Insight into Fatboy

[bfdlad]

It's a mockery of the game because by his own admission he plays like sh*it but still threw in his $3k, people who watched or payed for that game want to see good players, not people who will just buck the system because they think they can.

U12, I am really split on your opinion. Part of me says that you are right but the other part of me says "hey if thats what it costs for him to get attention or just be involved in the game he has every right to play in any tournament he chooses. I mean should he not enter the US Open because he has no chance of winning? If that was the case the US Open would be a 64 player event.

 

[The Beginner]

It's a mockery of the game because by his own admission he plays like sh*it but still threw in his $3k, people who watched or payed for that game want to see good players, not people who will just buck the system because they think they can.

10 ball ring game is an open to anybody..if you have the balls and $$$ to enter so your are open....
there's nothing in the rules of 10 balls ring game stating that if you are not a pro you are not qualified...
is not how much money he can spread away or how much he can afford to buy....i think he deserved or anyone else to enter that game.
.either US open or Canadian OPEN....if you have the cash and confident to play so be it....he had his moment when he entered in the ring w/ the best in the name of pool .
When i was a kid I told myself that i want to play w/ Efren even if i loose and i have a story to tell to anyone that I played with best player who ever played the game....
.and im sure when he Eric become a father or a grandfather he has a story to tell his kids or grandkids....
.so I guess Fatboy has alot of heart and balls to enter than you are.....

 

[DrJ]

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[bfdlad]

On the theme of characters, if anyone here is a snooker fan and have followed the sport you will know that the sport makes many millionaires in the UK. The main reason is some of the characters. Check out youtube and type in the search "when snooker ruled the world" I think its in 6 parts and takes about an hour to watch but it is very interesting and what you see is what I think pool is missing.

 

[Jaden]

Fun IS missing from pool....

What's all the talk about being the new sheriff in town? I didn't know that position was available. Did the previous Sheriff put in a two weeks notice? Calling yourself the Sheriff sounds a lot like someone giving them self a cool nickname rather than having earned it.

I ask you to please not take offense to anything I say below, I am just trying to offer constructive advice on your personal endeavor to become the Sheriff of Nottingham...err Pool.

The greatest characters in our game like Minnesota Fats, Cornbread Red, the Ether, Scotty Townsend didn't tell everyone they were characters... they became characters by their actions on and off the table. I think you need to actually get up and actually play some champions... find some good spots good for you and send it in. I haven't heard of you playing anybody besides maybe Jay a few games of banks and you beat on that dead horse many times since. The only big gambling I've heard you did was side betting on matches that Shane was involved in. And the one time you thought Shane had the worst of it against Alex... you bet against him when you could have bet on him and broke all of Derby City. But I suppose you'd rather prove that you have gamble by flipping a coin.

If you'd like to help TAR out, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you became a big sponsor of theirs. Ask anyone, knowledgeable on pool, what's something good happening in the game and I'm sure TAR would be up at the top of that list. If you want to do something for the sport, help TAR become bigger and better, do it financially.

I don't believe that what pool needs is a fun crusade either. Go into any pool hall on any weekend and you will find many guys & girls out just shooting pool and having fun. The general public knows pool is fun, they just don't have an interest in professional pool. In today?s day and age I believe there are just too many things people have to choose from to ever have professional pool accepted by the masses.

It's true what you say, though Fatboy, pool does need more characters... I'd just like to see someone earn that title, rather than tell me that they're a character.

Fun is Definitely missing from top pool.... Sure you can have bangers out there having fun, but as soon as someone starts to take the game seriously, you have hustlers and sharks come out of the woodwork and if the people who want to start taking the game seriously aren't willing to take a nose bleed or even a coma for a while to get past it, then they are going to lose the fun side that got them interested in taking pool more seriously to begin with and give it up, then when top pool comes on tv, they will get sick to their stomach and turn it off. And these two bit cheats and hustlers just don't seem to understand that their little scores from these lockups that they setup against the new players are what's been ruining top pool's chances for success...

For a long time, this is what has held back my game because I hate playing in weekly tourneys and destroying the people who are trying to get better, so I would hold back and try to just barely beat them so they wouldn't feel too discouraged. I've had to fight really hard to get over that mindset and start thinking a little about myself and I'm starting to be able to play my game more consistently, but at the same time, we;ve got to help these players who want to get better to do just that.

I will give lessons to anyone, just to help the game and to help people to have MORE fun, because there is nothing more fun IMO than playing excellent pool. But these lock artists and people just looking to take advantage of the naive, new and gullible only drain the fun from pocket billiards and the whole idea of play me some sets and watch me play if you want to learn how to play is B.S. Try really giving some people the knowledge if you have it and really help people to get better and stop trying to just take advantage of people....

I still run into people trying to take advantage of me, attempting to setup games that are a lckup mo matter how well I play. I may not always be trying my best, but I always tell people what my game is, if they don't want to believe it it's on them, but I don't play for much money and I never instigate the games so no one can call me a lockup artist, especially since I usually end up losing to lockup artists. Hell even when I win and beat them I end up losing a lot of the time. I know most people don't understand that statement, but it is real in a lot od situations. Just don't let a lockup artist ever get up on you, if you don't understand that concept, or as soon as you start to turn it around, they'll quit you and leave you holding the bag.

If this statement gives some of you a bad taste in your mouth and you are trying to tell yourself that this is not the reason that pro pool is suffering, you may want to ask yourself if you fall into the aforementioned category....

 

[lodini]

read it again...not at all, whats wrong with trying to make pool fun and being a fun guy to watch, I dont play worth a shit, if what I'm doing is bad sorry. you could do what I do I aint any better or different than anyone else.

I don't think there is anything wrong with making your mark on pool; more power to you if you do! ... but do you really have to announce that you plan on doing it? That's the part that makes it seem like you are full of yourself.

Edit: sorry, got ahead of myself here... others have already made this point. I was always told... the really cool kids never have to tell you how cool they are, they just are.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I don't think there is anything wrong with making your mark on pool; more power to you if you do! ... but do you really have to announce that you plan on doing it? That's the part that makes it seem like you are full of yourself.

Edit: sorry, got ahead of myself here... others have already made this point. I was always told... the really cool kids never have to tell you how cool they are, they just are.

Understand your point, point well taken. However, the flip-side is: many people were dogging Eric to death in other threads knocking left and right - calling him a nit, etc. What's wrong with posting his intentions? He's not saying he's cool - he's just saying he's "getting it going" -- mixing things up to help pool become a little more exciting.

I've read 1000000000 posts on here that had less meaning (DCP, you reading this)? If you can't post that here, what are you going to post on AZB? Aiming systems again? Which tip to use for the 1000x? Another SVB thread?

I think people over-analyze things on here--- looking for tones that don't exist. I know that miiight be news to people... lmao

Anyways, you have a good point, but there's an equally strong opposite point.

 

[Tszyu]

bla bla bla im fatboy the most important, richest, greatest "gift" to pool. I make threads about how great I am, how I run things now that I'm the self-appointed new sherriff in town and pretty much was ignored the bulk of my life and grew up to be AN ATTENTION WHOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEE. I am the future of pool, basically, the 2nd coming bla bla bla. Fatboy runs things so get on my bandwagon cause I've got $ oozing from my pores or get off because if you don't like me and my self-aggrandizing posts, it's only cause you're jealous. I am as annoying as Fast Larry, but in a different way. Anti Fatboy posts will get deleted by Fatboy personnel (I'm too busy making $$$$ to delete them myself-my fanboys do my dirty work)

Fatboy, I bet in person you're an ok guy, but your posts ARE ANNOYING AND FULL OF YOURSELF. I know if you don't like them, don't read them. But you love being the center of attention and lately all posts are related to you.

 

[lodini]

I've read 1000000000 posts on here that had less meaning (DCP, you reading this)? If you can't post that here, what are you going to post on AZB? Aiming systems again? Which tip to use for the 1000x? Another SVB thread?

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Hey Spider, no hard feelings... I know there will be opposing views to mine...

That's the beauty of a forum like this. He has every right to start as many threads about himself as he would like, but we all equally have the right to question, analyze and respond how we see fit.

 

[Willy_BadDream]

Sorry I Gotta Say This So Loud!

WHATEVER!

 

[Thecoats]

I am not sure there is a big market for watching a top player try and out run a huge spot to an average player regardless of the money at stake. I have seen this several times with Cliff Joyner and James Walden giving huge weight and it is fairly boring and usually kind of sad to see the average player struggle to continually get out of the better players traps. For me the beauty of the action challenges is the mano-de-mano of two great players engaged in a long race for a substantial purse.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

-don

 

[JoeyA]

I just put this in a thread but thought it would make a good thread:





No matter what I'm the new Sheriff in town. I'm not KT promising to make pool players rich, I dont have anything to sell, what I want to do Is generate interest in pool and pool has pleanty of good players, Pool needs a charcter and thats me. I'm not a one trick pony and will carry the day until I leave pool again, Years ago I was a little known rail bird/player but not any more, I'm far far from being a top player but I'm good action, a charcter(something pool needs badly) and my goal is to be loved/liked/respected/tollerated. I hope no one hates me, if you do please confront me.

I will carry the day and I will be in the 10 ball ring game next year and anything else I can manage, I'm trying to get a deal with TAR to come play in SD every 3-6 months if there are enough buys, big $$$ and me getting a big spot. I came to Nashville to play Bartrum but my back is to bad to play period. You can bet that I will be fun to watch in action as I talk to the balls, rails, etc not to shark who I'm playing if I bother them I shut up, I'm a gentalman to play, but I believe the balls do listen.

Eric's goal is to make "Fatboy" a household name in pool, give pool a shot in the arm and show people that anyone can have fun playing pool. I been around pool since 85 dropped out of the "scene" for 10 years but still played 6 of the 10 I was off the radar, when I came back I decided I wanted to do something other than be a rail bird and unknown player that has my plan here since day one and until I had a plan I kept myself mostly private(thanks to the 30 of you who respected that) some guys I made friends with here and not one of them sold me out, good solid stand up guys, you know who you are thanks again!!!. Its not an ego thing, i swear on my moms grave its to show people pool is fun, and anyone can make it fun. This is what pool needs not the B-itching, nits, negitative attitude that permiates pool. I cant fix it but I'm gonna do my best to make pool a fun game, didnt we all start playing for that reason? where did we lose that along the way? I was real negitative before I took some time off. Not anymore. And that changed my life for the better, when I came back to pool I saw just how negitive it can be and thats the cancer of this game, can I fix it? NO, but I wont be around it or create it.


So Fatboy is here to stay, i'm gonna do my best to give pool a uplift(not make inflated claims of $$$ etc), I'm gonna be in tough action with the TAR guys I hope it sells for them, I wont play in games that are blow-outs, I will win and lose but you can be rest assured that if they work with me and I can find the right games they will be fun and on a kinda regular basis. I dont know what else I'm gonna do, just be me here as usual. Who knows but Fatboy is a fun, real, approachable and not full of shit.


this post is my reply to the huge volume of posts here this past week about what happened at the Derby and me sharing who I am. I showed up at the ring game and felt great(my mom would have been in the front row) I will bet I wont be the first guy out next year, we'll book that action come game time., I asked tooth for a bet as promised(did happen...oh well) I promis other things in the future, I hope I dont disappoint anyone. i'm havin fun say what you like and have fun with me, thats what its all about. I know the pros who do this for a living have a different out look and I respect that and am not making a mockery of their living, it is tragic how little they are rewarded for what they do, I cant help them(unless I make a bad game with one)

so there it is I priobably left off alot of stuff and pissed a few more people off, sorry if I did, like I said find me if I upset you, my pm box is full often so have a bit of patience, i wont ignore anyone intentionally.

Fatboy, you have a big ego and it could grate on some. You say some grandiose things that not everyone believes and you'll have to accept that. You have some bucks and that probably grates on some. You have a bad back and that's the way it is. You "shoot like sh*t" but want to improve. YOU SAY YOU LOVE POOL. The last one allows me to accept you as you are.

As to your claims: and as my daddy always said, "Don't tell me, SHOW ME".

JoeyA (can't wait to see your tenacity for staying around pool when the bloom is off the rose)

 

[bfdlad]

I'm just interested and maybe nosey but I keep hearing how much money Fatboy has. Not from him but from others on here actually in this thread. I would like to know How did he make his money? where does it come from?

 

[Black-Balled]

I don't think the ansewr has been put out for general consumption, nor should you expect it to be.

You could search his old posts for a bit of insight (Murphy's Law: I think search is not working now )

 

[RiverCity]

That's ridiculous. How is that showboating your cash? It's what.....$3,000? That's nothing compared to the experience he had. And how is that making a mockery of the game? Fatboy had every right to play in that game, just like everyone else. If he wants to donate some cash, let him. Why would any body possibly want to keep someone who obviously loves the game, and wants to donate thousands of dollars to it's players, away from pool? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Taking the limelight off of the players to shine it on yourself......is making a mockery of the game.
In poker it started with the players who had 10k to "play with the pros".... now look at the WSOP. The best players no longer have the edge of their skill, because the sheer number of opponents nulls out skill.
In this situation buying a seat in this ring game was the same thing.... it was saying the 3k entry is not important to me, I want to test myself against the pros, and get some exposure. However, if he wanted to do something for pool, putting the 3k in the prize fund and watching another player who might have had an actual chance in the game would have been a better choice. Hell, he could have put someone in the thing who had a chance...... but instead chose to get himself some attention.

This is not about money, this is not about intentions (misguided as they may be)...... its about being an attention whore, and telling everybody who will listen your life story and woes, and then in the next breath bragging about something like being THE PERSON who will save pool BECAUSE IM A CHARACTER.
If you have trouble seeing that, Im sorry. But its there in black and white for all to see.
Chuck

 

[Scaramouche]

On the theme of characters, if anyone here is a snooker fan and have followed the sport you will know that the sport makes many millionaires in the UK. The main reason is some of the characters. Check out youtube and type in the search "when snooker ruled the world" I think its in 6 parts and takes about an hour to watch but it is very interesting and what you see is what I think pool is missing.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=72866

 

[Scaramouche]

U12, I am really split on your opinion. Part of me says that you are right but the other part of me says "hey if thats what it costs for him to get attention or just be involved in the game he has every right to play in any tournament he chooses. I mean should he not enter the US Open because he has no chance of winning? If that was the case the US Open would be a 64 player event.

So many serious people

I'll bet the other players in the ring game were happy to have Fatboy's money in the pot.

 

[easy-e]

Taking the limelight off of the players to shine it on yourself......is making a mockery of the game.
In poker it started with the players who had 10k to "play with the pros".... now look at the WSOP. The best players no longer have the edge of their skill, because the sheer number of opponents nulls out skill.
In this situation buying a seat in this ring game was the same thing.... it was saying the 3k entry is not important to me, I want to test myself against the pros, and get some exposure. However, if he wanted to do something for pool, putting the 3k in the prize fund and watching another player who might have had an actual chance in the game would have been a better choice. Hell, he could have put someone in the thing who had a chance...... but instead chose to get himself some attention.

This is not about money, this is not about intentions (misguided as they may be)...... its about being an attention whore, and telling everybody who will listen your life story and woes, and then in the next breath bragging about something like being THE PERSON who will save pool BECAUSE IM A CHARACTER.
If you have trouble seeing that, Im sorry. But its there in black and white for all to see.
Chuck

I still have to disagree that anything about that ring game made a mockery out of pool. There was an open spot and he bought it. How did he take anyone's spotlight? By sucking? I think Shane had plenty of spotlight. Until the powers that be say that you must be a top pro to compete in their ring game, then there is no mockery. Am I making a mockery out of pool when I enter a tournament that I have no chance at winning? I don't think so. I donate my money to have a good time and hopefully play some people much better than I. Probably the same reasons he entered the ring game.

If you don't support what he is doing, then stop paying so much attention to it. We will all wait and see together how things turn out.

 

[ericdraven]

 

[JimS]

Sure, he has an ego. Everyone does! And if he wants to be the front man for something new and exciting in pool, I say GO FOR IT! It sure beats sitting on the sidelines being a critic.

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