pinning

used to describe when someone was accelerating the edge of their tip precisely at impact.

Ahh, I see. You must mean, TOFT. Touch of Follow Through.

Or, you could make is easy and just explain to the members exactly what Pinning is.
Instead of being Vague and making others guess as to what you are speaking about.

Now previously, you stated that you actually try and help members of AZ.

Ok, explain exactly what Pinning is.

Why and when you would use it. To what advantage it would be for a Player to use it.

How it works, and how do you execute the shot using Pinning.

Ya know, that sort of stuff that would make it so much easier for us Dummies to Grasp.

Like, either shit or get off the pot. Explain it, (if you can), or quit talking about it as your, I Know Something You Don't Know, game does get old fairly quickly.

Most of us have been playing for a good part of our lives. If by now, we haven't known about or used Pinning, it is very doubtful that it is or has been detrimental in the way we have been playing.

It's really not part of 'The Touch of Inside' System although it does compliment it because of the accuracy required in "tip targeting".

Tip Targeting. Now here is another New One. Yer just making this Shite up as you go along, aren't you.

Surely you can do better than this, Captain Mosconi.

PS..Thats why they have such frequent giveaways !

Yeah Dick, I have seen the Give Aways. Click here for a Free Video. The Free Video was the original DVD sales pitch. Well, it was Free.
 
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Ahh, I see. You must mean, TOFT. Touch of Follow Through.

Or, you could make is easy and just explain to the members exactly what Pinning is.
Instead of being Vague and making others guess as to what you are speaking about.

Now previously, you stated that you actually try and help members of AZ.

Ok, explain exactly what Pinning is.

Why and when you would use it. To what advantage it would be for a Player to use it.

How it works, and how do you execute the shot using Pinning.

Ya know, that sort of stuff that would make it so much easier for us Dummies to Grasp.

Like, either shit or get off the pot. Explain it, (if you can), or quit talking about it as your, I Know Something You Don't Know, game does get old fairly quickly.

Most of us have been playing for a good part of our lives. If by now, we haven't known about or used Pinning, it is very doubtful that it is or has been detrimental in the way we have been playing.



Tip Targeting. Now here is another New One. Yer just making this Shite up as you go along, aren't you.

Surely you can do better than this, Captain Mosconi.



Yeah Dick, I have seen the Give Aways. Click here for a Free Video. The Free Video was the original DVD sales pitch. Well, it was Free.

Since i am the OP he has explained it to my satisfaction. If you would stop trolling and brown nosing SJD ass you would know that.
Thanks CJ
 
Since i am the OP he has explained it to my satisfaction. If you would stop trolling and brown nosing SJD ass you would know that.
Thanks CJ

You sir, are quite unique !...You are one of the very few, who can possibly make any sense of his endless ramblings about Yoga, martial arts, zen, morality, and whatever else he claims to be an expert at !..Even his attempts at anything pool related, are so 'off the wall'. he cannot adequately explain them to anyone ! :rolleyes:

He may have beaten a few good player's, but any one of them can give him the five out, when it comes to puting "how to play pool", into words that ANYONE can understand !..I admire his persistence, and I have no problem with his trying to make a buck off people like you !.. But it looks like he would eventually realize he is NOT, or never will be, a "pool instructor" ! :cool:

PS.In fact, in an honest poll..'Cocabola Cowboy' may edge him out, at teaching anyone how to play pool ! ;)
 
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It's not a "stroking technique," it's a description and training for how the wrist releases. It doesn't matter if you currently use a "Pendulum" or "Piston" style, it can be used effectively for both. It's much like the release into the golf ball, it doesn't matter what kind of swing you have, it's important that the wrists release in a way that creates the most precision and accuracy.....it's the same in pool. 'the GAME is the teacher'

Using you're analogy, you're saying the release in golf is not part of the swing?
 
if ANYONE can win a fair, professionally formatted debate on AZBILLIARDS

You sir, are quite unique !...You are one of the very few, who can possibly make any sense of his endless ramblings about Yoga, martial arts, zen, morality, and whatever else he claims to be an expert at !..Even his attempts at anything pool related, are so 'off the wall'. he cannot adequately explain them to anyone ! :rolleyes:

He may have beaten a few good player's, but any one of them can give him the five out, when it comes to puting "how to play pool", into words that ANYONE can understand !..I admire his persistence, and I have no problem with his trying to make a buck off people like you !.. But it looks like he would eventually realize he is NOT, or never will be, a "pool instructor" ! :cool:

PS.In fact, in an honest poll..'Cocabola Cowboy' may edge him out, at teaching anyone how to play pool ! ;)


I'll accept that challenge!!!

I will debate ANYONE in the world about pool techniques, systems, mental game, or any other topic that AZBILLIARDS wants us to discuss.

This does mean ANYONE, and if they win, I'll stop posting on AZBILLIARDS forever!!!

That's right, if ANYONE can win a fair, professionally formatted debate on AZBILLIARDS with them asking us questions and allowing 1-3 minutes for our responses and input on the topic.

Let's see if anyone can win even, let alone give me the "5 Out".....then some of you can get your wish, I'll stop posting on AZBILLIARDS forever!!! No if's, and's, or pool butt's!!!

I will also bet $1000 on the side with whomever wants to take this bet.

Where I come from in Texas, men gamble when they have a disagreement - any takers?

th
 
You sir, are quite unique !...You are one of the very few, who can possibly make any sense of his endless ramblings about Yoga, martial arts, zen, morality, and whatever else he claims to be an expert at !..Even his attempts at anything pool related, are so 'off the wall'. he cannot adequately explain them to anyone ! :rolleyes:

He may have beaten a few good player's, but any one of them can give him the five out, when it comes to puting "how to play pool", into words that ANYONE can understand !..I admire his persistence, and I have no problem with his trying to make a buck off people like you !.. But it looks like he would eventually realize he is NOT, or never will be, a "pool instructor" ! :cool:

PS.In fact, in an honest poll..'Cocabola Cowboy' may edge him out, at teaching anyone how to play pool ! ;)

All i said was i understand the concept of "pinning". You then make quite a few assumptions.
PS Any advanced technique you would like to share with us today.
PSS No i am not saying pinning is an advanced technique. At this point I don't know how effective it may or may not be.
 
The pool stroke is the same concept, the release is very important

Using you're analogy, you're saying the release in golf is not part of the swing?

The release is part of the swing, it just doesn't matter what type of swing you use.

Only the better golfers release the club properly, and this is what generates their additional distance, accuracy and consistency.

The pool stroke is the same concept, the release is very important, and yes, it's certainly part of the stroke. My point clearly states that it doesn't matter how you describe your stoking style, the release is critical to play the game at your best time and time again.

The HAMMER RELEASE is nothing new, it's been used to teach many younger players, including myself, Rafael Martinez and even Earl Strickland hammered a lot as a youngster. 'The Hammer was our Teacher'
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Yesterday, I was "grinning", "pinning", and "winning" while my opponent was "spinning".

I was beating him at a rate of about 4-5 games to 1.

Aloha.
 
I will debate ANYONE in the world about pool techniques, systems, mental game, or any other topic that AZBILLIARDS wants us to discuss.

This does mean ANYONE, and if they win, I'll stop posting on AZBILLIARDS forever!!!

That's right, if ANYONE can win a fair, professionally formatted debate on AZBILLIARDS with them asking us questions and allowing 1-3 minutes for our responses and input on the topic.
Why not just talk openly about things without all the bluster? You've had plenty of opportunities.

Where I come from in Texas, men gamble when they have a disagreement - any takers?
Where I come from men (and women) are willing to discuss things without all the barking and defensiveness.

pj
chgo

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I'll accept that challenge!!!

I will debate ANYONE in the world about pool techniques, systems, mental game, or any other topic that AZBILLIARDS wants us to discuss...That's right, if ANYONE can win a fair, professionally formatted debate on AZBILLIARDS with them asking us questions and allowing 1-3 minutes for our responses and input on the topic....

......Where I come from in Texas, men gamble when they have a disagreement - any takers?

th

The odds of finding anyone willing to preside over such a debate, would be next to impossible !..You have given new names, and new meanings, to every possible facet of the game !..In the few years I've been following (or trying to follow) your offerings, I have seen you contradict yourself dozens of times.. This has been called to your attention many times, but you just keep adding to your Wiley-isms, by coming up with a 'new' name, for whatever it is your talking about ! :confused:

I have been heavily involved in pool, for 15-20 yrs. longer, than you've been alive !..I have befriended, and talked to dozens of top players, and pool lover's over those years..But, I have NEVER had a conversation, with anyone, remotely like the 10,000 + posts you have tried to "hammer" home, to your fans. And please don't lecture me, on what a big Texas 'gambler you are..You could have gambled real high with me, (like Cooney did) when I was on my last legs ! You chose not to, so don't try to win my money with a silly, undoable bet !
 
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The release is part of the swing, it just doesn't matter what type of swing you use.

Only the better golfers release the club properly, and this is what generates their additional distance, accuracy and consistency.

The pool stroke is the same concept, the release is very important, and yes, it's certainly part of the stroke. My point clearly states that it doesn't matter how you describe your stoking style, the release is critical to play the game at your best time and time again.

The HAMMER RELEASE is nothing new, it's been used to teach many younger players, including myself, Rafael Martinez and even Earl Strickland hammered a lot as a youngster. 'The Hammer was our Teacher'
stock-photo-studio-isolated-hammer-hitting-a-nail-with-partial-motion-blur-at-the-tool-s-top-99625775.jpg

Apples and oranges ,,, the golf swing and the pool stroke have almost zero in common and both have nothing in common with swinging a hammer which is a entirely differant motion ,, unless your smacking the cue on the table or throwing a golf club ,, that's it

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I think that folks on both sides of the question do have to admit that CJ's hammer photo in his #109 post really does look like a whole mess o' pinning going on:
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Arnaldo :) Blessed are the Peacemakers
 
I think that folks on both sides of the question do have to admit that CJ's hammer photo in his #109 post really does look like a whole mess o' pinning going on:
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Arnaldo :) Blessed are the Peacemakers

Looks to me like hes trying to drive a screw with a hammer. But as the old saying goes, when the hammer is the only tool in the box, everything looks like a nail.
Chuck
 
You really want to take that position?

The odds of finding anyone willing to preside over such a debate, would be next to impossible !..You have given new names, and new meanings, to every possible facet of the game !..In the few years I've been following (or trying to follow) your offerings, I have seen you contradict yourself dozens of times.. This has been called to your attention many times, but you just keep adding to your Wiley-isms, by coming up with a 'new' name, for whatever it is your talking about ! :confused:

I have been heavily involved in pool, for 15-20 yrs. longer, than you've been alive !..I have befriended, and talked to dozens of top players, and pool lover's over those years..But, I have NEVER had a conversation, with anyone, remotely like the 10,000 + posts you have tried to "hammer" home, to your fans. And please don't lecture me, on what a big Texas 'gambler you are..You could have gambled real high with me, (like Cooney did) when I was on my last legs ! You chose not to, so don't try to win my money with a silly, undoable bet !




I thought so, talk is cheap, but once the money is put up SJD runs for the hills.

So no one in the world will accept my challenge because WHY? I use different terminology? You really want to take that position?
 
Hank actually tells one of our stories in his book 'The Big Miss'

Apples and oranges ,,, the golf swing and the pool stroke have almost zero in common and both have nothing in common with swinging a hammer which is a entirely differant motion ,, unless your smacking the cue on the table or throwing a golf club ,, that's it

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Hank Haney and I worded together for 2 years - he taught me the most advanced golf swing and I showed him the pro fundamentals of the pool stroke and intricacies of the game BEFORE Tiger Woods hired him to be his swing coach. Hank actually tells one of our stories in his book 'The Big Miss' about one of my pool philosophies and how he passed it on to Tiger.

MORE ABOUT HANK CLICK THIS LINK

Hank Haney is an American professional golf instructor best known for coaching Tiger Woods and two-time major championship winner Mark O'Meara. A graduate of the University of Tulsa, Haney owns and operates four teaching facilities in the Dallas, Texas area.
Haney says, "My philosophy as a teacher is to teach my students to become their own best teacher by getting them to understand the flight of the golf ball and how it relates to the swing, with emphasis on swinging the golf club on their own correct swing plane".
Haney changed Tiger Woods' swing from an upright to a flatter golf swing. His wrist cock is much less obvious than it was with his old coach Butch Harmon. Woods' swing is much more around his body, Haney tries to get his students to swing on the same plane angle which the golf club is on at address.
In 2008, Haney started working with former NBA star and current NBA analyst Charles Barkley on the Golf Channel's The Haney Project: Charles Bark...CLICK LINK ABOVE FOR MORE ON HANK HANEY
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I thought so, talk is cheap, but once the money is put up SJD runs for the hills.

So no one in the world will accept my challenge because WHY? I use different terminology? You really want to take that position?

No, it's because you make things up and change definitions of common words when you find that they're not correct in your attempted usage. Like arguing with a child - there's no reasoning with them and they don't know any better.
 
No, it's because you make things up and change definitions of common words when you find that they're not correct in your attempted usage. Like arguing with a child - there's no reasoning with them and they don't know any better.

Can you give some examples of definitions I've changed, or things I've made up?
 
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