I am officially declaring that there is no chance in hell that it was a dump. And for all that think it was, get out there and bet high, bet your own, and then your opinion might be worth something......
Scooter Goodman - 2014 DCC
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I am officially declaring that there is no chance in hell that it was a dump. And for all that think it was, get out there and bet high, bet your own, and then your opinion might be worth something......
I agree , the real good thieves are different, they dress nicer and are respected..
They move like a ghost, take millions of people off daily and very few are the wiser.
What's up Lutman? You get in any action?
Hallelujah to that! :yes:
The Real Story
I just happened to click on this particular thread this evening and couldn't believe how so many people were in the room and no one knows exactly what happened.
I know how many of you feel about Scooter and I have had my conversations with him as well. I'm not going to speak about the car wash incident but I feel you guys should at least know a little bit of what you're talking about.
I bet the entire amount, every penny, against Carl so I believe I have the most knowledge of the situation. My wife and I also work very hard for every dollar we have and every dollar I may put in play. I had no intention of betting that high on one game but I was pressed by a Whale when the odds were in my favor. I had not done anything with Scooter all week but he as the only one that was able to get down with Carl. I looked past Scooter and more at the opportunity. Scooter and I spoke and I decided to let him play for 10K. I was loser at the time and was willing to take a shot.
Once Scooter one the first game, Carl asked to press. I'm now getting a game on the wire to 3 so I accepted. We then had a argument about a foul that I tried to handle the most gentlemen way I could and I let them re-rack the balls. I believed in my heart it was a foul but I felt the right call would show up in the end of the set. I was wrong.
Once the set became 2-2, Carl broke dry and Scooter had no shot on the one. Carl said once again would you like to press? Scooter said No. He was super nervous and wanted me to hold the money in case we needed a 2nd set. I stood up, viewed the table, and decided it was a great bet. Scooter had an easy safe that I felt would grant him ball in hand. Guess what ... it did. I have Scooter shooting ball in hand for the entire amount. He hit the 3 too soft and had to roll the 5 on the 4 hoping for a chance back at the table. I was then hit with the river card I'll never forget. Carl made a great shot and won the game.
There was no business on this race. It was originally for 10K and would have remain for that amount if I hadn't shown so much gamble. Scooter did not once ask me to press. It was completely on me !!
I'm not going back and forth on this thread but I wanted to share the story. There was not a group that got stung but just me. Scooter did not bet one dollar on this set. It was all me. I'm the one trying to swallow it while you guys talk about so many different stories.
I'm not at all defending Scooter. He would be the first one to tell you how I felt about what he did and that I don't approve at all. He messed up and he listened to me respectfully when I told him so. We have had words in the past and I hope he does change for the better. These are individual decisions we all must make.
One more crazy year at DCC for J Rock ... I hope there is a good story one day. The great thing is, I'm home with my family and have so many things to be Thankful for. God Bless
I just happened to click on this particular thread this evening and couldn't believe how so many people were in the room and no one knows exactly what happened.
I know how many of you feel about Scooter and I have had my conversations with him as well. I'm not going to speak about the car wash incident but I feel you guys should at least know a little bit of what you're talking about.
I bet the entire amount, every penny, against Carl so I believe I have the most knowledge of the situation. My wife and I also work very hard for every dollar we have and every dollar I may put in play. I had no intention of betting that high on one game but I was pressed by a Whale when the odds were in my favor. I had not done anything with Scooter all week but he as the only one that was able to get down with Carl. I looked past Scooter and more at the opportunity. Scooter and I spoke and I decided to let him play for 10K. I was loser at the time and was willing to take a shot.
Once Scooter one the first game, Carl asked to press. I'm now getting a game on the wire to 3 so I accepted. We then had a argument about a foul that I tried to handle the most gentlemen way I could and I let them re-rack the balls. I believed in my heart it was a foul but I felt the right call would show up in the end of the set. I was wrong.
Once the set became 2-2, Carl broke dry and Scooter had no shot on the one. Carl said once again would you like to press? Scooter said No. He was super nervous and wanted me to hold the money in case we needed a 2nd set. I stood up, viewed the table, and decided it was a great bet. Scooter had an easy safe that I felt would grant him ball in hand. Guess what ... it did. I have Scooter shooting ball in hand for the entire amount. He hit the 3 too soft and had to roll the 5 on the 4 hoping for a chance back at the table. I was then hit with the river card I'll never forget. Carl made a great shot and won the game.
There was no business on this race. It was originally for 10K and would have remain for that amount if I hadn't shown so much gamble. Scooter did not once ask me to press. It was completely on me !!
I'm not going back and forth on this thread but I wanted to share the story. There was not a group that got stung but just me. Scooter did not bet one dollar on this set. It was all me. I'm the one trying to swallow it while you guys talk about so many different stories.
I'm not at all defending Scooter. He would be the first one to tell you how I felt about what he did and that I don't approve at all. He messed up and he listened to me respectfully when I told him so. We have had words in the past and I hope he does change for the better. These are individual decisions we all must make.
One more crazy year at DCC for J Rock ... I hope there is a good story one day. The great thing is, I'm home with my family and have so many things to be Thankful for. God Bless
You have unbelievable gamble. Hat's off to you.
Hold On
Sort of a cheap shot to those of us who work or have worked in the Stocks/Bonds/Commodities/Currency Trading Business..when you say "a lot more" you should be able to back that up. I don't believe for a second that "There are a lot more "thieves" in coats and ties on Wall Street than we will ever see in the gambling world"...ridiculous statement. Dont judge an entire industry by a few infamous stories that make headlines. The Brokers/Traders I know are honest and play by the rules.
Are all MLB players cheaters because of A-Rod, Bonds, Clemens, McGuire, Sosa and maybe even 10 others??
Sort of a cheap shot to those of us who work or have worked in the Stocks/Bonds/Commodities/Currency Trading Business..when you say "a lot more" you should be able to back that up. I don't believe for a second that "There are a lot more "thieves" in coats and ties on Wall Street than we will ever see in the gambling world"...ridiculous statement. Dont judge an entire industry by a few infamous stories that make headlines. The Brokers/Traders I know are honest and play by the rules.
Are all MLB players cheaters because of A-Rod, Bonds, Clemens, McGuire, Sosa and maybe even 10 others??
Oh puh-lease...like the financial institutions have laws they must conform to and gov't agencies that exist solely the ensue they don't step out of line...
takeitdown
Banned
Entertaining as he can be he is obnoxious. Running around like a cartoon character flashing tens of thousands of dollars. Not impressed. Someday someone will show him how it feels to get robbed, likely at gunpoint.
Still he is more likable than that barking russian hound of his. That guy is derranged.
Still he is more likable than that barking russian hound of his. That guy is derranged.
I agree, and tried to share that.
There has been a lot more millionaires made from Wall Street.
Statements from folks who say that I honestly think are trying to justify not saving and investing. Then blaming the government, the 1%ers, and whatever else because they didn't save and invest.
JMO, your mileage may vary.
Ken
Good post and great attitude. I hope next year you book a big winner...just not at my expense. :thumbup:
Wall street is what it is. I follow the investment philosophy of jack bogle and I am well on my way to retire early. Thanks jack!!!
Dude,
You may really want to re think this statement.
Example: Why does the industry issue so MANY temporary restraining orders??? That is why your friends change companies on Friday after 3:30 when the clerks office closes. That way, they can have all weekend to contact and mail clients about their move. Before the 'TRO' kicks in.
Example: The fee structure is set up in away to CHURN the customers and give an incentive to brokers to generate more FEE's for the firm and ignore whats best for clients by moving clients portfolio's around unnecessarily.
Example: Mutual Funds are known for NOT shopping for the best price for executing trades and utilizing the best clearing houses. The HIGH turn over rate and CHURNING is why good advisers push index funds and low fee structures.
Example: High end clients use TAXSHELTERS to hide their money in the Cayman Island and in Deferred Compensation Packages such as "Coli, Boli" acronyms for corporate owned life insurance and bank owned life insurance. Also known as "Janitors Insurance".
Examples: The industry LOBBIES congress to under fund the SEC and other government regulators in such a way that lawsuits can never be brought due to a lack of resources.
Examples: Market making A.K.A. the Volcker rule and selling based on inside information. So much so that real estate next to financial data centers skyrocketed to gain millisecond advantages with computerized trading desk at the expense of EVERYONE else in the market.
Examples: Wall Street caused the housing bubble and ignored Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac safety guidelines and created their own Mortgage Back Securities that collapsed. Collapsed so bad the federal government forced Freddie and Fannie to buy up bad loans that did not meet their criteria to save the global economies.
Example: Bank of America was forced by the treasury secretary to break the law and not disclose the toxic assets in the Merrell Lynch acquisition that cost investors to watch their stock go from 80 a share to under 10!
Example: Enron used off the books accounting to hide losses and once disclosed caused a run on the stock. Not to mention the energy manipulation in California with the power outages.
Example: Ponzi scheme's from Bernie Madoff and LIBOR rate manipulation by Barclay's who CORNERED the LIBOR market.
Example: Rating agencies were giving stocks and financial instruments ratings based on lucrative business contracts.
Example: Banks borrow from federal reserve at less than 1 percent and loan it out at as high as 20 percent. Loan sharking.
Example: Federal Reserve expands Balance Sheet = print more money out of thin air!
I can go on and on about this topic! I worked for the COO of a broker/dealer who held his JD in Tax Law.
KD
What was the name of the "guy from St Louis"?
The financial industry -"Wall Street"- has helped to create trillions in dollars of wealth by aiding in the efficient allocation of capital. This in turn is not unrelated to the wealth and standard of living that Americans enjoy today vs. almost all other countries. Indicting an entire industry based upon an anecdotal presentation of misdoings is grossly unfair to both the industry and those who make a living in that industry.
...much like indicting an entire pastime and its participants for the wrongdoings of a few is also grossly unfair.
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