Not un-American , but if ball makers would standardize the colors of the 4 and 6 and change the color of the 9 it would make it easier on my eyes watching streams.Don't like the cyclops sets.Light colored 4 and 6 balls and altered 9 work. Darker 4 and 6 make it harder to distinguish between the 4,6,7 and 8 sometimes.
Using Reds and Yellows in American 8 Ball?
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Not un-American , but if ball makers would standardize the colors of the 4 and 6 and change the color of the 9 it would make it easier on my eyes watching streams.Don't like the cyclops sets.Light colored 4 and 6 balls and altered 9 work. Darker 4 and 6 make it harder to distinguish between the 4,6,7 and 8 sometimes.
Personally I love playing with the casino balls, but I can see why people might get a little confused when it comes to commentary. Either way, the bottom line is that its just not needed to make any game better so it probably won't ever gain popularity. And, any issue with un-numbered balls is the same as the issue with hard to recognize numbered balls; commentator and viewer just have to pay a little more attention.
Oh well. Like sands thru the hourglass, these are the days of our lives.
Oh well. Like sands thru the hourglass, these are the days of our lives.
I use a set of "Reds & Yellows" at my home.... I really like the fact that it's different than solids n stripes. Just because it's different, I like things a little different, usually.
As far as it the game taking off due to changing the balls? I doubt it. Solids n stripes is the norm and usually people don't like things changing. That's my .02¢.... Not worth much, I suppose?!?! LOL
As far as it the game taking off due to changing the balls? I doubt it. Solids n stripes is the norm and usually people don't like things changing. That's my .02¢.... Not worth much, I suppose?!?! LOL
Yes, I think its an excellent. Idear! Actually I've been thinking about exact same thing for a long time now and kinda wondering why someone had not done it yet. Only thing id add to the idea is 8 Ball played with APA rules regardless of size of table. And no, I AM NOT one of those leaguers either lol
The real answer is no.
AS noted before, it was tried and rejected.
What is the source for your fascination with red and yellow?
Easier viewership for the 1% of 1% of pool fans who watch streaming ?
What is the benefit?
The resistance to change that you seem to be imagining could more
reasonably be resistance to a specific change that offers no hope of an improvement.
Dale
Yellow and Reds
Australian eight ball changed from solids and stripes to reds and yellows in the 80's. It was pretty quickly adopted throughout the leagues and bars. Solids and stripes are rare to see these days. I have a set so I can play rotation games, do drills or even to play Kelly Pool.
I think it improves the experience for players and viewers.
Commentary can be awkward at times, but that happens a bit in 9 ball too, unless the viewers are very familiar with the colors. Perhaps large numbers on the balls could assist, though they may not be very recognizable without close ups.
A good telestrator would help a lot.
Australian eight ball changed from solids and stripes to reds and yellows in the 80's. It was pretty quickly adopted throughout the leagues and bars. Solids and stripes are rare to see these days. I have a set so I can play rotation games, do drills or even to play Kelly Pool.
I think it improves the experience for players and viewers.
Commentary can be awkward at times, but that happens a bit in 9 ball too, unless the viewers are very familiar with the colors. Perhaps large numbers on the balls could assist, though they may not be very recognizable without close ups.
A good telestrator would help a lot.
That is a good point. Most people who watched rotation pool on TV probably had no clue what the commentators were talking about when they said "well, he is going to have to do something with that 6-ball because the 8-ball is blocking his only pocket!" Often times commentary "with" the stripes and solids ends up being commentators having to explain "the 6 ball is the green solid on the upper rail" which is fairly lame in it's own right. I have never seen snooker have much of an issue with the reds and explaining the occasional issue they commentate on.
- I am originally from Britain, which is where the reds and yellows come from.
- Other than calling 'the 11 in the side', I see no reason why you can't just say, red off the yellow in the corner, or even red off the red in the corner, without your opponent being clueless as to what you are talking about.
- I work in a business that promotes pool, using video and I actually deal with this issue a lot more than you think I do.
- The 1% that you are assuming is the demographic that watches pool might actually grow to be larger if there was some aspect of the game which made it easier to understand and more enjoyable to watch. Hence, the purpose of my inquiry. And thanks for your opinion, by the way.
Great point regarding snooker reds! Have been enjoying the Champion of Champions live coverage the last few days.
Hope you trial it mate. It's so much easier to spot the patterns and problem balls in 8 ball with reds and yellows on screen.
Reds and yellows were used for the Accu-Stats "Make It Happen" 8-Ball event in August, 2012. Pagulayan finished on top of the field that also included Appleton, Archer, Deuel, Reyes, and Van Boening. I don't recall hearing about any objections from the pros on the use of the reds and yellows. Apparently the commentators did have a bit of an extra challenge.
Here's a thread about the use of the reds and yellows at that time: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=284554
Here's a thread about the use of the reds and yellows at that time: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=284554
This is from the 1925 BBCCo rule book:
I think it would be interesting – why don't make a poll out of this thread?
I would love the idea for 9-ball :killingme: runouts would be less difficult AND...
…pattern racking would become less important!!! :rotflmao1::rotflmao1:
k:
I would love the idea for 9-ball :killingme: runouts would be less difficult AND...
…pattern racking would become less important!!! :rotflmao1::rotflmao1:
k:
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They are Casino balls and this set is from the BCA Team Championships that were held in Colorado Springs in 1979-1980.
