Shane breaks better today than Earl. But, he ALSO (IMO), runs balls better, shoots straighter, has a better cue ball, better safety game, better attitude, better everything. In other words, he is better all around, not just in the break. Its like when he played Corey. He outplayed him in ALL aspects of the game, not just on the break. That is why he won so convincingly.

The 10' table with tight pocket will make these skill differences even MORE apparent between the two players. Earls best chance of beating Shane TODAY is on a barbox with 6 inch pockets.

I do think Earl in his prime would win this match on a 10', but that is not the match we are going to see happen this year.
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LOL excellent handicapping
 
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