Jay Helfert owes an apology!

Makes perfect sense to me. Sounds like it was the place to be, and he made it work to everybody's benefit. Great job and thanks for doing it, Jay :p
 
Neil said:
I'm a little behind lately- just what did the challenge consist of? And what was the high run in 14.1?
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The one pocket challenge was the standard one pocket shoot-out proposition. Pick a pocket, break the balls as you want, and shoot to your pocket until you miss. Do 5 racks of that, and your score is your total. There are a few details like what to do on a scratch on the break.

The high runs at 14.1 were posted by Marop in another thread:
Immonen 147
Petroni 140
Feijen 130
Deuel 107
Schmidt 100
Hohmann 98
Souquet 92
Appleton 73

Feijen had two other runs over 100. Both Immonen's and Petroni's runs were on the back table which seemed to play quite a bit tougher than the front table in the Drinkwater Room.

My recollection of the final night of the one pocket challenge are different from Jay's.
 
Sounds good to me jay. We knew there was a good explanation as to what happened.
Any one that knows you personally like I do would never have a doubt.
Looks like this may be the main event next year. I hope to be there.
 
good post!

renard said:
Sounds good to me, I have no problem with it; and no participant seems to be screaming either. This is all Shakespeare...Much ado about nothing.
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Good post but no rep for it, they tell me it is still too soon.

Like you, I haven't noticed anyone that might have been done out of some money fussing. If the guys with the scores in the forties are happy, I don't see much sense in anyone else being unhappy. Maybe his run would have been a little less on a different table but there is little doubt he still would have won.

Hu
 
jay helfert said:
Gabe's 60 was a remarkable achievement, and I won't be taking anything away from it here. As far as I'm concerned, you could have let everyone in the entire One Pocket tournament take a swing at it (including Efren) and no one would beat that score. His 60 compares with a pro golfer shooting a 59! IMHO


I went first to the AZ room, and the guys in there were great and agreed to let us use one table. The only problem was all the spectators who were sweating it. So I ran into the tournament room and matches were still underway. Everywhere but on the TV table, which is one that I had been using most every night for the Ring Ten Ball game. It was open, and there was plenty of room for people to watch. I made a snap decision to finish the Challenge there. It was an identical table to the one we had been using, except it had newer cloth and hotter lighting. I never considered that I was making a mistake. I thought it would be a great place to finish the Challenge.

So I returned to the original room and informed all the players that we would be moving to the TV table. I explained that we had been asked to leave this room immediately. No one said a word in complaint! They just wanted the turns they had paid for. And about 1 AM, off we went to finish up. Corey, Alex, Cliff, Gabe and a few others fired away until 7 AM. There were a couple of scores over 40 (Alex had a 46), and then Gabe shot his spectacular 60. He just played perfect, broke good and ran the balls like a genius. I watched the whole thing. He strung together five good innings, which is EXTREMELY hard to do.

Mika even came down and we gave him three tries to try to top Gabe. He couldn't get to 40. All the players agreed that the TV table broke better, but that was about it. The pockets were the same as were the rails. I refuse to apologize for running an event which was so well received by everyone. There are things I can do to make it better next year. And yes, mistakes were made. Greg has assured me that next year, we will have our own room. This year was an experiment, and it worked out great. Gabe won $1,500 and we paid out another $1,500 to the next three players. The added money all came from people at AZ, so we can be proud of this event. Next year, I think we can expect some added money from Diamond as well. It should be bigger and better in 2009. Thanks again to all of you who contributed.

And thanks for listening to my side of the story.
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This info is totally on the square. I was in the AZ room when Jay asked us to move so they could continue the challenge. I broke my cue and headed to the tournament room later to see the challenge match being played. There were plenty of us watching...no way we would have fit in the AZ room and there were not nearly enough chairs if we had tried. Instead I got to sit comfortably and watch Gabe put on a show. He ran off two consecutive racks nearly 30 balls in his hole without a miss. That was the best inning I have ever seen. Other players including Cory followed Gabe and got the same opportunity he did. They played well but Gabe had the nuts.

Thanks Jay for putting the action together. It was a run I will never forget and I would not have seen it if you hadn't chosen a table with room for the fans.
 
I was there also and Jay had nothing to gain by Gabe winning or losing so leave it be. Jay rocks in my opinion.--Leonard
 
THis is the most inane post I have ever seen on this site. Jay owes no apology. I was there. Alex, Corey, Gabe, etc were lined up in the tv room to attempt the ghost. If you dont know the the Drinkwater room it is very good for straight pool. Small quite and off from the main scene. The tv room made it available to the wide array of fans who were interested in it. Dont forget there were over 400 one pocket players in the tourney itself. Many of us were interested. As a matter of fact Alex got into a minor spat with Corey in the tv room because Alex wanted another try and Corey didnt let him. Alex said Corey had multipel tries and Alex wanted his as he was getting in stroke. THis was around 1AM. So Alex continued with a new try while everyone waited. Including Gabe. Gabe wasnt the only one on the tv table. To make accusations without the fact is inane and it is you who owe Jay an apology.
Jay's only interest in this was to make this fun, entertaining, and a test of skill. He put in his own time, money, and effort. He didnt have to do this. Why do the haters always come out of the woodwork to put negativity on something that was exciting and interesting to the pool fan. Jay you are a genius to bring this to the DCC. I hope this continues to become a regular event.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
The one pocket challenge was the standard one pocket shoot-out proposition. Pick a pocket, break the balls as you want, and shoot to your pocket until you miss. Do 5 racks of that, and your score is your total. There are a few details like what to do on a scratch on the break.

The high runs at 14.1 were posted by Marop in another thread:
Immonen 147
Petroni 140
Feijen 130
Deuel 107
Schmidt 100
Hohmann 98
Souquet 92
Appleton 73

Feijen had two other runs over 100. Both Immonen's and Petroni's runs were on the back table which seemed to play quite a bit tougher than the front table in the Drinkwater Room.

My recollection of the final night of the one pocket challenge are different from Jay's.
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Substance? Sour grapes??
 
Thumbs up on creating another fine addition to the DCC Jay. The one pocket challenge just adds to the carnival of pool atmosphere that is the DCC. I wonder how they are going to do it next year since they said it wont be held at the Executive West anymore. Does the convention center that is rumored to be the landing place of the 09 DCC even have small setoff rooms to do a challenge like this?

Thumbs down to the original poster of this thread. You could have PM'd Jay and asked him what was up before you started this.
 
jay helfert said:
Bob Jewett informed me that I had to finish up in a few minutes because he was going to lock up the room. Duh? What??
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AHA -- so it was all Jewett's fault?! I knew it, I so knew it!!

-- peer
(just like to tease Bobby ;^)
 
Jay...There's ALWAYS another side to the story, and usually the sour grapes stories come up first, before the real information comes out. You and Steve put on an awesome event, and when put in a pinch (instead of having to refund entry fees), you jumped in and secured a great place to finish the OP Challenge, where there was plenty of room for people to watch. IMO there's no such thing as an EASY Diamond table. Just the design makes them tough to play on, compared to some other brands. Gabe put on a OP clinic to come up with a 60 under the gun. Congrats to him, and congrats to you and Steve, for a great event that was enjoyed by a LOT of players (including a ton of us who were only able to follow the progress here, because we couldn't be there)! Nice job!:D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

jay helfert said:
And thanks for listening to my side of the story.
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You OBVIOUSLY have nothing to apologize for sir. If you were asked to leave the room you had to do what you had to do....end of story.

And by the way, the straight pool event was played on TWO tables...not ONE table.

Regards,
Jim
 
Scott Lee said:
Jay...There's ALWAYS another side to the story, and usually the sour grapes stories come up first, before the real information comes out. You and Steve put on an awesome event, and when put in a pinch (instead of having to refund entry fees), you jumped in and secured a great place to finish the OP Challenge, where there was plenty of room for people to watch. IMO there's no such thing as an EASY Diamond table. Just the design makes them tough to play on, compared to some other brands. Gabe put on a OP clinic to come up with a 60 under the gun. Congrats to him, and congrats to you and Steve, for a great event that was enjoyed by a LOT of players (including a ton of us who were only able to follow the progress here, because we couldn't be there)! Nice job!:D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Lucky for Gabe you weren't there. :)

We missed you Scott! I thought you were coming. It's always fun to hang out and talk with you and Willie. He gave me a great DVD of Louie Roberts gambling, and I gave him a copy of Puckett's interview on 60 minutes.
 
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Was it Louie playing Gary Seville?

Jay - Have you contacted Bob J. as he seems to have a beef with you?
 
jay helfert said:
So I returned to the original room and informed all the players that we would be moving to the TV table. I explained that we had been asked to leave this room immediately. No one said a word in complaint! They just wanted the turns they had paid for. And about 1 AM, off we went to finish up. Corey, Alex, Cliff, Gabe and a few others fired away until 7 AM. There were a couple of scores over 40 (Alex had a 46), and then Gabe shot his spectacular 60. He just played perfect, broke good and ran the balls like a genius. I watched the whole thing. He strung together five good innings, which is EXTREMELY hard to do.

Mika even came down and we gave him three tries to try to top Gabe. He couldn't get to 40. All the players agreed that the TV table broke better, but that was about it.
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I dont' think you have anything to apologize for. It looks like everyone who was in contention had a shot on that table. And that's what one of the leading participants of the challenge told me as well, after the rumor mill started up. Some people mistakenly have been led to believe that Gabe and only Gabe shot on that table. I thought this had been unsubstantiated pretty much immediately.

I think it is they who owe you an apology for dragging your efforts down.

Fred
 
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