I really enjoyed watching this thread get hijacked. It's kind of artistic, maybe even more artistic then the bite.
Ronnie Wiseman stiff's me for $3900
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donny mills said:
It is interesting how things migrate, but my original Sonny Liston remark was made in the context of his being a debt collector. In this case if the mob, who owned Sonny's contract and for whom he worked outside the ring as well as inside, had been backing the pool player who got stiffed out of a few thousand bucks there would be an excellent chance that somebody would have had the unique pleasure of meeting Sonny face to face. Certainly nobody is advocating such measures in this case. I'm sure these gentlemen will be able to settle their differences without resorting to such barbaric means.
I could tell a couple Sonny Liston stories but I'll pass.
JoeyInCali said:
Quote Memikey: Real fuzzy jimmy!
I remember clearly as a young boy in Uk getting up in the middle of the night to watch the second fight, going to the kitchen to make some tea and toast and coming back through to the living room to find the fight over, all half a round of it
The first fight had the incident with contamination of his eyes, whether accidental from cuts fluids on Liston's face or something more sinister we'll never know. It was also the fight in which Liston eventually refused to come out for the 7th which was a couple of rounds after the eyes problem for Clay.
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Thanks, I guess I stand corrected, and a lot less fuzzy!
Jim
Ask Johnny
Ask Johnny how he feels about Corey. Dont listen to anyone on here, just ask Johnny if he thinks his buddy cut him up.
corvette1340 said:
Ask Johnny how he feels about Corey. Dont listen to anyone on here, just ask Johnny if he thinks his buddy cut him up.
Fatboy, your thoughts?
Fatboy, you are good friends with Johnny. What does he think about Corey and this deal?
JamieMcWhorter said:
Fatboy, you are good friends with Johnny. What does he think about Corey and this deal?
Ali
Yep. You got it right. Showtimes been repeating a movie, Kings Of The Rings, or something like that. I watched it twice. Did you remember that Clay-Ali was a money underdog even in the SECOND fight?? The fellows had to recover what they had lost unexpectedly in the first one. Ali taunted Liston and yelled for him to get up. It only took him a few seconds to figure out how to act it out, career wise, and from then on, it was some type punch he got from Johnson. Funny, he didn't use it any more when it was needed with Norton, Spinks, Holmes, Frazier, etc....
SJDinPHX said:Robert, Absolutely correct. The dump was the second fight. It was the last time I ever bet on a boxing match. Liston accidently stunned Clay in the first few minutes. Clay (Ali) was flailing wildly when Liston went down
for the count without ever being touched. He almost forgot he was supposed to "tank" in the 1st round.
Dick
PS Thats where the "Big, Bad Guy's had their money, 1st round K.O.
Yep. You got it right. Showtimes been repeating a movie, Kings Of The Rings, or something like that. I watched it twice. Did you remember that Clay-Ali was a money underdog even in the SECOND fight?? The fellows had to recover what they had lost unexpectedly in the first one. Ali taunted Liston and yelled for him to get up. It only took him a few seconds to figure out how to act it out, career wise, and from then on, it was some type punch he got from Johnson. Funny, he didn't use it any more when it was needed with Norton, Spinks, Holmes, Frazier, etc....
JamieMcWhorter
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DrawtheRock said:
Johnny would have to be a 12 year old nieve school girl to think they were that close of friends...They had been playing 10 k golf matches vs each other Johnny beat the guy for like 15 k once and then thought he was completely stealing and bet high as the sky and got robbed simple...I know for a fact that Corey didnt hardly bet anything the 2nd time they played because he wasnt even sure the guy could beat Johnny...
Poolplaya9 said:
You were wrong before, and your wrong again.
If he didn't take precautions against getting heisted, it's his fault he didn't get paid.
If you fail to understand this, then you deserve to get stiffed repeatedly.
As for the IQ, we can take the Pepsi challenge on who is the bigger brain whenever you friggin want, for whatever bet you want.
Here you go IQ guy, practice up!
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=58088
jasonlaus said:
LOL.
Funny.
I remember a time i got stiffed before i knew any better YEARS ago.
The guy was a losing gambler, and never had any issues paying when he lost in the past, and this one time, i drilled him.
He did the usual excuses, and faked trying to get money out of the machine etc etc, but in the end, he came up short.
He owed me a little over a couple of dimes.
He then proceeded to disappear and i only saw him a couple of times after that, each time met with some excuse.
So i didn't see him for a bunch of years, when at the local tournament, i bumped into a guy that had recently started playing pool again after dropping out of the scene for a long time.
So we chit chatted and were talking about who was doing what, when this guys name came up.
The person i was talking to said that the stiffer had bought a house right down the street from him.
I was like..."REEEEALLY!"
So i then proceeded to do some detective work, and found out that this guy was STILL doing the scamming bit, just this time, he was married to 2 different girls at the same time.
I stalked him and took tons of pictures, and then one day, i simply just drove to his place, walked up to the door, and knocked when i knew he was alone.
He answered and was completely surprised when i said "Hi ___!"
I then showed him 2 photos, one with each wife. He looked at them looked at me, and then calmly walked inside the house.
When he returned, he handed me a wad of money, and said "I take it our business is done?
I replied, "it is now" and i gave him the pictures and walked away.
The money was exactly what he owed me.
So, let me get this straight....
...if someone robs a bank, it's the bank's fault for not having good enough security? We let the bank robber off scot free because it's not really his fault?:shakehead:
...if someone gets shot in a drive-by, well he should have seen it coming and worn Kevlar? Can't blame the shooter of course cause it's obviously the victim's fault.:scratchhead:
...if a sociopath posts moronic drivel on AZB, well, I gues we should blame his mother for not making sure she didn't get pregnant!
I guess in your world Superstar ShawnD owns Ronnie an apology for putting him in the position of having to stiff Shawn for $3900. Shame on you Shawn!:frown:
MM...personal responsibility - WHAT A CONCEPT!
SUPERSTAR said:
...if someone robs a bank, it's the bank's fault for not having good enough security? We let the bank robber off scot free because it's not really his fault?:shakehead:
...if someone gets shot in a drive-by, well he should have seen it coming and worn Kevlar? Can't blame the shooter of course cause it's obviously the victim's fault.:scratchhead:
...if a sociopath posts moronic drivel on AZB, well, I gues we should blame his mother for not making sure she didn't get pregnant!
I guess in your world Superstar ShawnD owns Ronnie an apology for putting him in the position of having to stiff Shawn for $3900. Shame on you Shawn!:frown:
MM...personal responsibility - WHAT A CONCEPT!
And it's going to be your mom's/wife's/daughter's/girlfriend's/sister's fault if they ever get raped and aren't carrying a pistol at the time. Real smart logic there fella...SUPERSTAR said:
But like I had said, I wasn't holding my breath...
And I'm not about to bet with you on an online IQ test. I do give you some credit. You're smart enough to get somebody with some actual intelligence to take the test so you could submit their test scores. We already know you would do it too, because it's always the other guy's fault if they fail to prevent a scam...
Sounds like you're a better pool player than you give yourself credit for. Whether he was having a bad day of not, you played for two days and he couldn't hit a ball? You weren't just having a good day and he was off, you are obviously a good pool player. I hope you get you money either way.
MikeM said:...if someone robs a bank, it's the bank's fault for not having good enough security? We let the bank robber off scot free because it's not really his fault?:shakehead:
...if someone gets shot in a drive-by, well he should have seen it coming and worn Kevlar? Can't blame the shooter of course cause it's obviously the victim's fault.:scratchhead:
...if a sociopath posts moronic drivel on AZB, well, I gues we should blame his mother for not making sure she didn't get pregnant!
I guess in your world Superstar ShawnD owns Ronnie an apology for putting him in the position of having to stiff Shawn for $3900. Shame on you Shawn!:frown:
MM...personal responsibility - WHAT A CONCEPT!
I will say that the first time is always an eye opener. A lesson well learned for future gambling situations. I highly doubt this was the first time someone betting that amount of money got stiffed.
If the person does not take the necessary precautions to prevent getting stiffed, he had it coming to him. Simple as that.
In the world of pool, it is BETTER to assume that most hard core gamblers have at LEAST a % of their personalities that are scumbag.
So, knowing that, a leopard can't change it's spots.
A poolplayer can't stop being scumbag, so....preventative maintenance.
Kevlar and drive bys have nothing to do with gambling. And you talk about moronic? LOL
