Hi Scott!, Having some trouble with my Le Pro tip ie; miscues. It was what I used for many years. I changed to layered tips back when they first came out. I believe they were 7 layer back then. Upon my recent return to pool I needed a new tip. 9 years out of the loop I just opted for "old reliable" Le Pro. It could be a lemon, but I am not pleased with it's performance or it's unwarranted miscues. You are most certainly more current than I with today's product. At this point I do not want to spend an inordinate amount on a tip, But I do want soild, predictable performance that coupled with proper maintenance does not hearald unwarranted miscues. I will post a thread on this but I want your personal perspective please. Thank you, Billy Bones