name 1 great player that dont have a championship title

Realizm said:
Someone who has NOT won the big one. I would say Mark Tad He was and still is a very very strong player, and never snapped off any Big ones.

P.S he played In DDC about 3 years with a cue he got at Wal-Mart and got in the cash placing something like 10 place in the banks event out of 200 plus players..
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Mark Tadd won two divisions (9-Ball and Banks) and finished second in the One Pocket to Steve Cook in the 1992 L.A. Open. He beat Roger Griffis in the 9-Ball finals and Donny Anderson in the Banks. The field was full of good players (128 in the 9-Ball and 77 in One Pocket). Plus he won $26,000 total, the biggest win that year in professional pool.
 
Cornerman said:
I guess I don't understand your question.

But... I'll answer with:

Don Willis and Dick Leonard.

Fred <~~~ note: I guess I did understand your question while others really didn't
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yea just about everyone is naming players with championship titles allready but i guess like someone pointed out in a earlier post u have to have won DCC U.S open world 9 ball championships to be considerd a champion
 
jay helfert said:
Keith won the 1986 B.C. Open in Binghampton, NY. ALL the top players were entered (Mizerak, Sigel, Hopkins, Rempe, Varner et al). First place paid $25,000! HELLO!
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I think part of the problem is we don't have much agreement on what the "majors" are in pool. It's clear Keith had to beat a tremendous tough field in that tourney and won what I'd call real money. And yet I haven't heard of that tournament and I can't find it by googling. I have no idea if it's ongoing. And I'm much more interested than the average pool fan.

Whereas (we all saw this coming) any armchair golf fan can probably name 3 or 4 well-defined majors. I never played a round in my life but I can say: The Masters, US Open, PGA tour cup.

So he has a tournament win and it was vs. the toughest pros around but some guys might quibble and nitpick that it's not a championship title. I'm not one of them but I think that's part of the reason we get a lot of unusual suggestions in this thread.
 
I will say Bustamante and Yang-chin-Shun .

Btw, ppl said that Yang-Chin-Shun is the greatest money player ( of course we won't forget Efren ) , so I wonder it's like no problems for him if he missed some titles : he already got all the respects and money :thumbup:.
 
Marvel said:
He has won three Majors but not a World Title.

Biggest he has won was bigger than Django has ever won; The Qatar Open 2008.
40K for the winner and the toughest field in the last 2,5 years.

He's also won the BCA and Predator International, which comes close after "the real Majors", WPC and US:Open.
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um...didn't he win the Challenge of Champions $50,000 winner take all in two different years?:rolleyes:
 
JohnPT said:
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Here are some of his wins:

2009 Predator International Ten-ball
2008 Asian Nine-ball Tour, China Leg
2008 World Nine-ball Open
2007 World Straight Pool Championship 5th place
2007 World Eight-ball Championship 2nd place
2007 BCA Open Nine-ball Champion
2006 World Pool League Champion
2006 US Bar Table Champion ( eight-ball)
2006 Reno Open winner (nine-ball)
2006 Hard Times Billiards Summer Jamboree winner (nine-ball)
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thought bustamante came in 2nd at the '07 world straight pool championships?
 
I know that Busty just won the World 9 Ball Championships, so that is a major to me. The two that come to my mind that are always in finals of something, DCC, WPC but never see finish are Rodolfo Luat & Warren Kiamco. They are very underrated players that I think can beat anyone. They are both great all around players.
 
pt109 said:
He won the Pro Tour Players Championship...i think he beat Efren in
the finals...just as tough as winning the World title back then but not as
tough as the US Open where he finished 2nd.
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Yep he beat a murderers row line up in that event !

I got it on tape somewhere.

It was truely a major victory !
 
Depwnds which Monk you are talking about

TheBook said:
How about 2.

Cornbread Red.

The self proclaimed great "The Monk"
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There's the monk that has the instructional series, and then there's the monk that looks like a monkey...lol he was a champion...The other I can't say one way or the other.


Jaden
 
robleyf7 said:
yea just about everyone is naming players with championship titles allready but i guess like someone pointed out in a earlier post u have to have won DCC U.S open world 9 ball championships to be considerd a champion
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Give it a rest on the DCC people. That is in no way an elite enough tournament to be considered alongside the WPC and US Open. It has some champs, and a whole slew of shortstops.

IMO the BCA pro event is a more elite field each year with match after match of alot tougher competition. And the BCA should "NOT" get counted because of their absurd short races in the finals made for TV.

The Tokyo Open is an elite field, longer races, easily a major.

The Qatar event Orcullo won was an obvious major with a world class field.

The IPT tournaments were very clearly major events, althought they were won by people who would qualify on world championships anyhow.

In effect if you have a slew of players from the Philipines, Europe, and Taiwan you have a major event. Want to know if you have a major? Are Ralf Souquet, Mika Immonen, Dennis Orcullo, Lee Van Corteza, Po Kuo and Yang Chin Shun in the event? It is a major. Those guys play all the big ones, except the US Open which imo "should" get more players from Taiwan.
 
Crazy Billy Weir

When I was alot younger I know he was considered to be one of the greatest players. I watched Billy Weir in some real nail biters for all the dough. He always said he hated tournys though cause he could gamble with the field and make 10x 's as much money as the tournament winner did. He taught me alot about pool and about gambling. Great guy that I really respect. Wish he had played some of those tournys to see how good he was against some of the greats.
 
Hello!!!

jay helfert said:
Keith won the 1986 B.C. Open in Binghampton, NY. ALL the top players were entered (Mizerak, Sigel, Hopkins, Rempe, Varner et al). First place paid $25,000! HELLO!
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I think that Jay would be the first person to answer these questions.
But If I was to quess(meaning not knowing) I would have to say Big table 9ball or 10 ball would be, Dave Matlock(who I havent seen for a few years hope he is at dcc. The tournaments I would think of as championships would involve 100 of the best players in th country with a spatter of good shortstops.
 
robleyf7 said:
name 1 male great pool player that has NOT!! won a championship title that deserves one
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The way I see it, the only players that deserve championship titles are the ones who already have them. Until you earn it by sinking the winning ball, I have trouble accepting the idea that you somehow deserve it.

Robert
 
apa8ballchump said:
I think that Jay would be the first person to answer these questions.
But If I was to quess(meaning not knowing) I would have to say Big table 9ball or 10 ball would be, Dave Matlock(who I havent seen for a few years hope he is at dcc. The tournaments I would think of as championships would involve 100 of the best players in th country with a spatter of good shortstops.
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Dave is a good call I'd say........he has won the "Major" for bank pool players with his win in banks at DDC in 05......where he also got 2nd in the master of the table.....

he was arguably one of the three best to ever play on the BB (Keith, Dave,Buddy)beat the Canadian 3cushion champion back in the day. Played/s excellent in any pool game and is a good 3cushion and snooker player as well. He's older now sure but still has some gas left and he's been one of the best REAL ALL AROUND PLAYERS for decades, and when i say all around I mean anything with green cloth rails and a set of balls and stick......


Tho my choice would not be David if I had to pick just one individual as to say who the best to never win a championship was...........my pick would be.....

DON WILLIS...........


tho i'm timid about my choice because Don's reason for not winning a major title is that HE DIDN'T PLAY TOURNAMENTS.....it was a self imposed thing since he was a top hustler and long running partner of Lassiter......

I think the only person I can think of that I remember off hand (i think....tell me BS if i'm making this up) to really beat Don Willis was Harold Worst........

Take it a little further..........they say that Artie B. had the best track record around in One pocket.....for Artie to have beaten all those old legends and top one hole players and not to have won a major one hole tournament is really odd. (He was like Willis and didn't play tournaments) Tough call tho as Artie only excelled at that high level in One Pocket, and its known that he wasn't the straightest shooter but a mega mover he won purely off his imagination and knowledge of moving.




-Grey Ghost-
 
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