Open Offer to Danny Harriman and John Schmidt from TAR

ill play

the original offer is great.
same exact format as last time.
i will play. dannys been insulting me as usual thru pms and frankly i would luv nothing more then too shoot him full of holes.
ill accept tars offer but my only request is loser has to donate the 1000 dollars to the bca junior program.
ill play either way but if danny agrees to donate the 1000 that would b even better.

danny just so there is no misunderstanding im ready,ill play,lets rock,rackem,tails,u got me,
lets rumble, lets get it on, c u there, practice up, dont b scared , dont b late, etc etc etc etc etc etc
 
I am done with this whole saga and wish both guys nothing but the best. Anytime talk of this match flairs up again I can link to this thread as proof we tried.

There you have it folks. This thread did what I wanted and answered this question once and for all. On to the next one.

Sorry to hear that Justin. Just brush it off and keep on rolling. I hope you get something else going. Whatever it is I am in.
 
I received this PM from Danny Harriman:

"The fact remains that u found John a $2,000 free money appearence fee a few yrs back and John turned it down. Then had the adacity to make it known to the public on this forum was a mistake from your end I think sir. It was unprofessional from your end and in my view was nothing but an insult to me as there was never any offer to me. My best offer is $3,500.00 + all expenses paid, I have to prepare for this and that involves me relocating to do so. Just to let u know had u not made that post a couple of yrs ago I would have played for less. I am not as proud as u might think - but I hope your able to raise the $3500.00 for me and what ever millionaire u have found for John's appearence fee can stay between u and John."

A little background:

Couple years ago when Danny and John flared up here I called John and tried to entice him to play by offering $2000 appearance fee. He refused saying it wasnt worth playing Danny at any price. So I just never even called Danny with an offer because whats the point? I'm guessing thats what he referred to here.

As for my answer to Danny Harriman regarding paying him $3500 + Expenses I simply reply: No.

I am done with this whole saga and wish both guys nothing but the best. Anytime talk of this match flairs up again I can link to this thread as proof we tried.

There you have it folks. This thread did what I wanted and answered this question once and for all. On to the next one.
Shocker!!!
 
Hey Kiddo, Not sure where this guy gets off asking for more $$. Its really stupid. "Oh I have to relocate... I need more $$$... what a bunch of BS. Whats he gonna do if the match don't go off??? Sit at home?? Danny get off your ass on your own dime and get in there if you think you got it. Do you know how many people would be happy to get in stroke for a month for a chance to make 2 month salary and it don 't cost you a penny to do it. If you are serious you really are a joke. Stay at home and do nothing then and get nothing.
sORRY, i AM A LITTLE HARSH THERE, Not sure what you think you have to lose or why you have to relaocate unless its just that you want to relaocate and this is a way for you to do it without costing you anything. JMO> Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
Justin,

I hope you continue to make game with John, I will buy every match in which he is involved.

I'm thinkin' Harriman just screwed his last TAR invite.

Never ceases to amaze me the length some "professionals" will go to slowly, but surely, alienate their rapidly shrinking income opportunities...........
 
I am down to sweeten the pot for the loser of the match a bit, I will start off by adding a $100 if we can get 9 more guys to do this. Then that would be $1000+ Tars $1000 and we have $2000 to the loser and $5,000 for the winner plus all expenses paid. I really would like to see Danny mix it up with John and settle this. I happen to be a fan of both players, I watched Danny practice at the US Open 1 Pocket last year and was watching him bank, he is great.
 
I received this PM from Danny Harriman:

"The fact remains that u found John a $2,000 free money appearence fee a few yrs back and John turned it down. Then had the adacity to make it known to the public on this forum was a mistake from your end I think sir. It was unprofessional from your end and in my view was nothing but an insult to me as there was never any offer to me. My best offer is $3,500.00 + all expenses paid, I have to prepare for this and that involves me relocating to do so. Just to let u know had u not made that post a couple of yrs ago I would have played for less. I am not as proud as u might think - but I hope your able to raise the $3500.00 for me and what ever millionaire u have found for John's appearence fee can stay between u and John."

Danny,

You're getting a free roll at $5,000.

If you think you have any chance at winning, then you ought to take it.

If you can't win you get paid $1,000 for your time. You have nothing to lose.

TAR has already anteed up - they're staking you - John is ready to roll - don't be silly.
 
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I'm Number 2

I'm Number 2. $100.00 committed. It's wrong but screw right and wrong. I want my fix.

Nick
 
After a guy straight up insults you like that, why would you even try to make him money.

I wouldn't car e is azb member put up 3k for the loser, I wouldn't give Danny the chance at a dime.
 
My first thought when reading the op was Danny would love the format. I remember watching him get smoked in the ten ball and then he posted how 10 ball was not his strength.

I'm very confident Justin will make sure the rubber match features all three disciplines like the first two.

Justin had nothing to do with them playing all 3 disciplines. The only reason that they did the first two times was because they split the first two disciplines or it would have stopped at 2-0 both times.
 
Come to VIctorville, Califronia

My proposal, the match is played in my pool room in California, as we had to get on a plane and fly to KC to play Danny since he was the all around champ at the time. No problem we did. Now John is the current champ and I am the stakehorse who happens to own a pool room, so you can come to us.

This is the rubber match so I would like to see a longer race:
Straight pool to 500
One pocket to 11
10 ball to 35.

I would like Justin and TAR to do the livestream here at my pool hall with the same incentives that he's already offered to the players. In addition I would lay $15,000.00 to $13,000.00 on John. You, Danny can keep the $2000.00 for appearance fee. I feel that I have the better horse so what's laying a little juice.

So, Danny get a stakehorse, come to California and lets play some All Around!

If Justin and Danny agree to this, give me a call. The end of April works for me.

Gary Henry
Owner, Gary's Victor Billiards

909-856-1762
 
Come to VIctorville, Califronia

My proposal, the match is played in my pool room in California, as we had to get on a plane and fly to KC to play Danny since he was the all around champ at the time. No problem we did. Now John is the current champ and I am the stakehorse who happens to own a pool room, so you can come to us.

This is the rubber match so I would like to see a longer race:
Straight pool to 500
One pocket to 11
10 ball to 35.

I would like Justin and TAR to do the livestream here at my pool hall with the same incentives that he's already offered to the players. In addition I would lay $15,000.00 to $13,000.00 on John. You, Danny can keep the $2000.00 for appearance fee. I feel that I have the better horse so what's laying a little juice.

So, Danny get a stakehorse, come to California and lets play some All Around!

If Justin and Danny agree to this, give me a call. The end of April works for me.

Gary Henry
Owner, Gary's Victor Billiards

909-856-1762
 
Hey Kiddo, Not sure where this guy gets off asking for more $$. Its really stupid. "Oh I have to relocate... I need more $$$... what a bunch of BS. Whats he gonna do if the match don't go off??? Sit at home?? Danny get off your ass on your own dime and get in there if you think you got it. Do you know how many people would be happy to get in stroke for a month for a chance to make 2 month salary and it don 't cost you a penny to do it. If you are serious you really are a joke. Stay at home and do nothing then and get nothing.
sORRY, i AM A LITTLE HARSH THERE, Not sure what you think you have to lose or why you have to relaocate unless its just that you want to relaocate and this is a way for you to do it without costing you anything. JMO> Please correct me if I am wrong.

Don't be sorry (I may get even harsher)! Here pool players are struggling and always needing more money, and here is a "pool player" that wont go play pool for free money, along with some free travel and getting to hang in another part of the country. Not only that, it is matches like this that would be good for the game, and in the long run, could propel the game more in the direction we need. I have always said Danny is super unstable (I interacted with him only a tad), and John is a very reasonable, well-spoken guy. I think stuff like this clears up who has been at fault in the past, at least in my mind. Here is John ready to play, even give some funds very altruistically. Danny just wants to sit home and whine and be a "pool player." Sorry danny, you will always be a "pool player" to me.
 
My proposal, the match is played in my pool room in California, as we had to get on a plane and fly to KC to play Danny since he was the all around champ at the time. No problem we did. Now John is the current champ and I am the stakehorse who happens to own a pool room, so you can come to us.

This is the rubber match so I would like to see a longer race:
Straight pool to 500
One pocket to 11
10 ball to 35.

I would like Justin and TAR to do the livestream here at my pool hall with the same incentives that he's already offered to the players. In addition I would lay $15,000.00 to $13,000.00 on John. You, Danny can keep the $2000.00 for appearance fee. I feel that I have the better horse so what's laying a little juice.

So, Danny get a stakehorse, come to California and lets play some All Around!

If Justin and Danny agree to this, give me a call. The end of April works for me.

Gary Henry
Owner, Gary's Victor Billiards

909-856-1762

Thanks for the offer Gary but my offer was for them to play in our studio. I cant outrun the expenses of moving everything, hotel for crew, truck rental and all the associated expenses and hassle of breaking down our studio and moving the gear for one weekend.

My offer is now officially off the table. Danny seems to think I insulted or slighted him in some way and frankly I dont have the patience to deal with ego's and hand hold people in a simple business deal. I did my best to create an opportunity for the players to make money and a chance for TAR to make money. Evidently in this case that isnt enough.

Gary I hope Danny does get a backer and come take your offer as you went to his backers place and it would be fair for his side to reciprocate. I doubt you have to worry about sweating that anytime soon though.
 
thanks

thanks gary and vicki henry my good friends over 15 years. i appreciate the fact u r trying to stake me whether it happens or not.u guys own a very nice poolroom with the best playing equipment on earth.
justin thanks to u also bud,ive always liked u. u r great for pool and hopefully danny comes to his senses and he ,i and u can make some money. at any rate u da man. care
 
Getting complicated

I think this needs to kinda stay on point in order for this match to go forward.

Gary's offer is appreciated BUT it puts a burden on TAR - there is a reason we put in the studio. To have a permanent location for matches , in a controlled venue. Pool rooms cannot off that.

Also, one of the main reasons for TAR offering the financial format is that backers are getting hard to find. The players get almost the same end result - without the need for backers - with Justin's offer.

I see some merit for Lenny's idea, and IF 10 people want to ofer $1,000 to Danny, that is their option.

But, I know Justin, and I am really hoping Danny rethinks his position on this. His number just does not work - the risk is too high for TAR. And if Danny makes it too tough to deal with him, then his future offers will probably become fewer and fewer.

Danny is a tremendous talent, and the American fans would like to see this rubber match played.

There is a point where the deal is not worth the hassle. I am sure Danny thinks that TAR makes gazillions of dollars on these PPV events. I can guarantee you that we don't.

Hopefully he will reconsider. Showing your ability to compromise to get things to happen usually means you will have the future opportunity to make more things happen. Playing hard to get only means that the people making the offers will probably go somewhere else.

Hope Danny thinks about it.

Mark Griffin
 
I received this PM from Danny Harriman:

"The fact remains that u found John a $2,000 free money appearence fee a few yrs back and John turned it down. Then had the adacity to make it known to the public on this forum was a mistake from your end I think sir. It was unprofessional from your end and in my view was nothing but an insult to me as there was never any offer to me. My best offer is $3,500.00 + all expenses paid, I have to prepare for this and that involves me relocating to do so. Just to let u know had u not made that post a couple of yrs ago I would have played for less. I am not as proud as u might think - but I hope your able to raise the $3500.00 for me and what ever millionaire u have found for John's appearence fee can stay between u and John."

A little background:

Couple years ago when Danny and John flared up here I called John and tried to entice him to play by offering $2000 appearance fee. He refused saying it wasnt worth playing Danny at any price. So I just never even called Danny with an offer because whats the point? I'm guessing thats what he referred to here.

As for my answer to Danny Harriman regarding paying him $3500 + Expenses I simply reply: No.

I am done with this whole saga and wish both guys nothing but the best. Anytime talk of this match flairs up again I can link to this thread as proof we tried.

There you have it folks. This thread did what I wanted and answered this question once and for all. On to the next one.


If that ain't the definition of "strifle". i don't know what is.
 
Hey Jcin, not trying to curb the match between these guys but maybe if Danny doesnt play, maybe Corey Deuel would be an acceptable fill-in.
 
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