alex!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah
It's come up before. It's a shame that professionals have to act like, well...prefessional, huh?
It's come up before. It's a shame that professionals have to act like, well...prefessional, huh?
He was very drunk playing in the FINALS of the straight pool challenge at Derby City this year (he lost...didn't care...not a high dollar event).
Definitely yet another black eye for the sport. At least when Ralph Greenleaf was drunk (almost all the time), the spectators usually could not tell. A well-practiced drunk...sounds like Alex is on his way. If you drink long enough and steady enough, your sober-self and drunk-self become MUCH more alike - your brain becomes addled.
He is a very entertaining player, his friends like him and defend him (he must be a nice guy); but it certainly sounds like his friends need to HELP him, not enable him. JMO.
Definitely yet another black eye for the sport. At least when Ralph Greenleaf was drunk (almost all the time), the spectators usually could not tell. A well-practiced drunk...sounds like Alex is on his way. If you drink long enough and steady enough, your sober-self and drunk-self become MUCH more alike - your brain becomes addled.
He is a very entertaining player, his friends like him and defend him (he must be a nice guy); but it certainly sounds like his friends need to HELP him, not enable him. JMO.
Tap, tap, tap, and well said, Williebetmore! :smile:
There is no doubt, in my mind at least, that Alex Pagulayan is one of pool's shining stars. Whenever he shows up at a pool event, all eyes are on him, and all ears hang onto every word out of his mouth. He's a natural entertainer who believes, in my opinion based on personal observations, that pool needs to be fun. He gets a kick out of himself, and when he laughs, so too does the whole world around him. Make no mistake about it: Alex Pagulayan is good for pool.
That said, sometimes pool players get pulled in different directions by so-called "friends" who want to be seen with them and/or use their name in upcoming pool happenings and/or give the pool player free gifts to win their friendship, even gifts like free brewskies, marijuana, pills and/or cocaine.
I am not saying Alex uses drugs or drinks to excess, but I am saying that the occupational hazards in pool are brutal. Some players can overcome them, and the ones who can't or don't or won't may be everybody's pool hero today. I wonder, though, how many friends, true friends these pool players may have if they ever go broke, can't pocket a ball anymore, get sick, go to jail, or die penniless with no money to bury them.
In Alex's case, he's won every championship there is in the pool world. He's got nothing to prove. We all know he's capable of beating anybody on the face of the earth. Maybe he's out there just enjoying life to the fullest and doesn't seem to understand the appearance of his enjoying life is to pool purists, fans and enthusiasts, and other pool entities.
Heck, in today's social media and technological world, it almost seems like a pool player can't pick his nose without there being a debate on his nose-picking ways, how it's bad for the sport, what it will do to our youth, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. :grin:
Understanding substance abuse and addiction, to include gambling, two of the biggest occupational hazards in the pool world, I hope Alex never falls into either of those categories. He's really one of my favorite pool people and deserves nothing but the best in life. He is a joy to be around and puts a smile on everybody's face wherever he goes.
Alex and Michael Coltrain at 2004 Carolinas Open.
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JC,
Well said. I just wish pool was popular enough for some guys to learn it; very little fallout in the mainstream media for poolplayers. Just imagine Tiger Woods showing up drunk for the final round of the Masters...we'd have to watch that on ESPN for WEEKS.
Anyway, I know you are a fan; and I only wish him the best. What a talent!
Well was he playing drunk or getting his drink on after his day was done? There is a big difference.
Mr. Daily did it. People seemed to think that was ok.
Pool players drink, get used to it. My whole team drinks during the state and national tournaments and during league night.
For you AA people out there who think everyone that drinks at all is an alcoholic, you're wrong. Just because you get drunk and have some fun once in a while it does not make you an alcoholic. When it starts ruining family relationships and causing problems with work then you got a problem.
For you AA people out there who think everyone that drinks at all is an alcoholic, you're wrong. Just because you get drunk and have some fun once in a while it does not make you an alcoholic. When it starts ruining family relationships and causing problems with work then you got a problem.
so is it ok for you to show up drunk to a tournament final?
Sorry, but I disagree. I think one of the greatest ills in society today is the attitude that anything goes as long as you don't get caught. A better lesson, in my opinion, is to live by the same values and morals that you would want your children to live by, in private or public. Nobody is immune to the power of celebrity, but those that can control it are way ahead of the game.
In a perfect world I would agree totally
They r not talking about pool league nite here,its about playing in a big tournament finals,that is being streamed and crowded with lots of people in attenence watching the final match(not a good time to be overly drunk),if 1 cant wait until the final match is over to do his drinking,then i mite just have a bad drinking problem,not to mention that it most likely hinders 1s performance,1 way or another!
Coolest Man in The World,,,,,,,,!!
Stay thirsty my friends,,,!!
Stay thirsty my friends,,,!!
Maybe Alex needs to learn to say no. On one hand buying a drink for someone is quite normal in our culture. Its a way of showing friendship and appreciation.
Filipinos are some of the friendliest people I have ever had the pleasure to work with and hang out with. Some cultures have certain rules. Example.
Refusing a gift from someone might be taken as a serious slap in the face. If someone offers to buy me a beer and I don't feel like I want another, I politely refuse and say, "thanks but no thanks". Asian people are a very social culture. I have noticed that Filipinos love to eat together. Lunch time, they all bring enuff for themselves and others. Very common to see them passing around what they have brought to eat. Every day is Pot Luck for them.
So maybe Alex really doesn't need another beer but will accept one as an alternative to offending someone. Its not as if he can't afford to buy his own when he feels the need to refill his glass.
So maybe we are the ones to blame this time around.
Filipinos are some of the friendliest people I have ever had the pleasure to work with and hang out with. Some cultures have certain rules. Example.
Refusing a gift from someone might be taken as a serious slap in the face. If someone offers to buy me a beer and I don't feel like I want another, I politely refuse and say, "thanks but no thanks". Asian people are a very social culture. I have noticed that Filipinos love to eat together. Lunch time, they all bring enuff for themselves and others. Very common to see them passing around what they have brought to eat. Every day is Pot Luck for them.
So maybe Alex really doesn't need another beer but will accept one as an alternative to offending someone. Its not as if he can't afford to buy his own when he feels the need to refill his glass.
So maybe we are the ones to blame this time around.
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A lil over 10 years ago when i use to bet on Scotty Townsend alot & put him in the box...I put off getting a neck surgery..Scotty tells me...Go ahead & get what u need done & i'm gonna do what i need to do..alot of people tell me I need to quit drinking and take pool more serious...we shook on it & next week I let them cut on me...when I was able to call Scotty afterward on the phone...He asked me if i had done it..I tell him yea and ask him bout his deal...He tells me...WELL...I lasted 8 days but I get to Jackson & get in a ring game & can't make a ball so I tell the bartenter...give me 3 of em...& i win $4000...If i can't make a ball I can't make no money...Got to luv old Scotty...lol
IMO it is no ones business if the guy is getting drunk or whatever...if its not during tournament time, I have seen Alex at a tournament here or there and he gets hammered just like most everyone else there during after hours. I do agree about him playing an event all hammered, IMO I think that should be left for after hours action and not tournament play and this includes the Derby. I just think it would be more professional for sponsors who might be watching or have interest unless of course its Budweiser looking to sponsor then I say carry on boys. To me Alex seemed like a fun drunk who was just having a good time, there are some players who drink and its a true problem, getting nasty, into fights and arguments, those people do not know how to drink and should quit before someone retires them.