What is your opinion on cuemakers that sign their cues?

1pRoscoe said:
Ok, so Pete has always signed every cue by hand? No.

Are you disagreeing that he used to sign earlier cues and now uses an overlay/screenprint for his signatures nowadays?

I always think it's funny that people want to make fun of others when they really don't know what they are saying in the first place. That's always amusing as well...

I prefer it if they have a nice signature, but I've seen some that need to stick to logos...
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ARE YOU SERIOUS??? WHO THE HELL PISSED IN YOUR CEREAL THIS MORNING? IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SHOTS AT ME, AT LEAST DO IT WHEN THEY MAKE SENSE, AND NOT WHEN I'M KIDDING AROUND.

NO HIS CUES AREN'T SIGNED, THAT'S WHY I HAD THE WORD SIGNATURE IN QUOTES.

DID I SAY THEY WERE ALL HANDSIGNED?

I NEVER SAID THAT HE DIDN'T USE AN OVERLAY.

WHO DID I MAKE FUN OF? ... ALL I SAID WAS THAT I ENJOYED ALL THE BS STORIES I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE "SIGNATURE"

1pRoscoe said:
I always think it's funny that people want to make fun of others when they really don't know what they are saying in the first place. That's always amusing as well...
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YOU WANT TO POINT OUT, WHERE IN MY POST THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT? MAYBE YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A LESSON ON PETE'S CUES AND HIS SIGNATURE SINCE YOU SEEM TO THINK YOU KNOW EVERYTHING.
 
1pRoscoe said:
You know, Marcus - sometimes your posts just wreak of arrogance and you can't even see it. Anyone looking at your response to Pauly the way you wrote it would say it appeared condescending towards him when he was just trying to provide some input.

I never claimed to know everything about anything. Trust me, the WORLD knows you are the Tascarella afficianado, historian, collector, and puppeteer. I'm not trying to encroach upon your "domain" by any means.
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I DON'T SEE IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING ARROGANT. I WAS MESSING AROUND.

THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW ME, WOULDN'T HAVE LOOKED AT MY RESPONSE THAT WAY...... PROBLEM IS, IT'S GUYS LIKE YOU THAT THINK YOU KNOW ME, THAT FEEL THE NEED TO CHIME IN.

I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS OF ME, NOR DO I CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK I KNOW. IF YOU KNEW ME, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I DON'T SEE IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING ARROGANT. I WAS MESSING AROUND.

THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW ME, WOULDN'T HAVE LOOKED AT MY RESPONSE THAT WAY...... PROBLEM IS, IT'S GUYS LIKE YOU THAT THINK YOU KNOW ME, THAT FEEL THE NEED TO CHIME IN.

I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS OF ME, NOR DO I CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK I KNOW. IF YOU KNEW ME, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.
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Its not really about knowing you. I know neither of you guys, but the claim that anyone would see the post as condescending was a little bit aggressive. I certainly fall in to the pool of "anyone reading the post" and I didn't see it as condescending at all.

Marcus does often come off as a guy who thinks he knows his stuff and I just chalk it up to the fact that he probably does know his stuff.

Ernie logos the but cap of his Ginacues and asks if I want a signature, which I think is a classy way to do it, I always opt for the signature, sometimes he puts it in a spot where you have to hunt to find it.

Kevin
 
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I like the Omen pin as well.

I really like how most Richard Harris cues are numbered under the bumper and then epoxyed over to prevent tampering.

I think if I was ever a cuemaker I'd come up with a numbering system and keep an index card with the cues info and who I sold it to. All cues leaving the shop would get a number.
 
lenoxmjs said:
I like the Omen pin as well.

I really like how most Richard Harris cues are numbered under the bumper and then epoxyed over to prevent tampering.

I think if I was ever a cuemaker I'd come up with a numbering system and keep an index card with the cues info and who I sold it to. All cues leaving the shop would get a number.
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Many do exactly that, although some are a little updated on that index card idea. Can you see numbers inside the joint of your Ginacue, looking straight down at the pin?

Kevin
 
I like signatures as a personal touch and to help authenticate the cue. Smaller and neater are better.

Eric Crisp's sig is cool, but a little big for me.

Scott
 
ScottR said:
I like signatures as a personal touch and to help authenticate the cue. Smaller and neater are better.

Eric Crisp's sig is cool, but a little big for me.

Scott
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I agree. I have recently, within the past months, began using a smaller signature. I found a tiny tipped pen that allows me to sign very small without blurr. I tried smaller sigs before but the pens I used caused the lines to look too thick & pudgy. I like fine lines. It's something that has bothered me for a long time but I couldn't do anything about it until I found the right pen. But yeah, I totally agree. The smaller the better.

As for preference, I like a nice, classy, unique signature. There are some mentioned in this thread that are really nice. I think the signature adds a personal stamp of approval & indicates it was built by a man, not a factory. Some signatures shouldn't be used, especially ones written sloppy in a thick paint pen or sharpie. If the lines are right & in the right location, signatures look good. I also like fine engraving like the Scruggs logo.
 
I didn't bother reading the whole post,
I went from the first page directly to the end
so I apologize if someone has already said this.
But, I prefer a logo, because most of the cuemakers
signatures are sloppy. I do however like the
Tascarella, it's neat with a little flair to it...
 
i prefer something like south west,out of sight,or tiny and undated,tiny and out of sight on bottom or screw,Gus and George did not sign many,but I guess the number of fine cues today forces something
dean
 
I request a signature on the cue that any builder creates for me. As others have stated, I also like the personal touch. Most customs are art IMO and deserve to be signed by the creator.
 
fsarfino said:
If the maker has a nice looking signature I think it adds to the overall look of the cue. if the signature looks horrible stick with a logo
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I personally okay with either, but I have to agree that if the cuemaker has great clear legible calligraphy or hand writing then I like it very much! I just prefer that the logo, signature, or whatever identifying marks are inconspicuous!

Logo's being small or in inconspicuously placed such as on the pin like Omen or Southwest. etc etc. Signatures, I liked how I had to hunt for my JPechauer signature on my dark wood player. You could barely see the signature, but its there. It gives kind of the same joy as finding Waldo.

I don't like broadcasting the type of cue I'm using, but I do like it when someone in the know asks me about it. I think that helps build respect when you can identify someone's cue without seeing a logo or signature.

I like what Ernie @ Ginacue has been doing after refinishing his cues. He signs the forearm and puts two dates: 1) the build date and 2) refinish date. Then again, Ernie has very nice writing.
 
Sig vs. Logo

If the signature is pleasing to the eye I'm ok with it (Ernie G.'s is my personal fav). If the signature is crude looking, some appear to be done with a dull black crayon, then leave them out of my cue please (Diveney's sig comes to mind). No offense, just my personal opinion and tastes... :)
 
In my opinion, whether or not the engraving, the signature or even the logo design, etc are sloppy or not, I hope that everyone here knows where such little details are being put into the cue at the first place. To me, it is for younger generations like me to be able to identify which cuemaker and what era the cues are beind made when confronted. So end of the day, based on reading the current posts in this thread. I do hope that no matter which camp you belong to, we are here to share and not to quarrel and make something out of nothing. Chill out people. :grin-square:

Lastly irregardless of whether the signature or any special identification on the cue is sloppy or not. To me, it brings out the character of the cue. If the cuemaker decides to have "sloppy" stuff, then so be it. Thats his character, as consumers, we cannot take this fact away from him or even her.
 
It just so happens that all three of my cues have a signature on them. I do not think a signature detracts from the overall beauty of the cue unless it is overstated and sloppy. I think Eric Crisp has a cool looking signature, almost like a logo. My Black Boar is very unique in the way Tony Scianella signed the cue. He no longer signs it this way which makes it very unique in my eyes. It was one of the main reasons why I purchased the cue in the first place. I do like Ernie's signature and Tascarella's signature. Someday I will have one of each.


Chris
 
I have no problem having the cuemakers name in the buttcap.
As long as it starts with an "S" and ends with an "I" :)
Best,
Ken
 
How many cuemakers are willing to sign or not sign, or have other ways of marking their cues, instead?

I've heard about cues that lost the sig due to a refinishing job. So, I had Gene burn his actual signature into one or two of my cues with a branding iron we bought for that purpose. But, he handwrites his signature on most cues. Of course, there have been a couple of customers who ordered cues to be built without any signature. Since the cues are built with at least one crown in every one, he has been known to accomodate a customer's wish to build a cue without a signature.
 
Logo's are much better to me, they are clean and always look the way they are intended to look. Signing it somewhere like under the butt cap or at the pin are okay but not in the middle of the points, looks tacky to me as well.

I like the date on there too though, just to let you know when it was made, but an LOA can do that too.

Some cuemakers have the catalog or production level lines they make lots of so if a signature separates them from being a 1 of a kind cue then that works too. I've had about 6 custom cues now and not a one has been signed somewhere obvious.
 
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