TVmike has proven untrustworthy

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So, the money charged for the Dawn DVDs--- was that donated back to her family or did he profit from the memorial event?

A simple yes/no would do.
 
TVmike said:
I was hoping that considering how much negative attention people pay to hatred and disdain against people such as me and the number of people in this thread would support something unequivocally positive I did. Afterall 90% of what I do to begin with I do for FREE as it is. Now if I spent 15 hours working essentially with my equipment which is of very high value then another 10 hours to prepare the DVDS and coming out pocket for the event itself on gas, lodging it is disappointing when people even assume I am trying to do a business move and you assume it is business orientated when there is nothing about business at all.

In fact nothing I do has anything to do with business at all. Business and being a business man refers to ****ing people out of money as much as they can with a smile on their face because laws are written to make this happen. Banks, insurance companies, mortage companies, lawyers these are all business because they are designed to take your money. I don’t front a business if anything I would be classified as an artist or an engineer because I figure out how to do things and or come up with genius ideas and never is the idea to solely **** people out of money. In fact to me money isn’t important at all I give no strength to the concept of money which is why I am in so much emotional pain sometimes because I am FORCED to care about it. In fact I am a slave to the concept of money as we all are. I am forced to live in a false reality based upon slavery and oppression to other human beings because of this concept of money. Who do you think benefits from WAR? No countries do, in fact the bankers and fund BOTH sides benefit. Do you think the people of the countries that goto war want to kill thousands and millions of people? Of course not. It’s purely about business. WAR makes money. So much in fact and of course this is another topic al together but so much in fact that governments kill their own people on a regular basis including and especially this one.

In fact again this may sound crazy but money does not even truly exist. It’s a concept that is used to control you. Money is only in your mind, money could be anything as long as you believe it to be and everyone else believes it to be as well. It only exists when a transaction of some kind takes places and then it simply dissolves form existence. You believe a stack of bills to be powerful when in fact it’s nothing but paper. Being a slave to a forced reality is a painful experience and because I have been awake for quite a while now to this fact it is frustrating when I am forced to come up with money to pay these supposed “bills” forced upon me. In any evolved society money wouldn’t be an issue at all because it would not exist. Human greed and selfish motives drive the concept of money into being a forced reality. Maybe you don’t understand but when the dollar crashes completely those dollars will get you nothing because the perceived value will be nothing at all. When the worlds populations wakes up and realizes that .001 percents enslaves and controls the other 99.99 percent then we can perhaps evolve to the next level of civilized society.
The fact that business’s on a regular basis scam and rip you off for every dime you generate on a regular basis tells me I am not a business man, I do not conduct business.

This is a business, the federal reserve bank of the united states which is not only not a part of the federal government but it has the power to print money out of thin air then loan it out to the us government with interest on money that never existed in the first place. If you figure it out why this is allowed to even exist outside of human beings enslaving each other you let me know. The phrase Money is the root of all evil is heard often because it is. It was created to put you in perpetual slavery.
What I do is art and I ask that I be compensated for my art because it something I care deeply about and my time is valuable. Don’t talk to me about doing business unless you know my motives are strictly to screw someone out of money. The etymology of the word business is to be busy busy ness busyness or further to occupy ones time with meaningless activities.

Maritime law and language explained in the documentary “The occult world of commerce” by Jordan Maxwell will well inform you blow your mind out of the water I suggest you watch it on youtube or google video. You are born into this world through the birth canal or the berthing of a ship. You are a product delivered as merchandise from a ship at sea. We are all slaves because of a “birth certificate” or a manifest of delivery of a product that was delivered, what was delivered on that ship that was berthed. We are all slaves to these unseen masters who write these laws.
Just go outside and look up into the sky and you will know there is so much more to this forced reality placed up on us as slaves. So henceforth none of it matters how we treat maim kill, and create systems to oppress other human beings. This reality is so false but easy to see when when you look at the sky and open your mind.

I am simply trying to be compensated in some small form for something I love to do.
I’m not a business man.

Furthermore you might consider Jay a business man because he has used language and definition to twist and turn a story into something in so fact to **** me out of my money. That’s a business man.
In fact 90% of everything I do related to pool and streaming has been done for no cost at all to others yet I’ve incurred costs at every turn. So I not only enjoy the process or creating video DVDS but in so much it is an extension of the art and engineering skills I have to pay back those costs. As far people sending money and not getting what they asked for or intentionally mislead in a business manner it’s never happened. Yet you say MY reputation is damaged? I never got paid for ANY of those events Bad Blood, DCC anything. So how is it a business and how is my reputation damaged?

You tell me?

Yet I spend another 20 hours working to create something for other people yet, I’m still supposedly doing business for an intention of ****ing people out of money. I don’t think so by definition I am a not a business man because the time I spend is not meaningless.
Chew on it.

Furthermore I think there is a great misconception that I am not employed in fact I’ve been self employed for 20 years. Most recently my marketing and promotions “business” as you define it to be to help musicians went from making nearly 1.5k a week or next to nothing because of the economy. That’s why I’m *****ing. I am disappointed when I do a broadcast and I get nobody donating or buying any DVDS I make because I do everything at my own expense. It further will dis interest me to do such work and spend all the time streaming when no appreciation is shown.
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Is this you JB?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
So, the money charged for the Dawn DVDs--- was that donated back to her family or did he profit from the memorial event?

A simple yes/no would do.
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It is hard to tell by the way it is written but it appears that he is charging family members for DVDs and if they get multiples for $1 per disc.

TVmike said:
$1 per disc for multiples for Family including shipping, $5 in person no family or $8 including shipping.
Email a paypal payment to dvds@tvmike.tv or hit me up at TvMike Hustlin on Facebook.

If I was going to author a Video DVD package its 11 Hours 53 minutes of video including the bonus matches of Dawn and Adam Smith I put on there too. At highest quality it would take up 11 discs, at good quality 7, standard 5 discs and terrible quality 3 discs. So it's basically the highest quality all in one disc the way I did it for this event.
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If the content is put onto 3 discs and the quality is terrible, how bad is the quality when it is put onto only 1 disc? 3 times worse than terrible?
 
I enjoy playing pool. It is my passion. I would love to continue this art and not be burdened by the oppression that has enslaved us all. I will be in my basement playing 10 ball. If everyone who reads this could please send money to brandoncook26@hotmail.com it would be appreciated. I need to pay these "bills" so I have a house to continue my art.

Thanks.
 
dogginda9 said:
Wow...... Just plain old wow......
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Took the words right out of my mouth........

Seems like the question now is whether TVMike is donating all of the proceeds from this benefit to the family.

One of his last posts reads like he's charging the family per DVD ?? :confused:

Wow.........
 
Money does not truly exist?

I will take the highest quality copy of every DVD you have please.

Since money is a figment of my imagination, my payment will be as follows:

One (1) live chicken

Send them right away.....payment may take a while, as i had a hard time stuffing the live chicken into the mail box.
 
brandoncook26 said:
I enjoy playing pool. It is my passion. I would love to continue this art and not be burdened by the oppression that has enslaved us all. I will be in my basement playing 10 ball. If everyone who reads this could please send money to brandoncook26@hotmail.com it would be appreciated. I need to pay these "bills" so I have a house to continue my art.

Thanks.
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I'll send you a $10 e-check next Tuesday.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
Mike;

First, let me say that I can't figure out from your post what exactly it is you are trying to do (sell?) (fundraise?)... It isn't explained very well at all.
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Second, what I highlighted above tells me that you still don't get it. You conducted yourself in the deal that was the subject of this thread, like crap. Your challenge to "everybody who was so critical and judgemental" of you in a tone that smacks of, 'see guys, you were wrong about me, I'm really a good guy', causes me to shake my head.

Your rep and credibility took a big hit here on this thread and that was on the heels of a few other well known problems you've had like the Bad Blood stream fiasco, your pal Buffalo, spamming AZ member's pm boxes to the point of getting banned, unauthorized streaming at DCC, and reportedly taping a sign to yourself advertising dvd's you had for sale at DCC, just to name a few.

You may be doing something nice here with your post, I don't really know. But I think you have a lot of balls to come on here with your shady history and now for the second time on this thread, behind the tragedy of Ms. Fital's passing, you are making a plea for money to be sent to you. Regardless of whether your intentions are as pure as the driven snow, it all gives me great pause.

And FWIW, I did get to watch a few matches on your stream of her memorial tournament. While viewing, I didn't get to hear or see a way to make a donation to her family as I expected there would be. That's not to say there wasn't, because I was only there for those few matches, but again, there was no obvious way to donate to them that I saw.

What I did notice, however, was that on the header above the chat was your message asking for TVMike donations. Normally I would not have given that a second thought but considering all of the shady history it made me think, 'couldn't Mike have removed that for this event?'

This is a classic example, IMO, of "you reap what you sow'.

Best,
Brian kc
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Mike, I got to agree with Brian your post is confusing just tell us what share of the money from the DVDS is going to DAWN'S family.
 
Mike: I see what your trying to say,,,I think. Let me give it a shot.
Something bad happened,,which started this thread, and it got all kinds of attention.
Now you want to show something good has happened and are wanting the same attention.

Kinda like a experiment of the human kind. I do see some kind of point you are making, but your going about it all wrong. I was going to try to explain how this is not going to work ,,,but I really don't know how.

It is nice of you to stream the benefit though. Is that what you wanted?? Or do I need to send money?
 
BrokeStroke said:
Money does not truly exist?

I will take the highest quality copy of every DVD you have please.

Since money is a figment of my imagination, my payment will be as follows:

One (1) live chicken

Send them right away.....payment may take a while, as i had a hard time stuffing the live chicken into the mail box.
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And finally, this thread becomes entertaining. :thumbup:

(You want to shove the chicken in head first with one hand, and have the other ready to slam the lid shut...trust me.)
 
sydbarret said:
As Larry Lisciotti used to say "money only matters when you don't have any"
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Exactly. The only people who are a slave to money are the people who don't have money to begin with. Life gets a lot easier when you are debt free and earn a decent living. Debt and no money adds a ton of stress to people, I've been there.

The fact is, money is real. It's been real for a long long time. tvmike knows how real money is. He also knows how real the money he doesn't have is. Do we live in a fˆcuked up world? yes. But you gotta make the best of it. TVmike talks the "I dont care about money" thing but thats not how he feels. Nobody is forcing him to live the life he lives. Move to the middle of nowhere and live off the land. Hunt and grow your own food. People still live like this, you can too.

Its funny, I've had a lot of conversations with tvmike via facebook. Most of which makes him hate me... but I've broke it down to him and was honest with him. His goal was to make money streaming pool. He told me. I told him that even the big guys in pool streaming struggle to make money, adding another streamer to the mix only waters down the market more and everyone makes less. He thought he had the answers that the other guys didnt, so I wished him luck. Looks like he's starting to see where I was coming from.

Its a rough game.
 
sydbarret said:
As Larry Lisciotti used to say "money only matters when you don't have any"
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"I heard a long time ago that money can't buy happiness; and I realized that unless you have money you can't make that statement."

....Berry Gordy, founder of Motown Records.
 
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the420trooper said:
(You want to shove the chicken in head first with one hand, and have the other ready to slam the lid shut...trust me.)
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I had to shove the chicken in sideways....If i shoved it in head first, I would've been 'staring right down the barrel' so to speak. From my experience with chickens, you dont want to look them in the eye, and you definitely dont want to look them in the buckeye.
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
"I heard a long time ago that money can't buy happiness; and I realized that unless you have money you can't make that statement."

....Barry Gordy, founder of Motown Records.
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I'm still in Mark Twain mode:

"The lack of money is the root of all evil." -MT :thumbup:

Best,
Brian kc
 
jalapus logan said:
To acknowledge that the opposite can be true as well:

The possession of too much money is the root of all evil." -Me
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both quotes are false....some folks can be happy with no money, and some can be happy with a boat load of money. It's the folks that are NEVER happy with whatever their situation that causes evil.

What is interesting is when someone goes from one extreme to another - uber-wealthy businessman loses everything or down and out fellow hits the mega millions lottery....both situations will bring out their true character.
 
trustyrusty said:
What is interesting is when someone goes from one extreme to another - uber-wealthy businessman loses everything or down and out fellow hits the mega millions lottery....both situations will bring out their true character.
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I'd like to test that theory and see what my true character really is.... let's see if those damned Powerball numbers will come in!
 
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