Very dissapointed in lee brett. Should be ashamed

[scsuxci]

How much are you out?

Not much,but thats
really not the point.My buddy Dan put the thread together in good faith and got
rooked.Dan is the type of guy that would feel bad if anybody lost a penny due to
subscribing to that thread.
This will end up fading away into the sunset but still leaves a bad taste.

 

[CreeDo]

Fast Eddie loses to Fats & tells Burt he got drunk. It's a good 'excuse' for losing.

Eddie drank, Fats drank. Fats drank as much as Eddie. Fats knew how to drink. If one does know how to drink then one should not drink. It's part of what Burt called 'Character'. I hope Lee does not find his in a similar manner that Eddie found his.

We should all pray for those that need help. So many of us do in so many ways.

Regards & Best Wishes to All including Lee,
Rick

Think I disagree with this, at the risk of going into NPR territory.

I don't have my copy of the movie handy but to my memory, fats didn't drink as much as eddie in the film.
In fact I'm trying to remember if fats drank at all.

The whole "I know how to drink" thing always struck me as some sort of excuse
alcoholics make to justify why they think they can get away with more liquor than the next guy.
They can't, but they want you to believe they have special knowledge or body chemistry
that lets them slam 20 shots and still shoot good pool, drive straight, talk normally,
and make good decisions.

I believe if you imbibe as much alcohol as the next guy,
in the same time period, and your livers work about the same, then you're both gonna be
equally drunk at the end of that time period. There is no special "Character" or "trick"
that lets you cheat basic biology.

If fats was drinking as heavily as eddie, he was doing it off camera.
Maybe fats he was also eating an entire loaf of wonder bread off camera to somehow stay sober?!

 

[Diamond69]

Think I disagree with this, at the risk of going into NPR territory.

I don't have my copy of the movie handy but to my memory, fats didn't drink as much as eddie in the film.
In fact I'm trying to remember if fats drank at all.

The whole "I know how to drink" thing always struck me as some sort of excuse
alcoholics make to justify why they think they can get away with more liquor than the next guy.
They can't, but they want you to believe they have special knowledge or body chemistry
that lets them slam 20 shots and still shoot good pool, drive straight, talk normally,
and make good decisions.

I believe if you imbibe as much alcohol as the next guy,
in the same time period, and your livers work about the same, then you're both gonna be
equally drunk at the end of that time period. There is no special "Character" or "trick"
that lets you cheat basic biology.

If fats was drinking as heavily as eddie, he was doing it off camera.
Maybe fats he was also eating an entire loaf of wonder bread off camera to somehow stay sober?!

Agree and disagree.

Can two people drink the same amount and one appear less drunk, yes. But the chemistry would be the same assuming same body type/weight, etc.

So for the one that believes they out drink all their friends. If they have a breathalyzer in their face on their way home, it ain't gonna be a good ending.

 

[Banks]

The whole "I know how to drink" thing always struck me as some sort of excuse
alcoholics make to justify why they think they can get away with more liquor than the next guy.
They can't, but they want you to believe they have special knowledge or body chemistry
that lets them slam 20 shots and still shoot good pool, drive straight, talk normally,
and make good decisions.

I believe if you imbibe as much alcohol as the next guy,
in the same time period, and your livers work about the same, then you're both gonna be
equally drunk at the end of that time period. There is no special "Character" or "trick"
that lets you cheat basic biology.

If fats was drinking as heavily as eddie, he was doing it off camera.
Maybe fats he was also eating an entire loaf of wonder bread off camera to somehow stay sober?!

Having done a pretty comprehensive study on this during the past 8 years, I have to disagree. It takes a well-trained liver to handle some of the conditions found in "the wild". It is not advisable to recreate these conditions on your own.

 

[Juice]

Just for the record,this is Lee's car...

so, don't feel too bad.

Do not like making fun of situations but this did make me laugh. LOL

To be fair Lee was at the same bar as me (and a large number of other players who had to play the next day) and I even bought Lee a drink. We were all drunk. I'm expected to get drunk, I'm not a pro player only a pro drinker. But there were several pros drinking with us that happened to win the next morning.

Pro drinker playing pool son!

As soon as put_upor_shutup can get the video of me walking into the swimming pool fully clothed after my match with Ernesto off his phone, my backers will feel they EASILY doubled their investment.

He went from a go phone to a smart phone might be a little while before he figures out how. LOL

 

[Straightpool_99]

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[BRussell]

The whole "I know how to drink" thing always struck me as some sort of excuse
alcoholics make to justify why they think they can get away with more liquor than the next guy.
They can't, but they want you to believe they have special knowledge or body chemistry
that lets them slam 20 shots and still shoot good pool, drive straight, talk normally,
and make good decisions.

I believe if you imbibe as much alcohol as the next guy,
in the same time period, and your livers work about the same, then you're both gonna be
equally drunk at the end of that time period. There is no special "Character" or "trick"
that lets you cheat basic biology.

There is definitely a scientifically established concept of tolerance. It wouldn't surprise me if people exaggerate it along the lines that you're saying, though.

 

[Straightpool_99]

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[Black-Balled]

I know a guy who can't function without at least 3 drinks in him.

If I am staking hime and he shows up not drunk, I am angry.

which also responds to Creedo...if I have 10 drinks and play pool with your bankroll, you are going home broke. The guy I referred to? Well, he battled Cliff Joiner 10/7- 9/7 for 3 days (or as he measures it: 90beers).

 

[Ghosst]

All that being said, of course you have the right to be angry when the player you are sponsoring shows up drunk. Just don't go into a rant. You did not buy stock, you "invested" in a pool player. Thats as high risk as any investment gets (you might not even get gratitude apparently). Your expectations should be adjusted accordingly.

Dan is from the Toronto area. Everyone there is angry and high strung. It's why I moved away; life's too short.

 

[D_Lewis]

Whoa, that was pretty harsh:frown:. Suprised you got away with that one. Well, I guess I'd be pretty pxxxed off too if the player I was sponsoring spoiled his chances like that. Kudos to you for trying to do the right thing :smile:. Maybe some day Mr. Brett will get a second chance and do better. I sure hope so, seems like the Bonus Ball people scxxxed him over pretty bad.

Lee didn't get any different treatment from Bonus Ball as anyone else.

Dan is from the Toronto area. Everyone there is angry and high strung. It's why I moved away; life's too short.

I live about an hour from Toronto.

Feel free to take a survey about me if you'd like. I call em as I see em, I don't bullshit, I don't lie and I am not ever afraid to speak my mind while most will keep quiet.

I take care of my own responsibilities, I don't owe anyone money (that isn't named CIBC), I do things when I say I'm going to and many times I've went out of my way to help people out when I know for sure that I have zero chance of ever getting anything in return.

This must make me angry and high strung.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Think I disagree with this, at the risk of going into NPR territory.

I don't have my copy of the movie handy but to my memory, fats didn't drink as much as eddie in the film.
In fact I'm trying to remember if fats drank at all.

The whole "I know how to drink" thing always struck me as some sort of excuse
alcoholics make to justify why they think they can get away with more liquor than the next guy.
They can't, but they want you to believe they have special knowledge or body chemistry
that lets them slam 20 shots and still shoot good pool, drive straight, talk normally,
and make good decisions.

I believe if you imbibe as much alcohol as the next guy,
in the same time period, and your livers work about the same, then you're both gonna be
equally drunk at the end of that time period. There is no special "Character" or "trick"
that lets you cheat basic biology.

If fats was drinking as heavily as eddie, he was doing it off camera.
Maybe fats he was also eating an entire loaf of wonder bread off camera to somehow stay sober?!

CreeDo,

Fat's is the one that sent out for liquor at a particular location as a code to Burt. When he did, Eddie gave the guy some money & placed his order. Eddie was swigging from the bottle while Fat's was drinking from a glass on ice probably with water or... the bottle Fat's got may have been watered down or even rigged with tea. Who knows. Also Fat's went to the rest room, washed up, splashed water on his face, put his tie back right & put his coat back on & came out ready to play a new. Getting drunk is a great excuse to lose. Fat's did not do that. He basically let Eddie get drunk & then took all the money.

My point was not about how to 'cheat' biology. My point was more to the point of what to drink & how much over what time frame & with food, & when to quit, etc., especially when one will be competing the next morning. Playing under the influence & playing with a hang over are not the same thing. Although Max Magee did fairly well in the 1st. Super Bowl. Some guys even know how to play great ball with a hangover & some don't. Max said that the reason he played so well was because if 'the old man' would have found out that he had a hangover he would have killed him. Mr. Brett announced it to the the world.

There are different levels of character. The good, the bad, & the ugly, comes to mind.

Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick

 

[Bigtruck]

It's odd how people here react to the Cleary and Brett stake threads like their stock broker scxxxed them over. Clearys thread was clearly tongue in cheek, even I saw that and english is my second language. (It was hilarious by the way). The Lee Brett thread was more about helping a guy out. Some people obviously viewed these threads as an investment oppourtunity. One clearly has to be very careful when making a joke or tongue in cheek suggestion on these forums.

All that being said, of course you have the right to be angry when the player you are sponsoring shows up drunk. Just don't go into a rant. You did not buy stock, you "invested" in a pool player. Thats as high risk as any investment gets (you might not even get gratitude apparently). Your expectations should be adjusted accordingly.

Give any topic enough time and it will be re-written 9 different ways. People love to re-write history. Our poor grandkids won't have a clue what actually happened in this era.

1. No one showed up drunk to a match. Several people went out and had a good time the night before.
2. Lee's match wasn't until 3pm in the afternoon. He still used the drinking as an excuse for the poor play (even though Mike D opened with a six pack, not beer).
3. Good fodder for hater types with a little creative revisionism.

Carry on.

Ray

 

[Mr. Wilson]

Knock it off guys.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Sorry, anyone who buys a small piece of a pool player's entry and considers it an investment better Google the word "investment" and think about if they'd choose to use that word again in the same context.

In a national or international-level event, there's no guarantee that any player will be profitable, and that's including Efren in his prime. Too many Goddified players, too many variables. Even if you had a piece of Svb, I still wouldn't call it an investment. What you would call it is taking a chance, albeit a less risky chance than most.

Therefore, whoever put $ into Lee gambled plain and simple and it didn't pan out. I'd say the same thing if someone bought a piece of Bustamante or Orcullo. Now, if you were guaranteed a % of those top elite players for a string of events, you're approaching something that might smell like an investment. For everyone else on earth, it's a gamble... end of story.

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[D_Lewis]

Sorry, anyone who buys a small piece of a pool player's entry and considers it an investment better Google the word "investment" and think about if they'd choose to use that word again in the same context.

In a national or international-level event, there's no guarantee that any player will be profitable, and that's including Efren in his prime. Too many Goddified players, too many variables. Even if you had a piece of Svb, I still wouldn't call it an investment. What you would call it is taking a chance, albeit a less risky chance than most.

Therefore, whoever put $ into Lee gambled plain and simple and it didn't pan out. I'd say the same thing if someone bought a piece of Bustamante or Orcullo. Now, if you were guaranteed a % of those top elite players for a string of events, you're approaching something that might smell like an investment. For everyone else on earth, it's a gamble... end of story.

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People who regularly put players into action have a set percentage or agreement before hand (as with Lee) and the winnings are paid out as such.

If I had the opportunity to stake Shane or Dennis or Alex, I would jump at the opportunity. Maybe because YOU don't view it as an investment doesn't mean that others don't consider it an investment. It's has NOTHING to do with that he lost but more that he's saying he didn't give his all.

 

[D_Lewis]

Side note: the winner of the 10 ball was staked by 3 forum members. Congrats to them on their profitable investment.

 

[Black-Balled]

They are all drunk, Wilson!

Put 'em in the tank.

I will join them in about 6 hours.

 

[Bigtruck]

People who regularly put players into action have a set percentage or agreement before hand (as with Lee) and the winnings are paid out as such.

If I had the opportunity to stake Shane or Dennis or Alex, I would jump at the opportunity. Maybe because YOU don't view it as an investment doesn't mean that others don't consider it an investment. It's has NOTHING to do with that he lost but more that he's saying he didn't give his all.

Sounds like someone gunning for a reason to bash a player, which we all know is the case.

Show me one player that will lose and say "I played my best just didn't get there". You got a beef with Lee? Settle in private. This open display of nittiness is getting old.

:barf: whaaaaawhaaaaa, my horse said he didn't give it his all ....I want my money back or I'm gonna rip him a new one on the forum. :barf: (and they are gonna let me)

Ray

 

[D_Lewis]

Sounds like someone gunning for a reason to bash a player, which we all know is the case.

Show me one player that will lose and say "I played my best just didn't get there". You got a beef with Lee? Settle in private. This open display of nittiness is getting old.

Ray

Sometimes you call a spade a spade.

Nittiness? Lol. Yep, that's me. Good ole nitty Lewis. Lol.

It's no secret Lee and I have had issues in the past. I saw his initial post and put aside differences and posted again on his behalf. We got the money together, everyone paid Lee and then Lee well, acted like Lee. I got TONS of messages asking if someone hacked my account just by seeing me post anything on Lee's behalf, I told them it must be my good deed of the year. Guess its back to being a jerk for the next 5 months for me.