Main Forum = CJ Wiley Forum now?

Now that may just be the quote of the day, THNX CJ!

Wow!
Besides Buddy Hall, beating Efren Reyes, I bet you all did not know who else beat him!!! Mr. CJ Wiley. Playing One Pocket! he used TOI to defeat him with. I am talking about when Efren was Hot! Right after he first came to the USA to play pool. it was 1990 to be exact. I realize he came over in the mid 80's the first time. Thah is when Buddy Hall beat him. Playing 10 ball, for $10K.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Efren and I played for 20k in Seattle (all Filipino Pool Room, Nardo's)

Wow!
Besides Buddy Hall, beating Efren Reyes, I bet you all did not know who else beat him!!! Mr. CJ Wiley. Playing One Pocket! he used TOI to defeat him with. I am talking about when Efren was Hot! Right after he first came to the USA to play pool. it was 1990 to be exact. I realize he came over in the mid 80's the first time. Thah is when Buddy Hall beat him. Playing 10 ball, for $10K.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

I think the internet was mistaken...imagine that. ;)

Efren and I played in Seattle (all Filipino Pool Room, Nardo's) the year was 1997 and the game was 9 Ball. I won two out of three sets racing to 22....I got 3 on the wire. After 14 hours of play I was behind by one game, but won the money.
 
Our pool game, minds, and bodies are never the same. Life is always changing, and once we accept this reality, and are willing to understand how to make the adjustments we can turn this into an advantage.

I see players start out really well in a match, however, they are not hitting the center of the pocket on their shots. They may be over cutting or under cutting slightly, and it's usually predictable after a few games. If they don't know how to adjust for those "near misses" they soon turn into total misses.

This will tend to shake someone up, it's like "I was playing so well, then suddenly I couldn't make a ball," however the truth of the matter is it wasn't "suddenly" they had the "tell tail signs" earlier and didn't pay attention or wasn't watching the object ball go into the pocket.

When I contact the cue ball, I immediately watch the object ball go into the pocket to see what part of the pocket it's contacting. The cue ball is the primary target, so you have to aim carefully at the cue ball. The pocket reflects how you hit the cue ball so you must get the feedback from the pocket or you're "playing in the dark," and sooner or later it will have an impact......and never a good one.

I make "micro adjustments" with my cue ball "Tip Target" until it aligns perfectly with my "Pocket Target". This calibration is something that must consistently be done to keep from having "ups and downs" in my performance AND my confidence. 'The Game is the Teacher'

This is pure gold. I hadn't thought of this, but looking at my own game/experience, this happens all the time. I feel like I'm in stroke, then suddenly the wheels come off and I can't figure out why. If I'm honest with myself, I'm not drilling the pockets when I think I'm in stroke, even if I'm running racks...then I get tired and lazy and I'm dogging shots and can't figure out why. The bottom line is I wasn't "in stroke", just almost there. Until I realize (real eyes) I'm not dialed in, when I drift off I won't know how to correct. You have to constantly dial it in to get that ball to drill in, not just drift in one side or the other (unless you need it to). Best advice/insight I've seen in months here!:grin-square:
 
I think the internet was mistaken...imagine that. ;)

Efren and I played in Seattle (all Filipino Pool Room, Nardo's) the year was 1997 and the game was 9 Ball. I won two out of three sets racing to 22....I got 3 on the wire. After 14 hours of play I was behind by one game, but won the money.

I am going to have to not believe what I see on the internet unless I check it out first from now on. Thanks CJ.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
lol, yeah, that reference might have been a tad obscure. I was thinking of the opening speech from "Patton" where he's standing in front of the giant flag and at the end he says, "We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose."

We run a lot of that through the goose here :-)

Lou Figueroa

Who said this can't be an educational forum! :)

Thanks, Lou! :grin:
 
I am going to have to not believe what I see on the internet unless I check it out first from now on. Thanks CJ.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

You havn't seen that insurance commercial ? You can't put nothing on the internet that aint true !!! Bonjour lol
 
IMO there are too many sub-forums as it is. CJ's stuff could go into the aiming forum, but all in all it doesn't bother me. I just don't read them if I'm not interested.

There are FAR TOO MANY sub-forums as it is.

Your take is the most mature perspective of any that I have read and one that I agree with.

I scan the Main Forum to see if there is anything that I am interested in reading. It's easy enough to by-pass threads that are not of interest to me and "should" be for anyone else as well.

I believe the push toward sub-forums is generally nothing more than an attempt to usurp the freedom of posting in the Main Forum by a few, persistent posters that don't like to see certain subjects in the Main Forum for jealousy reasons or other reasons that I am unable to guess.

Creating sub-forums ad nauseum dilutes the value of the overall website in my opinion.

Most new posters seldom ever dig deep enough into the sub-forums to find anything of personal interest to them.

Most experienced posters stick to the Main Forum for a few minutes each day.

I believe that there are certain forums that have extreme value as sub-forums but the constant addition of sub-forums just because someone doesn't like someone else's threads is not a good idea, imo.
 
How about instead of creating more sub-forums they change the "Aiming" forum to a "System Talk" forum? This would be a good meeting place for everybody to talk about their favorite system - be it aiming or otherwise.
 
There are FAR TOO MANY sub-forums as it is.

Your take is the most mature perspective of any that I have read and one that I agree with.

I scan the Main Forum to see if there is anything that I am interested in reading. It's easy enough to by-pass threads that are not of interest to me and "should" be for anyone else as well.

I believe the push toward sub-forums is generally nothing more than an attempt to usurp the freedom of posting in the Main Forum by a few, persistent posters that don't like to see certain subjects in the Main Forum for jealousy reasons or other reasons that I am unable to guess.

Creating sub-forums ad nauseum dilutes the value of the overall website in my opinion.

Most new posters seldom ever dig deep enough into the sub-forums to find anything of personal interest to them.

Most experienced posters stick to the Main Forum for a few minutes each day.

I believe that there are certain forums that have extreme value as sub-forums but the constant addition of sub-forums just because someone doesn't like someone else's threads is not a good idea, imo.

And if you notice, these same people always have a problem with pro players.
 
How about instead of creating more sub-forums they change the "Aiming" forum to a "System Talk" forum? This would be a good meeting place for everybody to talk about their favorite system - be it aiming or otherwise.

Maybe we need a "General Forum" as well as a Main Forum. System Talk forum doesn't sound bad but I think I am going to try and start a thread to discuss why we need sub-forums.

Is it all that difficult to ignore certain threads that don't interest one?

I realize that some people like 14.1 people enjoy having a forum to discuss their passion and I understand that. Aiming, systems, pre-shot routine, and the list goes on and on are simply general parts of pool and don't require or have a need to be in separte sub-forums, but each to his or her own. :shrug:
 
How about a sidespin forum?, a center ball forum? A Duckie forum where every post he makes is moved there.

A what's wrong with pool forum? That topic comes up every couple weeks.

And put that together with the How to Fix Pool forum.

How about a Knocker's and Nits forum? If you want to knock or be a nit then your posts go there where you can commiserate with all the other knockers and nits. Be like the old barbershops where the old men would sit around and complain about the world all day.

And we definitely need a Snooker Blows Pool Away Forum since that's a favorite thing for some people to post. We never get tired on the predominately pool forum of being reminded of how great snooker is, how much money snooker players make, how great of cueists they are, how smart and handsome they are, and how they were running centuries before they got to kindergarten because just by virtue of being snooker players they are infinitely more talented than pool players.

Which leads to the next subforum, the Talent vs Training Subforum. That subject always generates a lot of debate and certainly should be relegated to a subforum.

I personally would like to see a subforum dedicated to the 2 ball. I like the two ball because it's blue and I like blue so we should have a forum for that. In fact let's just have 15 new forums for all the balls. Ooops 16 because of course we can't forget the cue ball.

:-)
 
You are funny JB. :)

Call me crazy but I do think there has to be well divided sub-forums. Otherwise, this place turns into what RSB was back when it went off the rails. My biggest complaint about AZ is a lot of interesting stuff quickly gets lost in the shuffle. I suppose you could say that if something is good it should manage to stay on the first page, or maybe I just have weird tastes. I don't know.

Subscribing to threads doesn't really work all that well, since once a thread is relegated to the 2nd or 3rd page, chances are nobody is going to post in it anymore.

I actually think the "Ask The Instructor" and the "Aiming" forums are more my flavor. At least as far as how ideas are expressed and how the back and forth communication goes.

I was skeptical about the "Aiming" Forum at first, but I think it has worked out pretty well. I agree that you don't want to make a new sub-forum for every little thing, but broadening the scope of the "Aiming" forum to include all System stuff I think would be a good idea. Then I could come up with something else to complain about.
 
There are FAR TOO MANY sub-forums as it is.

Your take is the most mature perspective of any that I have read and one that I agree with.

I scan the Main Forum to see if there is anything that I am interested in reading. It's easy enough to by-pass threads that are not of interest to me and "should" be for anyone else as well.

I believe the push toward sub-forums is generally nothing more than an attempt to usurp the freedom of posting in the Main Forum by a few, persistent posters that don't like to see certain subjects in the Main Forum for jealousy reasons or other reasons that I am unable to guess.

Creating sub-forums ad nauseum dilutes the value of the overall website in my opinion.

Most new posters seldom ever dig deep enough into the sub-forums to find anything of personal interest to them.

Most experienced posters stick to the Main Forum for a few minutes each day.

I believe that there are certain forums that have extreme value as sub-forums but the constant addition of sub-forums just because someone doesn't like someone else's threads is not a good idea, imo.


Plus one...
(Believes we have too many folks addicted to hearing their own voice at the expense of monitoring what it's saying.)
 
I appreciate that CJ posts here and shares his knowledge and stories. He is most definitely an asset to the forum.
 
I appreciate that CJ posts here and shares his knowledge and stories. He is most definitely an asset to the forum.

Tap, tap, tap.

I can live with "the thread is the teacher" in order to get the good stuff. CJ has brought a lot of life into the forum since he arrived, and a lot of great information has been exchanged and debated.

Thanks for hanging out with us, CJ.
 
There are FAR TOO MANY sub-forums as it is. [...]Creating sub-forums ad nauseum dilutes the value of the overall website in my opinion

Agree. I'm sad for example that there's not much 14.1 talk in here even if it's less popular these days. I really don't want to fish around a separate 14.1 forum, it's not like all the 14.1 posts would drown us in information and take up half the first page of the main forum.

I believe the push toward sub-forums is generally nothing more than an attempt to usurp the freedom of posting in the Main Forum by a few, persistent posters that don't like to see certain subjects in the Main Forum for jealousy reasons or other reasons that I am unable to guess.

Be reasonable. You think someone wakes up in the morning and says "boy, I sure hope I can usurp someone's freedoms today.
I envy them so much that I wish I could just shut them up forever!"

It has nothing to do with muzzling anyone. People just get sick of the endless squabbling.
Aiming systems are such a touchy topic that they lead to massive threads,
then spinoff threads, then spinoffs of the spinoffs, and eventually bans.

You can argue "just don't read them then", but would you like to live in a house where
your friends or family are arguing nonstop, and you have to close the door and put on
some headphones to drown it out? And someone always gets kicked out afterwards?

Additionally, aiming systems seem to go hand in hand with people trying to sell you
something. Can I live with or ignore unsolicited ads? Yes. Do I want to? Not really.

The only thing worse than mommy and daddy shouting at each other is hearing it mixed with Billy Mays shouting
"AND I'll THROW IN ANOTHER CTE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO THE FIRST TWENTY CALLERS!!!"
 
How about a sidespin forum?, a center ball forum? A Duckie forum where every post he makes is moved there.

A what's wrong with pool forum? That topic comes up every couple weeks.

And put that together with the How to Fix Pool forum.

How about a Knocker's and Nits forum? If you want to knock or be a nit then your posts go there where you can commiserate with all the other knockers and nits. Be like the old barbershops where the old men would sit around and complain about the world all day.

And we definitely need a TOI Blows everyone Away Forum since that's a favorite thing for some people to post. We never get tired on the predominately pool forum of being reminded of how great TOI is, how much money TOI players make, how great of cueists they are, how smart and handsome they are, and how they were running Racks before they got to kindergarten because just by virtue of being TOI players they are infinitely more talented than non TOI pool players.

Which leads to the next subforum, the Talent vs Training Subforum. That subject always generates a lot of debate and certainly should be relegated to a subforum.

I personally would like to see a subforum dedicated to the 2 ball. I like the two ball because it's blue and I like blue so we should have a forum for that. In fact let's just have 15 new forums for all the balls. Ooops 16 because of course we can't forget the cue ball.

:-)

Fixed it for ya but it sounds just as silly.
You got a real hate on for snooker eh?
 
I'm not bashing TOI or anything, but the way CJ posts...


...it just looks like spam to me, its basically advertisment in his every post of every thread he's in, "the game is the teacher.. the game is the teacher, i use TOI..blah blah blah"

the main forum IS now his own personal free advertisment space..sorry but it gets annoying

Maybe you are just oblivious to what else is going on in the forum. Scott Lee has advertized for years and years on all of his posts. So does JB Cases, and his s&^$ takes up real estate like no one else!!!!!! I get so sick of having to scroll through his pool case pics all the friggin' time. There are probably 20 posters who advertize.

If you don't reading CJ's posts then just put him on ignore. We all will be better off without the nits buzzing around.

CJ is informative, funny, and has a sharp wit which I greatly appreciate.
 
What JB just wrote is......how do you say...hmmm.....oh, yeah...priceless

"Ok, so should we start going through the forum to subdivide the threads?

Any thread related to TAR should go where?

How to play this shot threads?

Any thread about equipment should be where?

Let's see a snapshot of the threads now.

Pool and Religion - hmm, possibly NPR but perhaps a new subforum called BPR should be created for this Barely Pool Related

Lookin for Serious Sponsor - perhaps Wanted/For Sale section?

Favorite Sized Table to Play On? - Equipment subform?

St. Patrick's Day Pool Story - Pool Stories subforum?

Brunswick Centennial Ready For action - Equipment subform, possibly marketing subforum, maybe WFS, Gallery? Not sure.

Product Ideas - clearly marketing subforum

New 8 Ball Variants: Deathmatch and Last Stand: New Games Forum absolutely.

And Now, the weekly Ebay BS Cue Story - marketing subforum.

My "new" Anniversary is here - Pool Table Gallery subforum

Funny pic thread: NPR all the way. But it has 11 MILLION views.

Pool Movies - Media subforum

Does SVB speak Filipino? - Ask the Pros subforum? Talk about pros subforum?

What are RAM shots? - THIS is the content that is suitable for the main forum when professionals are not welcome there.

Should I make a pool guide for bar players? - SEE ABOVE

One-Word Thread- huh? Must be a subforum for that.

Bonus Ball - new games subforum

Best Camera for Recording Pool - Streaming Forum

What's the weakest part of your game - "I can't play" subforum.

BTG Table Diagraming Tool - put this useless piece of crap in the Aiming Forum only. ;-)

Day Jobs of the Pros - Talk about Pros subforum.

New Poolhall in Griifith Inidana - obviously marketing subforum.

Strong Arm John - Talk about Pros/Road Players sub forum."



John B. JB CASES

Priceless humor!!!!!

We also need a Fast Larry section and bring him back. Between CJ's private forum and Fast Larry's forum, the Main forum would never get any hits :grin-square:
 
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