has anyone heard about a $$$ match JL vs. VV?

Why would JL not rack for herself or break for herself? Something physcially wrong?

NS,
It is fairly well known among serious fans that JL has had 8 major back surgeries to help correct her congenital scoliosis (she is the national spokesperson for the National Scoliosis Foundation, and has raised a LOT of money for the foundation, as well as mentors many young girls suffering through the condition). I believe these surgeries (including 3 major ones since 2004) have included metal rods/plates/screws placed in 3 stages from skull to tail bone, then all removed in 3 stages, then one segment replaced, and then re-adjusted). On a good day the pain is average, many days are agonizing.

To me, she is one of the competitors I most admire in all of sport. Most patients with even one back surgery (and most are not as bad as the very involved ones that scoliosis patients must undergo) are disabled, and almost all patients with 2 back surgeries are disabled. For her to continue to compete under such conditions (the result has been continuous pain when playing pool) is almost unbelieveable - a testament to her love for the game. In practice she can rest the back when it needs it (though practice is still quite challenging for her); in competition she can't. I have not once heard her use her back as an excuse for poor performances though it has been a factor in every match she has played the last 16 years and has severely limited the amount of time she can practice; I would be blubbering like a baby if I had to contend with that level of discomfort.

Racking the balls is incredibly challenging for her; and in a long match impossible. In long gambling matches against men she does indeed ask for a designated breaker to at least break half of her games, as the breaking is very painful for her also.

This is the reason I always feel comfortable in saying to whomever posts on this forum (and the forum DOES include many true pool fanatics.....like me....), "she definitely loves the game more than you do."
 
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Just a little update; the matches will be played from 4 PM to 12 MN each day; other details I posted above are correct.

Anyone wanting to bet $1000 or more on Vivian let me know (money will need to be posted ahead of time).



Willie, are you betting this 1k yourself or is this a post for George or Jeanette?
 
I wouldnt count VV out just yet guys. For the cheese she can shoot. Ive always seen jeanette as a better tourney player and VV as a better money player. Itll be good to finally put this theory to the test.
 
AZBilliards is making every attempt to stream this match. We have a sponsor to cover our expenses and there is the possibility that Fast Lenny will come as well and then we could (I think, not sure of tech stuff) stream this both to AZBTV and OnTheRail as well as archive it.

I have left voice and email messages for the owners of the pool room. As yet, I have received no response from them. I will try to reach them again today.
 
This match wont even be close.

Anyone who wants VV action, I want JL, and trust me, she is solid for the cash, dont kid yourself.

Ken
 
Sounds great, Jerry. Looking forward to seeing this stream if it can happen.

I've never heard of VV gambling so it will be interesting to watch. It's unfortunate that she doesn't show well under ESPN's lights...she keeps making it to the TV rounds and struggling. Hopefully a streamed event bodes well for her.
 
Interesting, EVERYBODY thinks JL is going to win! And I mean EVERYBODY! Can I get 2-1 on the money and take VV. I'll put up $250 to your $500. I'm sure I have the worst of it too.
 
Interesting, EVERYBODY thinks JL is going to win! And I mean EVERYBODY! Can I get 2-1 on the money and take VV. I'll put up $250 to your $500. I'm sure I have the worst of it too.



7-5 is the best I'll do and only for you Jay.
 
I wouldnt count VV out just yet guys. For the cheese she can shoot. Ive always seen jeanette as a better tourney player and VV as a better money player. Itll be good to finally put this theory to the test.

if you like vv ill bet on jeanette.
 
Still lookin for a good offer from someone to make me take VV in this match. She is Mexican and you know how tough the mexican pool players are, I do think she has a chance, but she's an underdog...I'm thinking 3.5:2 odds will make me bite on something...someone bet $350 to my $200 and they can have JL....Anyone???
 
Interesting, EVERYBODY thinks JL is going to win! And I mean EVERYBODY! Can I get 2-1 on the money and take VV. I'll put up $250 to your $500. I'm sure I have the worst of it too.

Since it is you I'll go for your $249.99 to my $400

That's a special offer only for you my friend :)
 
why? as already pointed out VV has been having a strong year. and if its a long race ahead that definitely give the edge to VV due to JL's physical condition.

brian

I've seen them both gamble and Jeanette is far superior. Jeanette goes into another gear when gambling, Vivian doesn't. Also Vivian doesn't play nearly as intelligently as Jeanette does. It's like she's not even thinking most of the time and it gets her into trouble. Jeanette on the other hand is a cold killer for the cash, I would rate her gambling game a ball or a ball and half higher than her tournament game.
 
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AZBilliards is making every attempt to stream this match. We have a sponsor to cover our expenses and there is the possibility that Fast Lenny will come as well and then we could (I think, not sure of tech stuff) stream this both to AZBTV and OnTheRail as well as archive it.

I have left voice and email messages for the owners of the pool room. As yet, I have received no response from them. I will try to reach them again today.

I'm pretty sure they have a lot of offers to stream this epic event. Their probably busy sorting them out;). Johnnyt
 
Does anyone know who's putting up the cash for the ladies? vivian must have a rich uncle, cuz who in their right mind.....
 
Bunch of knockers........

Interesting, EVERYBODY thinks JL is going to win! And I mean EVERYBODY! Can I get 2-1 on the money and take VV. I'll put up $250 to your $500. I'm sure I have the worst of it too.

Ha Ha ..... Good thing the money is posted. Or whoever put VV in, might want a refund. I might bet VV, if someone will put up $400 against $100. VV has to get out of the gate fast to take this match.
 
What is the game

I don't think JL is so sure who's favored.:eek:
She is already asking for a spot from The Texas Tornado.

What's the deal. Is it just designated Racker only?
or will JL have Helena breaking for her?? :grin:
 
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