The way it really went down
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So, John, number one, do you believe that Billy and Fast Lenny should have not posted on this forum?
Number two, since they did, should they have received zero replies in their threads?
If it makes you feel better JAM, I'm fairly certain that most people realized that your post wasn't to be taken as factual information. I mean, 100 cops? It's an obvious exaggeration, which implied that the rest of the post should *not* be taken too seriously.
Maybe he isn't rested yet.
Wow.
You are all disgusting.
I will keep this thread in mind every time a friend or family member gives me the fisheye for admitting "yeah... I shoot pool" and understand why there will always be a stigma attached to the game.
Honestly, if something were to happen to Dippy, how many of you would have the thought "well, he had it coming" in the back of your mind?
It is a flippin' game. You aren't fixing the world's problems, but are certainly creating an elaborate distraction from them.
Sure... if you can't pay the bet, don't gamble. But how about this: if you can't get over a 'stiffing' then you were betting out of your league, also.
I thank everyone who has posted in this "classic" and "illustrious" thread. I have been looking for a motivation to really push my game along, and now I can dream of when I am able to kick the living sh;t out of people like this on the tournament felt.
That is all.
You are all disgusting.
I will keep this thread in mind every time a friend or family member gives me the fisheye for admitting "yeah... I shoot pool" and understand why there will always be a stigma attached to the game.
Honestly, if something were to happen to Dippy, how many of you would have the thought "well, he had it coming" in the back of your mind?
It is a flippin' game. You aren't fixing the world's problems, but are certainly creating an elaborate distraction from them.
Sure... if you can't pay the bet, don't gamble. But how about this: if you can't get over a 'stiffing' then you were betting out of your league, also.
I thank everyone who has posted in this "classic" and "illustrious" thread. I have been looking for a motivation to really push my game along, and now I can dream of when I am able to kick the living sh;t out of people like this on the tournament felt.
That is all.
That's probably why he was offered to lay down on the pool table. For his rest...
I have had a ton of fun reading this thread this AM......for some strange reason my only question is did they adjust the spot between the 2nd and 3rd set?
dropping 100 large and not adjusting seems like net worth suicide IMO.
besides that, I can't wait to read the rest.....
G.
ps....Having been around a few Samoans, and Tongans for that matter.......they would assume fight as breathe. No lie, I have seen these guys fight among friends because there was no one else to brawl with!
......what ever you do.....don't EVER ask a Samoan/Tongan "hey brudda, you got beef?" you will not like the answer!
dropping 100 large and not adjusting seems like net worth suicide IMO.
besides that, I can't wait to read the rest.....
G.
ps....Having been around a few Samoans, and Tongans for that matter.......they would assume fight as breathe. No lie, I have seen these guys fight among friends because there was no one else to brawl with!
......what ever you do.....don't EVER ask a Samoan/Tongan "hey brudda, you got beef?" you will not like the answer!
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Actually, the only reasons to post a thread about stiffing is so that they can vent to the world about a persons character, and so that people might sympathize with them so that there is an offhand chance that due to outside pressure, someone might be more inclined to square up.
In a lot of instances, it very much becomes a popularity contest and lots of times, the people reading are seldom getting the entire story.
Not to say this one isn't accurate, but to be perfectly honest, there is NO WAY that anyone who was not there, can accept anything that has been said on this forum, as fact.
Anyone who has been around gambling long enough knows that NO ONE can be trusted, and that EVERYONE is suspect, i don't care who they are or how good their reputation is, and believe me, EVERYONE can be in on some ridiculous scam if the price is right.
I'm sure plenty of people can name someone who had a spotless reputation, until THAT ONE TIME, when they USED the spotless reputation to rip someone off.
That is not to say that i am siding with anyone in this thread or accusing anyone, but that is the reality of gambling.
Trust no one!
If you break down $50K over a 20-30 year prison stretch it doesn't come out to a be very good financial decision. Sounds good on the internet though.
Uhhh...lol?
You are assuming that people are not intelligent enough to get away with it.
And it's not about sounding good.
If someone rips off the wrong guy, a hole can be a very realistic possibility.
Wouldn't be the first time it's happened in the gambling world.
I think you should go practice for your tournament and keep your opinions about things you have no idea about to yourself.
You seem like one of those few people who are unable to simply accept that shit happens, and instead have chosen to blame it on the game itself. The world isn't a perfect place, and sometimes, confrontations occur. It doesn't just happens in our sport. It's in all sports; in all facets of life.
Accept it.
Most members on here are trying to sort this out. All you're doing is complaining about it.
Dippy seems to have a pre-determined poor opinion of Scott and his character - that being said, why would Dippy agree to meet Scott privately to pay off the $50K and take the risk that Billy I. and others wouldn't get their share. That seems contradictory to me to the whole Dippy alibi.
No, I don't think that Lenny should have posted. I do not think that this is going to help anyone get paid but it does highlight the fact that Lenny and several others have participated in illegal wagering. Or am I wrong that it is illegal to bet on the side on a pool match in Nevada.
We have had an unspoken rule on AZ and other forums for a long time not to discuss real action in $ terms.
As for the replies - this place is like the national enquirer and everyone has an opinion whether they have a clue or not. The fact is that Lenny invited the drama by posting it in the main forum where it didn't belong anyway. I mean it would gotten plenty in the action forum.
It's an entertaining thread. Threads actually. But as I said it should have stayed off az in my opinion if the people owed wanted to have any chance of getting the money. If I was Scott and Billy I think I would have asked Lenny to refrain from posting until they had exhausted all their means.
And maybe that's what happened.
As for stiffing - my dear I hate to bring this up on the open forum but I think you forgot that my man won this time and he's been there for a year and a half now - so don't forget my $50 next time I see you
(you know I am messing with you and am not sweating it - just don't want you to get the nick name No Penny Jenny.)
Don't hit me............
Your words have good merit, SUPERSTAR!
I am reminded of Tony Watson and Stevie getting robbed at gunpoint in a Waffle Shop parking lot during the wee hours of the morning. This happened after Tony flashed his cabbage at a pool room in Tennessee and departed the premises. They must have been followed.
Shannon, RW, Geese, and Pooky, each one holding large amounts of cash, have all been robbed at gunpoint for five-plus figures that they were holding after visiting a pool room.
Sometimes everything isn't funny when you're playing for big money, but if you're going to engage in games of high stake, it's probably a good idea to not advertise, I guess.
BUT, do you think the pool players who are shooting for the big cheese would enjoy it all the same if there was not one living soul who knew about it? Is part of the allure of these high-stakes games the attention they receive from the community? I have often wondered about this.
It is all about the money, action, winning, or do you believe there are other factors?
BTW, my daughter is graduating in August from nursing school. Yippeeeeeeee! No more bites! :grin-square:
Thanks. She is my niece, Alexa.
The parties involved chose to put it out there so I guess it is open for discussion. However, I dont know where alot of people get off on here trying to play judge, jury and lead investigator. Oh well, unfortunately that is the pool and internet world these days. My take is there is usually 2 sides to every story, and then there is the truth, which is usually found somewhere in the middle.
You really are a sweetie pie. Sensitivity, the ability to empathize and display compassion, is quite an unusual trait for pool peeps. You are going to make a lady very happy someday, if you haven't already!
Oh please. Try reading the news once in a while and you can see that this type of dispute is NOTHING compared to the kind of crap that goes down in the real world every day.
And this has to be one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard in my life. Obviously you don't gamble on pool and have never played for anything significant.
Let's put this into perspective so MAYBE you will get it.
Someone is putting up a lot of money - more than a teacher makes in a year - and giving up a large handicap - they play their heart out and manage to win and then don't get the reward.
Had they lost then they would have paid and taken the beating.
Maybe someday when you have played your heart out for 10 hours and you get stiffed you will understand. I did - 18 years ago - got stiffed for 1800 and I have never gotten over it - I earned that money and got stone cold robbed.
I don't know what you do for a living but why don't you do it for a month and give it your all and see how you feel when your boss says he isn't paying you.
There is nothing wrong with playing pool for money. Get off your high horse. People get jerked around and air barreled and this is what has happened here. Think it doesn't happen elsewhere? Heard of Bernie Madoff?
The only thing I don't want to see is someone get hurt or got to prison over this.
Cardone knows that the money should have been posted. But it wasn't and that where the Scooter Goodman method comes into play.
No, I don't think that Lenny should have posted. I do not think that this is going to help anyone get paid but it does highlight the fact that Lenny and several others have participated in illegal wagering. Or am I wrong that it is illegal to bet on the side on a pool match in Nevada.
We have had an unspoken rule on AZ and other forums for a long time not to discuss real action in $ terms.
As for the replies - this place is like the national enquirer and everyone has an opinion whether they have a clue or not. The fact is that Lenny invited the drama by posting it in the main forum where it didn't belong anyway. I mean it would gotten plenty in the action forum.
It's an entertaining thread. Threads actually. But as I said it should have stayed off az in my opinion if the people owed wanted to have any chance of getting the money. If I was Scott and Billy I think I would have asked Lenny to refrain from posting until they had exhausted all their means.
And maybe that's what happened.
As for stiffing - my dear I hate to bring this up on the open forum but I think you forgot that my man won this time and he's been there for a year and a half now - so don't forget my $50 next time I see you
(you know I am messing with you and am not sweating it - just don't want you to get the nick name No Penny Jenny.)
Don't hit me............
LOLOLOLOLOLOL! You know, I really had not forgotten. Man, I wish I could say you got lucky, but the other side had no shot. I did an interview of him during the campaign, and I could not believe it when he replied to the inquiring party that he had never used e-mail and didn't know how.
I knew right then and there that the other side was going to win! :wink:
In fact, I've got a lot of tidbits about that. Living in D.C. and doing what I do, I hear things. Hopefully, I relayed that right, but I did actually hear it from the horse's mouth! :grin-square:
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