what about archer?
Who is the best shotmaker in America? Strickland perhaps?
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what about archer?
Archer is good, no doubt.
I think the best ball maker is Corey D. He has made me say, "wow" more times than any player. I don't think the others have the pure ability to pocket balls like him. He can slow roll tough shots or pound them and look like he still had more power in the bag.
There is a really hot blonde at Firehouse in Athens, GA that makes the best shots, hands down.
Voodoo Daddy
One Pocket 101
Corey or Johnny A
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Robb Saez...he never gets his due.
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Robb Saez...he never gets his due.
in america or from america? if it's in america, then it's orcullo when he's here. if its from america, then i say archer.
I used to watch earl practice and the one thing i noticed was that he would set up the 1st shot in a difficult spot then shoot it and if he made it he would continue but if not he would set it back up til he made it and got position on the next ball....
Maybe the reason ffor his excellent shot making ability...
the carom world has already provided a sucessfull blueprint for this type of competition
I would be very interested in this, you have a few dozen pros shoot a couple hundred shots each you and you would end up with some very interesting stats
I've been watching some videos of Earl lately and ignoring all the crap that goes on, that man has one of the prettiest strokes on this planet. He shows off alot by hitting balls at super sonic speed but during his matches he is scary. I wish my rhythm was as fluid as his.
I also think he sets up shots that would seem very difficult to most people, but he does it on purpose and makes the shot look like a piece of cake.
Disclaimer: This is just my opinion, I think I can relate to him because my style is similiar. He just happens to play 1000% better.
I also think he sets up shots that would seem very difficult to most people, but he does it on purpose and makes the shot look like a piece of cake.
Disclaimer: This is just my opinion, I think I can relate to him because my style is similiar. He just happens to play 1000% better.
Can she make it rain though?
On topic... Archer is the best. Especially on tough equipment.
Strickland was so good because of his great stroke and his control of the cueball.
But, IMO, he is NOT the best pure shotmaker by far - because he looks at the cueball last when he shoots. I have seen him miss an abnormally high number of long shots - it seems - and even short shorts (the Mosconi Cup). But, mybe my view of shotmaking is different from your yours. If Earl was the greatest shotmaker, then please answer me why he seems to choke so much at crucial moments? I am not anti Earl, these are just my observations.
This will always depend on the day...just like that football saying "Any given Sunday"
Because your talking about Earl of now and not Earl of 15-20 years ago. Earl's choking now and in the past decade has to do with his head, not his stroke. Everyone on this planet can and do miss if their head is not in the shot. If you think Earl was not a great shotmaker you have not watched enough of Earl playing in his prime.
Earl doing wing shots at warp speed and behind his back is enough for me!
Best Shotmaker in the US
I like Earl Strickland,Larry Nevel and SVB.Earl Strickland to pick the best in the US.It is hard to pick just one Archer is right there too.This is a real headscratcher.
I like Earl Strickland,Larry Nevel and SVB.Earl Strickland to pick the best in the US.It is hard to pick just one Archer is right there too.This is a real headscratcher.
This format is made for TV. It would be exciting for both players and non-players. The average Joe would love to watch this on ESPN.
Nick Varner was a scary dude back in his day...One of my favorite quotes of all time came from Varner after winning something like 11 out of 12 tournaments:
"You know you're playing good when you step to the table, and you have to kick two rails just to HIT the ball, and you think to yourself, 'I've got him now!"
Varner was among the best at escaping from impossible situations, imo.
"You know you're playing good when you step to the table, and you have to kick two rails just to HIT the ball, and you think to yourself, 'I've got him now!"
Varner was among the best at escaping from impossible situations, imo.
cue ball last or cue ball first...earl was one of the greatest shotmakers the game ever put out. as someone else already pointed out, earl nowadays isn't even close to how he used to be. if you've seen him miss, it was probably in his more recent years, and probably b/c he was in one of his infamous mentally cracked states. when he was younger, he could get in gear and blow you outta the water like no one else. i remember someone on here saying that no one, absolutely NO ONE, won as many matches/sets by blowout as earl. watch some older vids if you can find them, even TCOM which he eventually lost...but you'll see what i mean. when he was all there mentally, he could bury the best, even guys like efren.
-if you do...i will personally guarentee you will never doubt that he was one of the greatest shotmakers the game ever produced...
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From all the players I've watched in person, which was mostly throughout the 90's, I'd say all the top players were great shot makers.
The one thing Earl had was that he just made it look easier than anybody else. Here's an example.
I watched him warming up before a match at the Sands one time. He froze the cueball to the middle of the head rail and put the object ball on the spot. Then, he jacked up and cut the object ball in the corner and drew the cueball to the side rail. He made it at least 5 times in a row without hesitation. He made it look like a hanger. It was sick. :barf: There may have been guys that were as good of shot makers but I've never seen anyone make it look as easy.
The one thing Earl had was that he just made it look easier than anybody else. Here's an example.
I watched him warming up before a match at the Sands one time. He froze the cueball to the middle of the head rail and put the object ball on the spot. Then, he jacked up and cut the object ball in the corner and drew the cueball to the side rail. He made it at least 5 times in a row without hesitation. He made it look like a hanger. It was sick. :barf: There may have been guys that were as good of shot makers but I've never seen anyone make it look as easy.
My two cents: Lassiter and Sigel missed less balls than any other players in match competition. Luther rarely missed when gambling either.
But for purely having the ability to make the hardest shot under pressure, there have been several that stood out for one reason or another. Jimmy Reid, Greg Stevens and Louie Roberts are the first three I think of that made unGodly shots for the cash. They could make shots that would make their opponents shake in their boots. I saw lots of guys get weak playing against them for just that reason.
Keith was another unreal shotmaker, who could make a very tough shot look routine. He was the most effortless great shotmaker I ever saw. But SURPRISE, SURPRISE, I wouldn't make any of these guys number one. My number one best shotmaker of all time was none other than a Mr. Cecil "Buddy" Hall. Buddy made shot after shot in his lifetime that most players would not even attempt. It became so routine that he began to be overlooked. What makes Buddy stand out in my mind is that the unreal shots he made required not just pocketing the ball (the first three were the best at that), but getting difficult position as well. In tournament play, Earl was the second best at matching Buddy for making the complete shot. But Buddy could do it in tournaments or gambling.
NO ONE I ever saw play pool could do those two things better than Buddy. And I'm talking about the most difficult shots you could imagine where the whole match was on the line. My other two great match players (Sigel and Lassiter) would for the most part not attempt to shoot the shots that Buddy would execute to win matches and money. There is a reason that Buddy Hall was the most feared money player in America for nearly 30 years, and that's it. He could come with the biggest shots for the cheese, plain and simple.
That's my man, BUDDY HALL!
But for purely having the ability to make the hardest shot under pressure, there have been several that stood out for one reason or another. Jimmy Reid, Greg Stevens and Louie Roberts are the first three I think of that made unGodly shots for the cash. They could make shots that would make their opponents shake in their boots. I saw lots of guys get weak playing against them for just that reason.
Keith was another unreal shotmaker, who could make a very tough shot look routine. He was the most effortless great shotmaker I ever saw. But SURPRISE, SURPRISE, I wouldn't make any of these guys number one. My number one best shotmaker of all time was none other than a Mr. Cecil "Buddy" Hall. Buddy made shot after shot in his lifetime that most players would not even attempt. It became so routine that he began to be overlooked. What makes Buddy stand out in my mind is that the unreal shots he made required not just pocketing the ball (the first three were the best at that), but getting difficult position as well. In tournament play, Earl was the second best at matching Buddy for making the complete shot. But Buddy could do it in tournaments or gambling.
NO ONE I ever saw play pool could do those two things better than Buddy. And I'm talking about the most difficult shots you could imagine where the whole match was on the line. My other two great match players (Sigel and Lassiter) would for the most part not attempt to shoot the shots that Buddy would execute to win matches and money. There is a reason that Buddy Hall was the most feared money player in America for nearly 30 years, and that's it. He could come with the biggest shots for the cheese, plain and simple.
That's my man, BUDDY HALL!
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