Why not switch the position of the 1 and 9 in 9-ball to make it more interesting?

I probably watch more pool matches than 90-95% of folks on here. Packages aren't the problem people make them out to be. It's pretty rare actualy that anyone and I mean anyone runs 4 racks. 2 does happen a lot but 3 is not something you should expect to see in any tournament match you watch in fact I'd lay odds against 3 consecutive break and runs anytime. Especially in tournament settings with all the starting and stopping. 9 ball is fine.
Yeah, people have been doing statistics on that for years and BNR percentages with ANY rules vary between 30%-40%, but not over that especially when you're counting all the matches and not just the tv table.

Shaw vs. Doung Quoc Hoang

Wasted talent seems a bit much, but more than a grain of truth there.
I see your point as he’s had achievements, just not what he had the potential to have. It’s almost like after a few milestones were achieved, he just drifted in the prime years of his career and has now just become fat and surly.

For me, wasted talent or achievements are not the issue with this guy. It's his arrogance and lack of respect for the game, his opponents and fans of pool.

Pivot Point

Let

Forget all the slide rules, calculators, and measuring sticks.

Keep your same form and bridge and play with the cue.

If you can't figure it out, quit.

If you can play with a high deflection cue, you can play with a low deflection cue.
Yeah, I can play with a broomstick, but most people paying $500 for a LD CF shaft may want to take the game a little bit more seriously than that.

Pivot Point

If your normal bridge is 12" and your shaft has a pivot point of 12". What would be the effect when a player decides to get an LD 18" pivot point shaft and still maintain his 12" bridge length? What compensation would be needed?
The REAL answer to that question is, 'it depends'. How seriously do you play and how much do you want to improve or at least maintain your game?

I mean the qualifying questions necessary to answer that question fully and comprehensibly is extensive.

Do you play with BHE, FHE, do you play by feel, do you use an aiming system. Do you play one pocket?

I mean the appropriate answer to that question depends on whether you're an apa 5 who just wants to play for league and an occasional fargo capped local tourney, bang em around with buddies twice a month, or whether you are a serious player and gambler looking to improve your game to the point that you're a threat in any match you play whether it be a regional tourney or a $500 a game one hole match.

Why are you looking to get a LD shaft would be one question. I ask this because there are normal deflection carbon fiber shafts that will play pretty close to your wood shaft if you're just looking for the advantages of CF...

Is my Mali an M-8 or a T-11?

I found my way to this thread while trying to identify a Mali I recently picked up, and based on the prior comments and observations here, I believe this one is a T-11 Trophy Series cue.

It has the green Mali logo, four dark points into highly figured maple, stitch rings, a stainless piloted joint, and what appears to be the original shaft. The cue is in exceptionally good condition for its age, with only very minor handling marks.

What really compelled me to reply, though, was the discussion about the linen wrap. This cue also appears to have the linen finished over rather than left raw. The linen texture is still clearly visible, but there is a definite sealed/glossed surface over it, which seems very similar to the wrap treatment discussed earlier in this thread.

Another interesting detail is that the stainless joint collar is engraved lengthwise:

MELVIN “RED” LEEDY

I have not yet been able to determine who he was or whether the cue was specifically ordered for him.

For reference, the cue measures 57¾” assembled and weighs approximately 20.1 oz. The butt rolls flat. The shaft shows some taper roll, but there is no tip lift either separately or assembled.

I thought the finished-over-linen treatment was interesting enough, especially in light of the earlier discussion here, to add this example to the thread.

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National and Gandy Cue History

Collection Spotlight #1: The "Holy Grail" Gandy HC-140 Ebony Titlist Conversion

To kick off the showcase section of this history thread, I want to start with a true unicorn in my collection. This is an undocumented, uncataloged Gandy HC-140 built using a genuine Brunswick Ebony Titlist house cue conversion blank.

A Tribute to a Legend: Dick Abbott
I acquired this incredible cue back in 2018 directly from the late Dick Abbott (billiardcue.com / CuePics.com). Dick was a master cue appraiser, historian, and a true pioneer in digital pool cue photography. In a 2018 interview, Dick recalled his introduction to high-end collectible wood:

"John Oganowski... first introduced me to custom cues in the mid 1980s, I was immediately attracted to the playability, the feel and audible tone of the finest instruments and I still am. I was playing with a Gus Szamboti Titlist conversion at that time."

Because he played with a Titlist conversion himself, he immediately recognized the historical significance of this early Gandy version when it surfaced.

The Art of the Image
The exceptional showcase photos attached to this post were taken by Dick himself. His work captured the true soul of a cue, which he noted was an exhausting technical battle against reflections:

"Cues are really hard to photograph because they are long and skinny. Glare is a big problem because of the finish on the cues... Photoshop is a necessity, I actually spend more time editing the pictures than I do taking them... to make the cues look their best. I remove the original background, eliminate dust spots, correct the color so the cue that is in my hand matches the image on the computer screen..."

Keeping this cue preserved in my collection is a direct tribute to Dick's immense impact on our hobby and his commitment to documenting cue history.

Technical & Forensic Breakdown
  • The Blank: A true four-point old-stock Brunswick Ebony Titlist blank. The rich, dense ebony splice contrasts beautifully with the sharp Titlist veneers.
  • The Joint Configuration: Early-era production standard featuring a polished stainless steel joint.
  • The Shaft Insert: True to the original 1971–1973 Macon production line, it features a piloted aluminum insert embedded cleanly inside the female wood shaft threads.
  • The Wrap: Original period-correct factory nylon (Dacron?) wrap, providing a fantastic tactile window into how some of these custom shop anomalies rolled out of the Macon factory.
  • The Butt Cap: A flush, white bumperless butt cap featuring the exact standardized internal weight-bolt threading system common across my early Gandy fleet.

This cue stands as a remarkable physical record of custom workshop experimentation from the early 1970s transition window. It bridges the gap between traditional house cue conversions and the high-volume commercial lines Gandy was rolling out to fulfill their massive pool table contracts.

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