Jayson Shaw's playing 1-hole 7 ahead for 90k

blusteel

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In reading this, it sounds like they put the $180,000 in Dave's room vault "for safe keeping". True?
 

Treyf123

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Alright. Was just curious if he didn't pay what he owed, OR didn't pay what he owed and took your post money. Both are very shitty either way. GL getting paid

This pretty mich sums it up...After sweating for 7 days id like to see em finish..ha ha ...

Both players posted first match: 90K cash posted by Chris's backer. Dave posted 90K in chips.. Chris wins first match. Dave wants to play second match for 90K Chris posts the 90K won from first set. Dave explains the money is not safe at location and needs to be put in the safe at Aria.. They then start second set and are 2-3 days into second match, Chris is up 4 games (makes incredible out to win game 4) and Dave says I quit to everyone there and goes to counter and pays the time!! Dave has skipped out holding-keeping "Chris's stake horse 90K post" as well as 4 additional games from second set equalling an additional 45K for total of 135K Dave needs to pay ASAP!!

The way i read this is Chris posted the 90k he won so im assuming he has his initial 90k... But is out of the second set Post and winnings so basically its as if they never played
 

Ken_4fun

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Hope

I hope Dippy gets (2) behind the ear....

I have had enough of him, and the nuthuggers who worship him.

Ken
 

Moet.1977

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Wow

I hope Dippy gets (2) behind the ear....

I have had enough of him, and the nuthuggers who worship him.

Ken
Easy Ken this doesn't sound like you, sounds more like something I would
have said 10 years ago. I don't think it should ever go that far, but
maybe break some bones real good so he can never play again.
 

Ken_4fun

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Easy Ken this doesn't sound like you, sounds more like something I would
have said 10 years ago. I don't think it should ever go that far, but
maybe break some bones real good so he can never play again.

Since you're from Southern Indiana....what do you think Herbert "Daddy Warbucks" Cokes would have done with Dippy? :eek:

Ken
 

mikeyfrost

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Don't make the guy who got wronged into the criminal. The fact of the matter is every gambling situation is different and sometimes you gotta just get down and play and you don't have time to figure out every single detail. I've seen people take posted money off the light before, these things happen. The only important part of it all is that payment gets made, which I'm thinking they will handle.
 

Scott Lee

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This is what I was told yesterday by someone who knows exactly how this works (and knows Dippy Dave very well). You would take the chips to the casino that issued them, regardless of the denomination, telling them you won the the money from David Peat, who is well known to all the casinos. They would call David to verify the win, and then cash the chips for the holder. The only way it wouldn't work is if he denied losing the chips...which of course would be a lie. Good luck Chris Bartram in getting paid for your legitimate win. :grin:

Scott Lee
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Lesson learned for all: Never play anybody for large-denomination casino chips. If the chips are for a certain amount, they are difficult to cash.

I hope Chris gets paid. I'm thinking a settlement in the future may be on the horizon.
 

real bartram

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This is what I was told yesterday by someone who knows exactly how this works (and knows Dippy Dave very well). You would take the chips to the casino that issued them, regardless of the denomination, telling them you won the the money from David Peat, who is well known to all the casinos. They would call David to verify the win, and then cash the chips for the holder. The only way it wouldn't work is if he denied losing the chips...which of course would be a lie. Good luck Chris Bartram in getting paid for your legitimate win. :grin:

Scott Lee
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The problem is I never got any chips .
I never got cash or any chips .
 
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JAM

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The problem is I never got any chips .
I never got cash or any chips .

Did you not get paid for the first set? There was no chips or cash posted by both sides for the first set? You're too smart to play without a post, I'm sure.

You don't have to share what happened on this forum. I would not want it to jeopardize you getting paid.

I know you know that the exact same thing happened to somebody else in Vegas a while back -- and elsewhere too.

Sometimes -- this is my opinion -- I think people are anxious and excited to play for big stakes that they don't cross all the t's and dot all the i's, which means taking precautions to prevent air barrels, et cetera.

Spotting anybody 15 to 5 and winning, you deserve to be paid. I don't know. Maybe backers and stakehorses have such deep pockets that they just chalk it up as a cost of doing business, but to the pool player, it's a tremendous blow after giving it your all, only to be not paid. :(
 

sopadre

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Dippy has a history of things like this.Down here on the border this would never happen a second time.The first time it happened the "collection committee" would give him a choice of paying up immediately or a free swim in the gulf.The second time they would get the money AND give him a free swim.This happens here for 100 dollars much less 90K.For 90k collectors would lined up for miles to help! He is going to continue doing this until he is taught the consequences of his actions.I hope Chris gets his well earned money and all is well.
 

gutshot

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That's not quite how it works in the casino business. The casino holds zero liability for the chips once they leave their hands. A person can walk up to a blackjack table while you are in the bathroom, grab your chips acting like they are their own and be gone. The casino is not going to give you the stolen chips back if they don't catch the thief. Super high denomination chips are tracked a little closer, but again, they are not responsible for them and will cash them unless they were directly stolen from the casino itself and have you on camera doing so.



This is what I was told yesterday by someone who knows exactly how this works (and knows Dippy Dave very well). You would take the chips to the casino that issued them, regardless of the denomination, telling them you won the the money from David Peat, who is well known to all the casinos. They would call David to verify the win, and then cash the chips for the holder. The only way it wouldn't work is if he denied losing the chips...which of course would be a lie. Good luck Chris Bartram in getting paid for your legitimate win. :grin:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
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liakos

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Don't make the guy who got wronged into the criminal. The fact of the matter is every gambling situation is different and sometimes you gotta just get down and play and you don't have time to figure out every single detail. I've seen people take posted money off the light before, these things happen. The only important part of it all is that payment gets made, which I'm thinking they will handle.

So true! I'm hoping for everyone's benefit that it gets handle properly!

In other words, Mr. Bartrum gets paid for his hard work!

I read in this thread that dippy needed 1 ball and Chris needed 15 in a game and dippy lost! That's a lot of WORK right there;)
 

jay helfert

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That's not quite how it works in the casino business. The casino holds zero liability for the chips once they leave their hands. A person can walk up to a blackjack table while you are in the bathroom, grab your chips acting like they are their own and be gone. The casino is not going to give you the stolen chips back if they don't catch the thief. Super high denomination chips are tracked a little closer, but again, they are not responsible for them and will cash them unless they were directly stolen from the casino itself and have you on camera doing so.

In most of the major Vegas hotels any chip up to $1,000 is easy to cash. $5,000 or higher and they want to verify your action. Last month when I won over 10K they asked me if I wanted two $5,000 chips and I told them no, that I wanted all $1,000 chips. That way there is no delay when cashing them. Ten $1,000 chips is a lot easier to carry then $10,000 in cash. Still got five left too! :thumbup:
 

jay helfert

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Since you're from Southern Indiana....what do you think Herbert "Daddy Warbucks" Cokes would have done with Dippy? :eek:

Ken

It wouldn't have happened with Hubert. His rep was well known and he was respected and FEARED! I never saw anyone get so much reverence in the poolrooms. Even the hard core hustlers said "hello Mr. Cokes" to him. Everyone was on their best behavior when he was around. He was like a Godfather in the pool world.
 
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