Not all pool players are degenerates. Neither of these young ladies has ever done anything to even hint that they would do such a thing. I know Melinda and think I know enough about Borana to say that neither would ever consider doing such a thing - ever. Labeling someone as being one that dumps can be extremely detrimental to a persons reputation so unless you have hard evidence of someone doing such a thing, you don't even joke about it, let alone say something so flippant in a serious manner as you did.
Borana Andoni vs "omgwtf"
- Thread starter Roy Steffensen
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Not all pool players are degenerates. Neither of these young ladies has ever done anything to even hint that they would do such a thing. I know Melinda and think I know enough about Borana to say that neither would ever consider doing such a thing - ever. Labeling someone as being one that dumps can be extremely detrimental to a persons reputation so unless you have hard evidence of someone doing such a thing, you don't even joke about it, let alone say something so flippant in a serious manner as you did.
I'm not arguing your point, just seeing things from a different perspective.
The $2K doesn't make you better, but factor in the experience. She'll experience the feeling & grind of not losing her own money. She'll experience the pressure of every shot, no matter how seemingly insignificant. If she's never played under pressure like this before, with this much to lose, then in my opinion she's certainly stepping up to the next level. She may not play on another level of skill, but she'll certainly be playing on a higher level of pressure.
Betting $2G's on a match when you aren't a world class player, don't have a 6 figure income, and have never bet nearly that much in your life, can be very scary & intimidating. Doing it for the first time certainly is stepping up a level. In all the matches & games & money I have lost, 90% were due to weak nerves & pressure, not my skill level. I would imagine that's the case with most players.
When I was single & had a certain predictable, often disposable income, i'd bet $500-$1000 if I thought I had a good chance. I lost a lot of money, I won a lot of money, prolly even in the end. I played better then than I ever did. Once responsibilities came, like caring for a wife & children, making that mortgage payment every month, etc, my betting seized. Now if I play for anything over $100 I get the jitters & my game shows it. I still have the playing skills. I know more about the game than ever before. I have tons of experience to guide me. But I crumble in the big games because i'm not at that level anymore. My nerves are not conditioned for it anymore. I'd have to step up & start playing that level again if I ever wanted to be competitive like that again. That's what i'm saying when I say she'd be stepping up to the next level. It has nothing to do with her skill. It's all about experience & nerve conditioning.
I understand what you're saying but you're looking at the situation from a different perspective than Ms. Andoni. You're looking at it from a gamblers stand point and she is looking at it from a tournament players stand point. They're entirely different mind sets.
The tournament aspect is very important to Ms. Andoni and probably even more so since she & her team mates are last years champions. I've no doubt the plans for this yr were decided upon last yr. This match up just came about and I think it is unfair to give Borana a hard time for not ditching the tournament for a gambling match.
As much as I would like to see this match, I'm not going to knock her for staying true to her team. As a young lady looking to make a name for herself in the pool world and aspiring to one day become pro, I'm sure she was looking forward to the singles tournament at the BCA but has offered to cancel those plans. The way I understand the situation is if she were genuinely trying to back out, she wouldn't offer to cancel those plans to work something out. I could be wrong and we all interpret things differently but this is how I'm interpreting her situation.
Not looking to argue with anyone but shouldn't she have thought of this before agreeing to match up?
I agree that getting use to playing with $1500 of your own money instead of $100 will help most players mental game and get them use to pressure. What I don't agree on is for Borana to ditch her teammates to gamble. She already stated she wouldn't ditch them. Even if they have a sub that is as good as her it's just not the right thing to do. You can gamble anytime, this tournament is once a year. Johnnyt
I agree and said as much yesterday.
You read my mind and verbalized it better than I did. :wink:
I'm not giving anybody a tough time, and sincerely apologize if I have.
I can see your point of view and it does make sense. I want to see the match. I think it's exciting to see ladies match up for the game of it, without all the catfight frenzy that usually fuels it. I guess i'm just disappointed to see it go wishy washy after we all thought it was a lock game.
Point taken. But this still leaves everybody assuming that the match will even interfere with any of her schedule play. We all know about assumptions.
He makes a lot of comments that make me shake my head in disbelief.
Again I'll say that they should work the details out via PM or IM and post the details of the match here when they are done. They don't need any help from us. Johnnyt
Singles starts on the 15th although you offered the 16-18 in a post separate from the one above. I would like to play on the 15th since that is the first day of singles for both of us and I'd like to have the off-chance, however miniscule, that I can still make it to a match after we play and being this early in the tournament I think we would have a better chance of being able to play both our match and tournament matches.
Alternatively, if you would like to play barbox 8-ball instead to stay in stroke for your three events, I'm down for that. We would have no problems locating an open table for our match or finding an agreeable time since we would be able to see each others' schedules.
There's a wise observation by some ancient long-forgotten nameless philosopher that goes: "He who smelt it, dealt it."
Since the first thing that occurs to you is that we are going to dump and chop up the rail, I am going to surmise that you, personally, have a lot of experience in that exact scenario.
Try not to project your accomplishments, however noble they may be, upon others.
Mr. Macias -- you still doing the carwash thing?
OMG "Happy Camper" WTF
Ummm?????
The ENTIRE pool room did NOT root against her. I, for one, would like to clarify that.
Peace,
Amanda
The ENTIRE pool room did NOT root against her. I, for one, would like to clarify that.
Peace,
Amanda
Amanda is correct. I never rooted against her either and I was at that tournament. To top it off, several people asked her to autograph their copy of IP that weekend.
I will admit one of the players she played I thought was very rude to her, though.
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Uh Oh, you guys are in trouble now, The Polish Viking has entered the thread. Tread lightly fellas, and be scared, be very very scared!!
I ain't scurred!! Then again, I'm Polish, so it could be argued I'm too stupid to be scared.:grin:
Well she's not, therefore she doesnt have a problem dropping some bombs on ya!!! You didn't think she got that nickname because she's Polish did ya?!! I think Amanda should just say she wants the winner of this match!!! Stir it up girl, lol.
Yeah, Lampert doesn't come across as Polish to me. :tongue: