AT SBE: Russian Kenny + Josh Brothers = well, you know

If the rail was dumped it was for Kenny's bets. There was only 3 other big betters there, besides me. I know 2 of them definately are not con men. The third quietly bet 100 a game occasionally. I made some money, as did one other. The other 2 were losers.

All the suspected dumps only happen on his bets. So I either dont bet with him if I chose the player opposite (so he wont be getting my money) or if I choose the same person I just take up the bets from him. Mostly when he is around I plug my ears, what an obnoxious loud foul person, his parents should be very very proud.

With all due respect, you don't know who you were around. You only saw 3 that you knew of. You are in tune with what was going on, but there are some parts you may have missed. Probably avoided them but you missed it for sure.
 
I like you man but I can't pity you if you get involved in the action the pit and get burnt. There is no honor among thieves. so you gotta know that they will use any angle to rob there own mother let alone you lol
 
With all due respect, you don't know who you were around. You only saw 3 that you knew of. You are in tune with what was going on, but there are some parts you may have missed. Probably avoided them but you missed it for sure.

I work that pit like a futures exchange. There were very few active betters and I knew them all. There were just a few instances of potential dumps...then again how many free 400 plus dollar bets does it take to make a few thousand?Therein lies the beauty and the rub.
 
I bet you paid him without incident too right?

Another nice move. I'll have to remember that one.

What do you think would have happened had he won?

Maybe the check would have been in the mail....maybe not.

Yes I paid. I am a man of my word. You can bet I would have got mine as well. I am not one to put up with BS. I have way to many friends there and had one of them with me at the table. Allen Hopkins is a friend of mine as well so things would have been OK.
 
are you having some drinks?

if he *didn't* make those last three balls after not taking the easy combo to win in the beginning, he probably would have been strung up then and there.

best,
brian kc

I doubt he was dumping but he is piss poor at it if he was. He won the match but didn't shoot a combo which you would have shot and therefore he dumped.

Back to reality.
 
I doubt he was dumping but he is piss poor at it if he was. He won the match but didn't shoot a combo which you would have shot and therefore he dumped.

Back to reality.

Earlier in this thread you said you wondered if you were "slow".

I have been pretty straight-forward in what I have said here and, again, I don't take it lightly to say someone dumped a game. Do I have enough credibility for you to believe that or do you have me figured for some sort of an idiot?

Your "doubt he was dumping" is based on what exactly? Your view of the pit from St Louis?

And just to be clear(er), I'm not basing that he dumped on his not shooting a combo *I would have shot*. I'm basing it on him not shooting a combo *anyone who wanted an immediate win* would have shot.

That by itself was enough but then there were even a couple of other indicators.

best,
brian kc
 
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Hard to judge without seeing it. The op should post the a picture so we can get a look at it. Sometimes running the table can be better, and at other times it's stupid, way to stupid to be chosen by a professional.

we no longer have a wei table and the one someone linked to earlier didn't work so I will describe the shot.

A Diamond barbox, the 10 ball is about 4 inches out from the side pocket and approx. 1 inch below the side. The 2 ball is about an inch the other side of the foot spot and maybe an inch above the spot, not far from the 10.

You have ball in hand for the easy combo to win.

That was the shot.

I was far from being alone in my disgust.

best,
brian kc
 
Sbe

Let me just say this from years of experience. I have worked the sbe for the past 15 years and alot of the games in the pit are set up.

For those "not in the know" its really how alot of these guys get their cash to keep gambling through the weekend.

They make all this noise in the pit attracting all types of people and they get roped in by wanting to be part of the action by side betting.

Doesnt matter who is playing at any given time some bs can happen.

All of these guys know each other. If player a has $100 worth of side action and player b has $400 worth of side action player a will dump letting player b win collecting $400. Later on during the night player b gives player a $200. They split it.

I have seen it happen a hundred times. Usually its in the bathroom or outside during a smoke break.
 
I just want to put it out there that I had $200 bet on josh that specific game and I con assure you he wasn't dumping. But I did not take the time to read all this posts but I can say this KENNY BRINGS OUT THE WORST IN PEOPLE. but that does not mean he and josh were together in dumping. Josh just like every other pool player on earth dogs it once in awhile. so don't think just cause he passed up a 2-10 combo that was not DEAD ON JUST TO CLEAR THAT PART UP. but just cause he went for the run out don't mean it was a dump. If we were gonna call everyone out who missed an easy shot and say it was a dump well you can add * of the top players in the world on that list because in the pit at the sbe I witnessed many top players miss easy shots and not get out on easy outs. But that is considered dumping huh? come on people wtf you guys are killing action destroying POOL with these stupid comments and remarks. so if you cant take the loss then DONT BET YOUR MONEY..............PERIOD
 
Probably has nothing to do with whether or not he'd dump, but I've played Josh Brothers in a regional tournament and found him to be the nicest, most respectful player I've ever met. Period.
 
Probably has nothing to do with whether or not he'd dump, but I've played Josh Brothers in a regional tournament and found him to be the nicest, most respectful player I've ever met. Period.

Me, too. :smile:
 

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I hear Kenny has been betting good in North Jersey with no issue at all. Posting the money and everything with a 3rd party, he got beat for a healthy sum last night. He's got a rep though, I wonder how much of it he actually earned versus what is blown out of proportion. Probably the 80/20 rule, I'm not convinced which side is the 80% though.
 
ive known both josh and Kenny since they were 15 years old and out the 2 of them I put my money with josh without any fear of him dumping me. but he does dog it though but that's not dumping. but he is a good kid.
 
Kenny

He might postvwhen made to...only because of all the scams he runs. Guy hasnt scored in a couple years...great karma is a bit(h...reap the whirlwind sucker.
 
I just want to put it out there that I had $200 bet on josh that specific game and I con assure you he wasn't dumping. But I did not take the time to read all this posts but I can say this KENNY BRINGS OUT THE WORST IN PEOPLE. but that does not mean he and josh were together in dumping. Josh just like every other pool player on earth dogs it once in awhile. so don't think just cause he passed up a 2-10 combo that was not DEAD ON JUST TO CLEAR THAT PART UP. but just cause he went for the run out don't mean it was a dump. If we were gonna call everyone out who missed an easy shot and say it was a dump well you can add * of the top players in the world on that list because in the pit at the sbe I witnessed many top players miss easy shots and not get out on easy outs. But that is considered dumping huh? come on people wtf you guys are killing action destroying POOL with these stupid comments and remarks. so if you cant take the loss then DONT BET YOUR MONEY..............PERIOD

with all due respect, phillyviper, I will defer to my own eyeballs and ears on this one - the nice kid dumped the game. period, there is no question.

I know your rep is a little shaky around here, so, thx for your input but I'm sticking with my story.

best,
brian kc
 
with all due respect, phillyviper, I will defer to my own eyeballs and ears on this one - the nice kid dumped the game. period, there is no question.

I know your rep is a little shaky around here, so, thx for your input but I'm sticking with my story.

best,
brian kc

Call it what you want. see it how you want to but there was no dump. and as far as my rep being a little shaky that's a false statement too but its all good. Cause the bottom line is josh won so where is the dump ???????????? also all you wanna be pool players that sit on this forum and love to run your mouth about this and that and who is good action who is bad action is a joke and it means NOTHING . Kenny owes the world money yet there are 500 people willing to bet with him So go figure . that says a lot for how much people care about this forum . and as for me I could care less what people think because I sleep great at night every night regardless of what people think or say about me. because the fact is I OWE NO ONE NOTHING AND NO ONE OWES ME NOTHING. So back to the case point JOSH DID NOT DUMP SO KEEP YOUR IDIOTIC COMMENTS TO YOURSELF FOOL.
 
Call it what you want. see it how you want to but there was no dump. and as far as my rep being a little shaky that's a false statement too but its all good. Cause the bottom line is josh won so where is the dump ???????????? also all you wanna be pool players that sit on this forum and love to run your mouth about this and that and who is good action who is bad action is a joke and it means NOTHING . Kenny owes the world money yet there are 500 people willing to bet with him So go figure . that says a lot for how much people care about this forum . and as for me I could care less what people think because I sleep great at night every night regardless of what people think or say about me. because the fact is I OWE NO ONE NOTHING AND NO ONE OWES ME NOTHING. So back to the case point JOSH DID NOT DUMP SO KEEP YOUR IDIOTIC COMMENTS TO YOURSELF FOOL.

okay, will do.

thx viper.

best,
brian kc
 
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