Empty the coin op tables out and pay per game will WORK. Or charge an appropriate amount per player per game on the non coin op tables. You do this people will at least have a diff problem to sweat. You don't do this, people will just stop coming.
The truth about the GSBT event in Bristol TN
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paid???
You think a TD, or tour operators in ths case, should be paid for working their butts off the rest of the week putting things together and then working almost around the clock during the tournament?
The TD's, tour operators, and room owners should be putting on tournaments and reaching deep into their own pockets for added money and to cover all of the very real expenses of putting on events for their love of pool.
Speaking of love of pool, when all of these other folks don't deserve any compensation, should the pool players be paid? I think I'll go ahead and host the Inter-Galactic Tri-Universe Championships I have been talking about for years. While it will be a true open, two hundred of the world's best will get a special invite. I'm going to give out pretty colored ribbons to the winners. No problem with finding a big enough venue, my friend has a table in his den.
Hu
You think a TD, or tour operators in ths case, should be paid for working their butts off the rest of the week putting things together and then working almost around the clock during the tournament?
The TD's, tour operators, and room owners should be putting on tournaments and reaching deep into their own pockets for added money and to cover all of the very real expenses of putting on events for their love of pool.
Speaking of love of pool, when all of these other folks don't deserve any compensation, should the pool players be paid? I think I'll go ahead and host the Inter-Galactic Tri-Universe Championships I have been talking about for years. While it will be a true open, two hundred of the world's best will get a special invite. I'm going to give out pretty colored ribbons to the winners. No problem with finding a big enough venue, my friend has a table in his den.
Hu
You got that right brother. Sign me up Im there. Can I be on the list? You know youve got the only tournament in the Tri-Universe!!!
336robin :thumbup:
Stop playing then. Simple. Problem solved, for you. You can stop losing sleep over it.
If it's really that bad, people will stop playing. That is the final determining factor. If the tour has players willing to play, under the payment payouts that you describe, then the majority has spoken.
No one is forcing anyone to play in the GSBT tour.
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The room owners add 1500 and have a room full of people all weekend. As for expenses that you people talk about, the room owner pays for the TD's room AND and food. The only people that get the short end are the players. START ADVERTISING THE TRUTH (0 added tourney) and see how many players you draw!!!!
LOL, where did you get that from? I'm not familiar with the GSBT but I have worked with and for two other regional tours in the past and the room owners DID NOT pay for the tour staffs hotel and food. Some pool rooms might give the TD's free food but not all of them. Depending on how far they are from home, they might have to stop & eat on the way to and from the event.
What it boils down to is no one knows all the details of every tour but too many state what they think is a fact and get bent out of shape over something they actually know nothing about.
Ultimately, I suggest you do the following - simply start your own tour. It is simple enough that you could do it in your spare time on the weekends, right?
Which regional tour(s) have you worked with?
TruthWillCome
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LOL, where did you get that from? I'm not familiar with the GSBT but I have worked with and for two other regional tours in the past and the room owners DID NOT pay for the tour staffs hotel and food. Some pool rooms might give the TD's free food but not all of them. Depending on how far they are from home, they might have to stop & eat on the way to and from the event.
What it boils down to is no one knows all the details of every tour but too many state what they think is a fact and get bent out of shape over something they actually know nothing about.
Ultimately, I suggest you do the following - simply start your own tour. It is simple enough that you could do it in your spare time on the weekends, right?
This is FACT for the GSBT tour.....rooms paid......food paid
Thanks for the reply. Anonymity is comfortable on a forum.
I wish I had never revealed my identity.
Of course, I could always sign up as a new identity and have multiple ones. Everybody else does it. It's the latest trend. :thumbup:
I've run many, many tournaments and one league. It's definitely a thankless job.
I can remember at the '86 Maryland State tournament, the owner was telling me that we had to be finished by the next day because he was losing table time. Meanwhile, some players were shooting like turtles, taking five minutes between each shot. And I had players complaining about the wait. We had rules we handed out to everybody, but back then, nobody thought about shot clocks.
I didn't make one dime on that tournament. I printed fliers, drove around the State of Maryland passing them out to pool rooms, spent time advertising, answered phone inquiries, spent all day and night at the tournament trying to run it, kept the chart going. I did it all for free and I still got complaints. :angry:
Don't know where you got your info, but it is WRONG. Shannon & Marge pay their own way.
TruthWillCome
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Would you care to wager??? It's you that are wrong. Room gets paid everywhere, food at most. THAT'S A FACT know it all.
TruthWillCome...Why is that you keep beating a dead horse here? YOU are the one who is so pissed about this, that you felt it necessary to come on here and slam the owners of the GSBT. As you can see from the posters here, NOBODY else gives a sh*t what you think, and they have told you just to stop playing...as would be the case, if most of the players thought they were getting ripped off. If I were Marge & Shannon, I would simply ban you from any of their events. Give it up...it's not the debacle you want to try and make it.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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Just because Janis gets that deal doesn't mean everyone does. You don't like the GSBT, fine don't play.
TruthWillCome
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For your info.... The poolroom owner, Janet Atwell had about 25 players complain about the payout. This wad a travesty, not just some little error.
If Janet Atwell has a problem with it, I would think that Janet Atwell will work it out with GSBT. Which is how it should be.
If the room owner has a problem with it, they should deal with the tour folks.
If the players don't like the deal, they shouldn't play.
If whiners wanna whine, they come to AZB.
But the only one we're "hearing" is you.
first....I mean 121st
Winner of tournament = $1000
Tournament Directing = $2615
One guy plays multiple champions and has a REALLY hard days work and no Guarantees!!!
One guy does not have to play multiple champions and gets DOUBLE the payout virtually Guaranteed!!!
I see the point is HOW fair is it?????????
Not taking sides here!!! I think the director should be paid! How much they get paid is all relative!!!! Maybe some % formula is MOST appropriate in HINDSIGHT!!!
I think the original poster would not be upset if:
Winner of tournament =$2615
Tournament Directing =$1000
He would be quite as a church mouse!!!!!!
I also BELIEVE the GSBT fully disclosed the GREEN FEE and other information MATERIAL to ALL participants!!!! CRYING over it after the fact is NOT COOL! Especially, when no one broke your arm and forced you to PLAY!!! Exercise your WALLET and PLAY only where you get the best bang for your buck! Just, some friendly advise! Signing on like this and attacking someone's business is MALICIOUS and in very POOR taste.
KD
Tournament Directing = $2615
One guy plays multiple champions and has a REALLY hard days work and no Guarantees!!!
One guy does not have to play multiple champions and gets DOUBLE the payout virtually Guaranteed!!!
I see the point is HOW fair is it?????????
Not taking sides here!!! I think the director should be paid! How much they get paid is all relative!!!! Maybe some % formula is MOST appropriate in HINDSIGHT!!!
I think the original poster would not be upset if:
Winner of tournament =$2615
Tournament Directing =$1000
He would be quite as a church mouse!!!!!!
I also BELIEVE the GSBT fully disclosed the GREEN FEE and other information MATERIAL to ALL participants!!!! CRYING over it after the fact is NOT COOL! Especially, when no one broke your arm and forced you to PLAY!!! Exercise your WALLET and PLAY only where you get the best bang for your buck! Just, some friendly advise! Signing on like this and attacking someone's business is MALICIOUS and in very POOR taste.
KD