Is Max Eberle as big as a goof as I now think?

Bob Jewett said:
Well, no, it isn't A typical Aramith pool ball is both smooth and round within 0.001 inches. That's one part in 2250. The Earth is ellipsoidal by about one part in 300, and has mountains and troughs that together range up and down by about 8 miles or one part in 1000. I think Dr. Dave had an article on this.

Here's what Wikipedia had to say about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth

I'm waiting for someone to tell me that pool balls are really flat. I used to have nightmares like that -- hockey pucks but somehow I could get draw on them.
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Yeah,, but if you ignore that...
 
Bob Jewett said:
Well, no, it isn't A typical Aramith pool ball is both smooth and round within 0.001 inches. That's one part in 2250. The Earth is ellipsoidal by about one part in 300, and has mountains and troughs that together range up and down by about 8 miles or one part in 1000. I think Dr. Dave had an article on this.
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For those interested, here is the article:

"Is a Pool Ball Smoother Than the Earth?" (BD, June, 2013)

and more info can be found here: pool ball smoothness and roundness.


Bob Jewett said:
Here's what Wikipedia had to say about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth

I'm waiting for someone to tell me that pool balls are really flat. I used to have nightmares like that -- hockey pucks but somehow I could get draw on them.
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Are the Flat Pool Balls in your nightmares also Hollow with Aliens living inside? That would make them much more interesting. Maybe that's why I missed that easy shot in league last night. Or maybe it was due to the gravitational anomily created by the huge ice walls supporting the oceans at the ends of the Flat Earth.

Regards,
Dave
 
Dan White said:
This would be false.



OK, so let's dispense with the condescending attitude if you really want to learn something. You don't realize it yet, but you are completely out of your depth on this subject. And, yes, I can back that up with real science.

This isn't really the place for such a debate, but when I see people throwing around suggestions that global warming/climate change is anything other than a political agenda, or just plain bad science (take your poison), I have to challenge it.

You said it is easy to admit when you are wrong. Let's test that hypothesis:

I'm making an assumption that you aren't intimately familiar with the sources below that I'm suggesting you take a look at (or else you would be questioning global warming). I realize going into this discussion that you probably won't take the time to follow through, but I guarantee you that if you do, and you allow the actual science to guide you, you will have a new opinion on the subject.

ClimateAudit.org - This site is operated by Steve McIntyre and was voted best science site on the internet a couple of years ago.

Homework assignment: Go to ClimateAudit.org and scroll down the left column to "Favorite Posts." Find the one on "McKitrick: What is the Hockey Stick Debate About?". Here is a link for your convenience:

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/McKitrick-hockeystick.pdf

Read this article and then search the website for articles containing Michael Mann and the hockey stick. As a bonus, read any/all articles McIntyre has written regarding temperature proxy reconstructions, including the one he did himself.

Can you answer the following questions:
1) What does "hide the decline" mean,
2) What is the IPCC and why did their first report show a medieval warm period with temperatures higher than current temps, and why was this graph "disappeared" in subsequent annual reports,
3) What is the significance of the phrase "upside down Tijlander" lake sediments,
4) Are bristlecone pine proxies critical to the hockey stick graph, yes or no, and why are they useless at temperature proxies?

Next, take a visit to RealClimate.org, run (illegally on taxpayer time) by Gavin Schmidt. Compare this site to RealClimate.org in terms of censorship and propaganda and report back.

OK, all kidding aside, take a look at the information above. The problem we have in this discussion is that most of climate change science is heavily wrapped up in politics and money. Even the name is political. It used to be "global warming." Even the co-founder of Greenpeace says climate change is a scam and it only exits because the media, politicians, and scientists all benefit from its existence.

You will be a bigger man than most if you are able to challenge your current belief system re climate change and really dig into the science instead of trusting others to tell you that the science is solid. Let me give you a heads up: What typically happens is that someone starts educating themselves on temp proxies, and then says, 'OK, well maybe proxies aren't that great, but boy look at the melting ice caps." Then the ice caps don't look so foreboding and they say, "OK, but look at the lake varve sediments, or Antarctica or the polar bears" and on and on. Eventually you come to realize that there is no good science buttressing the political movement. Even a nobel laureate in mathematics (I think that was his field) fell into the same trap.

I'll leave it at that. It'll be interesting to see how capable you are of admitting you were wrong when it really means something to you, rather than just bashing some misguided pool players.

Your choice to learn, or not...
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@MuchoBurrito: Your silence is crushing my hopes and dreams! Is it possible you only debate issues with people when you have 100% lock on being right? I've seen lock artists on the pool table, but I didn't figure you for one.

I'm holding out hope that you are still working on your homework assignment..:rolleyes:
 
dr_dave said:
For those interested, here is the article:

"Is a Pool Ball Smoother Than the Earth?" (BD, June, 2013)
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Thanks for posting that, Dave. Very interesting! Two follow up questions:

1) Can you use thermal imaging to determine whether a pool ball heats up more under table lights than the Earth does under global warming,

2) Where there any men in white uniforms and butterfly nets waiting for you outside the lab?

Thanks,
 
Dan White said:
Thanks for posting that, Dave. Very interesting! Two follow up questions:

1) Can you use thermal imaging to determine whether a pool ball heats up more under table lights than the Earth does under global warming,
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I can, but I won't. I don't want the aliens inside of the flat and hollow pool balls to think I am studying them. I don't wnat to get "probed."

In regards to anyone who might not believe the aliens are inside the balls, you cannot prove that they are not there unless you cut in half every pool ball in the world? And even if you did cut open every ball, if the aliens are smart enough to be in the balls, they are probably smart enough to fool us into thinking they are not there even if we do cut open the balls.

Dan White said:
2) Where there any men in white uniforms and butterfly nets waiting for you outside the lab?
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No, but there were several black helicopters hovering outside of the building, and I think they followed me home.

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
I can, but I won't. I don't want the aliens inside of the flat and hollow pool balls to think I am studying them. I don't wnat to get "probed."

In regards to anyone who might not believe the aliens are inside the balls, you cannot prove that they are not there unless you cut in half every pool ball in the world? And even if you did cut open every ball, if the aliens are smart enough to be in the balls, they are probably smart enough to fool us into thinking they are not there even if we do cut open the balls.

No, but there were several black helicopters hovering outside of the building, and I think they followed me home.

Regards,
Dave
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Unimpeachable logic :thumbup:

Someone has read his Erdos. :D
 
Thanks for resurrecting this thread Bob Jewett (by linking to it in another thread) Quite amusing!

Has anybody ever found out if Eberle actually believes this or is just joking around?
 
whether he believes or not many people do believe in completely obvious falsehoods. that is because they are either just stupid, taken in easily, or weak and need something to look to.
if you cant see that proven science is correct then you live in the dark ages.
 
westcoast said:
Thanks for resurrecting this thread Bob Jewett (by linking to it in another thread) Quite amusing!

Has anybody ever found out if Eberle actually believes this or is just joking around?
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Have YOU ever spoken with Max about this? If you did, your question would be moot!
 
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On the topic of conspiracy stuff or speculation when I look at google maps I see one place on Earth which looks like a big assed asteroid struck there. The Hudson Bay. The story of what happened to the man it is named after is also interesting. His crew were not as excited about Hudson bay as Henry Hudson and set him adrift in a small boat never to be heard from again. He previously discovered the Hudson River.

Now back to your regularly scheduled conspiracy theories and worthless speculation.
 
JC said:
Max was up at our Western BCA regional event all week last week and I got the chance to chat with him about a lot of stuff non pool related.

I found there to be nothing goofy about him. Just a genuine smart, nice guy.

JC
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That scares me to hear your assessment of Max.
 
I have had the chance to have a few drinks with Max. He was great to hang with, we talked about art and Max was very fun to talk with. Looking forward to the next time.
 
It's hard to imagine a thread less worthy of being bumped, other than for the purpose of having it moved to NPR.

It unnecessarily attacks and tries to belittle a man who holds a very uncommon view. Max is one of the classiest guys in pool, and this thread accomplishes absolutely nothing.
 
TATE said:
They actually tried putting some on cruise ships. I want to barf just watching this game. Max may be quirky but he's a nice guy.

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It actually seems to work pretty well!! As much as the table is moving they must have been in rough seas!
 
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