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uk_9_ball_convert said:

Filler would smoke a lot of people. Not sure how Tom would cope with 9ft table, not sure if he's played much snooker. He definitely wouldn't be phased by 4 inch pockets. U.S pool balls are 2.25 inches so they still only take up 62.5% of a pocket, which is the same ratio of ball size to pocket size in English pool. I'd argue English pool tables 4 of the pockets are cut in a tougher way to pot into (used to play English pool and now play 9 ball on a 9ft table with 4 inch pockets and potting a ball down a rail is 100 times easier on the American table), but I think the cut of the side pockets is maybe tougher on an American table. Arguably the biggest thing for Tom to adjust to is the cue ball being the same size as the object balls (obviously didn't hold him back against Bergman though).

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I agree that english pool table pocket that are similar to snooker table are harder than American pool tables. But ball to pocket ratio is just part of the story, the balls are heavier and bigger and requires a different stroke to get around, especially on a 9ft table vs the 7ft barbox or english 6ft tables. I'm sure that he could be very good with practice.
But people are watching him play 8ball now on 7ft tables with big pockets and think that it's harder than 8ball on 9ft tables with tight pockets, my argument is if you drop him NOW in a big pro WPA 8ball event, he won't get far.
Darren Appleton and Karl Boyes made the switch from English pool to American pool and became great players but it didn't happened over night and they didn't switch to barboxes with buckets for pockets... they were also younger than Tom when they switched.

My general argument is really not about Tom or any specific player, it's about 8ball on 7ft tables with huge pockets vs 8ball on pro 9ft tables and that some claim that the 7ft is harder... it's obviously not

lfigueroa said:

For a couple of reasons I just retipped a cue I hadn't played with in a couple of years -- I knew it needed it because whenever I'd shoot a low draw or jacked up draw I could hear a tap, indicating some air/separation.

Anywhos, I replace it this weekend with a Thoroughbred Medium Hard and it is perfect. A joy to play with. I can't say eoungh about these tips, having tried *all* the rest.

Lou Figueroa

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Lou,
Do you have a link to where you get them and do they have a Medium?

that’s how it looks on my phone, what browser do you use?

skor said:

Check the stats
There are less runouts in 9ball with WNT rules than you might think.
But why compare to 9ball?
Why not compare to 8ball on 9ft tables with tight pockets.
I doubt if Tom tries out a big 8ball event, that he will get far, definitely not at start without enough practice and experience.
Put him on a 9ft table with 4 inch pockets against Filler and he’ll get smoked, same for Bergman…

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Filler would smoke a lot of people. Not sure how Tom would cope with 9ft table, not sure if he's played much snooker. He definitely wouldn't be phased by 4 inch pockets. U.S pool balls are 2.25 inches so they still only take up 62.5% of a pocket, which is the same ratio of ball size to pocket size in English pool. I'd argue English pool tables 4 of the pockets are cut in a tougher way to pot into (used to play English pool and now play 9 ball on a 9ft table with 4 inch pockets and potting a ball down a rail is 100 times easier on the American table), but I think the cut of the side pockets is maybe tougher on an American table. Arguably the biggest thing for Tom to adjust to is the cue ball being the same size as the object balls (obviously didn't hold him back against Bergman though).

Mensabum said:

Justin all day mate.

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all day you say?

skogstokig said:

is tom welsh? he walks around like mark williams, who also doesn't have a care in the world

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Yes he is.

Burns said:

30-25. He made a nice comeback at the end, but too late. Both played really well for most of it. Justin's break let him down, but when Tom made a mistake, he really capitalized on it. I think a rematch would be much closer.m

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Burns said:

Maybe on an English 8 ball table

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Never saw that before on any Dufferin cue.

I actually hear people blame the table much more than the cue. Which is interesting, since their opponent is playing on the same table.

Awfully Quiet In Here from the early posters. Guess alot of money was lost and humbe pie eaten

8intheside said:

Not making excuses for Justin, but coul his new cue maybe have been a factor in the loss?

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I'm thinking he was still getting used to it, but his problem seemed to be with his break, either scratching or coming up dry. He started having success with it after changing it up, then missed once and switched it again. I believe Johnny went to him and relayed some advice from Appleton to go back to the break that was working. He did that and things started coming together. His position play and shot making seemed pretty typical of him.

I think the biggest reason people don’t use low and slow as much is because it’s way too easy to decelerate (which of course can mean you miss, you end up with follow, or you don’t hit it hard enough to make it).

I’m not saying we shouldn’t practice it, or that people shouldn’t try backing off, but I’d guess that most players below 550 Fargo will hit a firmer stop shot way better. Below 500 I’d say deceleration on that shot is the norm, especially under pressure.