4.5 inch corners...
I hope one of those diamond 10-foots gets 4.25 or so and 5 inch sides so we have a proper action table. 4.5 inches is too big for the pros, even on a 10-foot.
Pics of the "Fatboy" Rails and Pockets for TAR 21. Yeah they are a wee bit tight.
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4.5 inch corners...
I hope one of those diamond 10-foots gets 4.25 or so and 5 inch sides so we have a proper action table. 4.5 inches is too big for the pros, even on a 10-foot.
4.5 inch corners...
I hope one of those diamond 10-foots gets 4.25 or so and 5 inch sides so we have a proper action table. 4.5 inches is too big for the pros, even on a 10-foot.
I'm not so sure. I think 4.5" corners and 5" sides would be just about right. Although I have never player on such a table, I may change my mind after some time on one. That would be fun!!!
So I'm second fiddle to a hunk of wood and stone. :shrug:
Add Billy Incardona and Jay Helfert in the mix as well. :thumbup:
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I hear you're about 2500 miles from Vegas in the North East. I've hit on a few of your rare tables out here and you've got my compliments! They play just beautifully.
Just tighten 'em up a tiny bit next time - just the corners though!
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Originally Posted by lfigueroa
For RKC: there is a fine line between educating your peeps and bragging. Form is everything.
I'm gonna go out on a skinny limb here and say I disagree, that "form is everything". And anyone who knows me will tell you, out on a skinny limb is no place for me to be. :yikes:
RKC can be p-r-i-c-k-l-y, and even braggadocios. I don't think he would deny this. Is it bad form? Maybe in some respects, it is, but I think there is more to it.
I consider myself to be a pretty good judge of character and while I have interacted with Glen here on az only infrequently over the last few years, I finally just had the opportunity to meet him in person. He's been here at Sunnyside transforming my GC1 for a number of days now. I've had the pleasure of getting to know him on a personal level during his stay.
Glen is opinionated, to be sure. But make no mistake about it, while he talks the talk, he really does walk the walk.
We have engaged in a lot of discussion while he's been here - not all pool related. Glen is genuine, smart, and an outrageously funny guy. And on top of this, as many of you already know, he possesses more knowledge of pool tables than anyone in the country, possibly even the world. This is no exaggeration.
I've had the guys who've come here and reclothed and changed out the rubber, "leveled" the table, got their money and turned on their heels.
RKC is on the home stretch with my table and he falls on the exact opposite end of the spectrum from the aforementioned 'table mechanics'. Glen transforms a pool table. I will spare all the details here as I plan to post a seperate dedicated thread about it very soon.
Suffice to say, my table is getting put back to like new (better, actually)and it has required a lot of time and expertise. The kind of knowledge and skill that is developed over decades of paying close attention, absorbing, and innovating.
Glen's strong suit is not polite discord. I think he has a difficult time receiving info that sounds to him like 1 plus 1 equals 46.
When it come to his trade, he can explain things like how a certain cloth wears better because of the wool/nylon ratio and how it was woven then how many times the wool was worsted in order to raise the nap to what degree then shaved down to what height so the balls won't burn the nylon which is what causes the wear marks, the end result being an increase of x amount of tournaments being able to be played on the cloth before needing a recover which will save this amount of $$$ and on and on and on. How strong is that? That's the kind of answer you can get from RKC, not just that 'xyz' cloth is better.
If you are willing to peel back a layer or two of the onion that is RKC, you will find an honest, hardworking, funny, and mega-talented guy with more knowledge of pool tables than anyone you will ever meet. :thumbup:
IMHO, I'd be much more put off with the abundance of people that talk a whole lot of talk, who really, when it comes right down to it, can't even remotely, walk the walk.
Best,
Brian kc
Originally Posted by lfigueroa
For RKC: there is a fine line between educating your peeps and bragging. Form is everything.
I'm gonna go out on a skinny limb here and say I disagree, that "form is everything". And anyone who knows me will tell you, out on a skinny limb is no place for me to be. :yikes:
RKC can be p-r-i-c-k-l-y, and even braggadocios. I don't think he would deny this. Is it bad form? Maybe in some respects, it is, but I think there is more to it.
I consider myself to be a pretty good judge of character and while I have interacted with Glen here on az only infrequently over the last few years, I finally just had the opportunity to meet him in person. He's been here at Sunnyside transforming my GC1 for a number of days now. I've had the pleasure of getting to know him on a personal level during his stay.
Glen is opinionated, to be sure. But make no mistake about it, while he talks the talk, he really does walk the walk.
We have engaged in a lot of discussion while he's been here - not all pool related. Glen is genuine, smart, and an outrageously funny guy. And on top of this, as many of you already know, he possesses more knowledge of pool tables than anyone in the country, possibly even the world. This is no exaggeration.
I've had the guys who've come here and reclothed and changed out the rubber, "leveled" the table, got their money and turned on their heels.
RKC is on the home stretch with my table and he falls on the exact opposite end of the spectrum from the aforementioned 'table mechanics'. Glen transforms a pool table. I will spare all the details here as I plan to post a seperate dedicated thread about it very soon.
Suffice to say, my table is getting put back to like new (better, actually)and it has required a lot of time and expertise. The kind of knowledge and skill that is developed over decades of paying close attention, absorbing, and innovating.
Glen's strong suit is not polite discord. I think he has a difficult time receiving info that sounds to him like 1 plus 1 equals 46.
When it come to his trade, he can explain things like how a certain cloth wears better because of the wool/nylon ratio and how it was woven then how many times the wool was worsted in order to raise the nap to what degree then shaved down to what height so the balls won't burn the nylon which is what causes the wear marks, the end result being an increase of x amount of tournaments being able to be played on the cloth before needing a recover which will save this amount of $$$ and on and on and on. How strong is that? That's the kind of answer you can get from RKC, not just that 'xyz' cloth is better.
If you are willing to peel back a layer or two of the onion that is RKC, you will find an honest, hardworking, funny, and mega-talented guy with more knowledge of pool tables than anyone you will ever meet. :thumbup:
IMHO, I'd be much more put off with the abundance of people that talk a whole lot of talk, who really, when it comes right down to it, can't even remotely, walk the walk.
Best,
Brian kc
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4.5 inch corners...
I hope one of those diamond 10-foots gets 4.25 or so and 5 inch sides so we have a proper action table. 4.5 inches is too big for the pros, even on a 10-foot.
To be fair for everyone, I do agree with the 4 1/2" Pro Cut pockets at least to begin with. I'd like to see Shane & Earl play a rematch on the first one built, see what happens, then adjust from there.
Glen
What many people don't know is that Alex is the current Canadian snooker champ and shot world class snooker in the semi finals and finals of it a few months ago... making 4 or 5 centuries through the tourney. No wonder he wants the tight pockets.. I actually think he has the edge.
Is the bed cloth on the table brand new for this match? What about the rail cloth. I ask due to the circumstances of this being a combination of two tables.
i heard he knocked in his first 147 some month ago.
Shane is not unfamiliar with tight pockets. The problem with a lot of tables is the gaffe way some pockets play that can, and will rattle some players who like to play a little more of the pocket than just center pocket when making balls. These pockets are not going to gaffe rattle any well played shot out of the pockets at all. So, keeping that in mind, this is going to be a match up between two world class players, playing against each other, and not against the table, having to adjust their game, and being surprised at how some shots that should have went in...didn't go. There won't be any balls shot down the rails that spit out of the pockets if they're hit good. So, in all fairness...this is a real match up between two players that are not scared to play on a table with tight pockets. The table has the same 860HR on the rails as it does on the bed cloth, so there's no off balance there either, the cloth is not going to be changed on Fatboy's rails as they don't need to be changed, they're like new as it is last time I saw his table.
Bottom line is, there isn't going to be any inside secrets that favors one player over the other in this match-up. Like two boxers slugging it out right dead in the middle of the ring...it don't matter where the ropes are, or how tight they are, if the fighters never leave center stage
Glen
Has this been verified??? Are you referring to a 147 on a 12' snooker table? If that's the case I would be very very impressed.
Edit - Sorry I missed a couple of posts above yours. I see you were talking about Alex (this makes more sense). For some reason I thought you were talking about Shane and I just about lost it - thinking he completed a 147. Sorry for the wasted time.
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KC....this is a fine post...I hope it was #2,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by lfigueroa
For RKC: there is a fine line between educating your peeps and bragging. Form is everything.
If you are willing to peel back a layer or two of the onion that is RKC, you will find an honest, hardworking, funny, and mega-talented guy with more knowledge of pool tables than anyone you will ever meet. :thumbup:
IMHO, I'd be much more put off with the abundance of people that talk a whole lot of talk, who really, when it comes right down to it, can't even remotely, walk the walk.
Best,
Brian kc
Never met RKC, but I know a bit from his posts.
I've said a while back that 'good enough doesn't cut it with him, he wants
the best he can do'
And I can fade his brusqueness ....a lot of fine artisans think like that.
and KC, I would suggest playing the straight pool and 1-pocket thing
that you saw at SBE would be good for your game AND your table.
Breaking at rotation or 8-ball games is the quickest way to ruin your cloth.
..I hope this won't be considered hi-jacking the thread.....
..after all, Fatboy's pockets were done by RKC.
Heading for Vegas today. Plan to do my best to make this a memorable event, working with the great Cardone. You can expect a little different flavor to the commentary from time to time. I plan to go deep into the pool mind of one of the gambling geniuses of the last forty years. And what a back drop we'll have, two of the current greats of pool going at it mano a mano. It doesn't get much better than this. Now, let's get ready to rumble! :clapping:
Thats a matchup I would love to see. SVB vs. Earl and a 5x10 Diamond!!!