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vintagecollectibles831 · Aug 1, 2026

Chopdoc said:
If you want to make an impression, that shaft is a $200 shaft, don't worry about the butt if you got that cue cheap.

Cut the butt. Post pictures.

I understand now that the entire cue is just one big Decal (other then maybe not the Maple Handle), but I am still of the belief that at least the Figured Maple in the handle is real.

Or, is that a Decal too? Lol, i guess I would not be surprised if it is..Looks so real to me though.

The thing about Decal cues is that whenever I would see one in the past, and it had dings in it, the dingle would always expose the maple that is under it..

This cue us full of dings, and no Decals were chipped off, from the dings. I guess they put a nice, very thick clear finish on this cue though..

Lowell · Aug 1, 2026

Seo Seo and Savannah Easton just took out Rita Chou and Kristina Tkach in the doubles event.

Some people were saying they'd be an awful pairing but they've looked mostly very smooth.

vintagecollectibles831 · Aug 1, 2026

Chopdoc said:
If you want to make an impression, that shaft is a $200 shaft, don't worry about the butt if you got that cue cheap.

Cut the butt. Post pictures.

I have learned that the entire cue is a Decal, over the Maple, but I still believe that the figured Maple handle is real.

But if that too is just a Decal, then I guess the cue is just one long POS.

In any case, I feel that it still has value. Seems like such a waste to chop the thing up, into small pieces, lol.

To be honest, the butt has a really great feel to it, and I really love the way it plays with the i3 shaft.

I will end this with saying that I was wrong though. Everything just looked so real to me though. I did not want to believe that the cue was just one giant Decal, lol.

Maybe at least the Figured Maple handle is real though.

sjm · Aug 1, 2026

Island Drive said:
Technically he should of stood on the left side of the shooter, would of been much closer to the foot rail and could of immediately been allot closer to the foot rail.
If he did that, this would be a very experienced referee thinking in this manner, he would of known the one ball separation off the foot rail could cause the parallel cb spin walk'.

Perhaps so, Bill, but few would have foreseen that a call might have to be made beneath the short rail, and no referee would have been positioned where this call was best made. The scenario in which the object ball failed to reach a rail would have been hard to imagine, as one would have expected much more cue ball speed on this kick. A judgement call was always going to be needed, and in my opinion, the referee's judgment was accurate in this case.

Fvalstounge · Aug 1, 2026

Had some fun with this the other night. Give it a try, let me know what you think.

Risk overview:
Game is played in rounds, with each player getting one turn at the table per round. Winner is the player with 31 points or more at the end of any round. Must win by two points. A match is best of three or best of five. Players alternate who plays first in each game. Winner of lag determines who plays first.

The rack:
Six balls. one ball on spot, two and three in second row, four five and six in third row (left to right).

Play:
Each turn begins with a free break. Any pocketed balls are spotted (lowest first). A scratch on the break ends the turn. Play the cue where it lies after the break. The player may shoot any ball in any pocket. Only called shots count. Any scratch or foul or miss ends the turn. Accidentally pocketed balls stay down and do not count for any points or towards any bonus points. Score as high as you can, then the opponent plays.

Scoring:
Each ball pocketed on a called shot is 1 point.
Each ball pocketed on a called bank shot, kick shot, combo or carom counts as 3 points instead of 1 (5 points for two or more rails).
Clearing all six balls gets a bonus of 1 point (clearing balls in order, forward or reverse, is 3 points INSTEAD of 1).
Combinations are scored appropriately (a two-rail bank into a combo is 8 points for the ball).

Points are at a premium and a game goes pretty quick. If you get behind, it's hard to catch up. Then again, being bold at the right time can really squeeze the opponent. Very strategic when competition is close. Give it a try.

Chopdoc · Aug 1, 2026

vintagecollectibles831 said:
Hi, if you can get 6 people who might join in, at $20 each, I would be really grateful, and thankful. So, that would be $140 total (shipped). Thanks a lot. Lol. Just PM me if you get 7 total people (including yourself) to join in, on your nice offer, at $20 each, lol. Thanks. Very cool idea.

And trust me, I feel extremely pathetic, writing this reply, lol.

If you want to make an impression, that shaft is a $200 shaft, don't worry about the butt if you got that cue cheap.

Cut the butt. Post pictures.

vintagecollectibles831 · Aug 1, 2026

Chopdoc said:
OK.

If this happens I will cut it up and make Christmas ornaments out of it. My wife is a crafter, my daughter is an artist, and I do leather work. My house could compete with Hobby Lobby for supplies. Daughter's work: LINK Videos: LINK 2

We have glitter, glue, paint, yarn, ribbon, leather....you name it, and I have tools.

I will give the first 10 people to kick in $20 to @vintagecollectibles831 a Christmas ornament shipped by December 9th. What is December 9th? A very important day for cue lovers. (first one already goes to Black-Balled)

That's 10 Christmas ornaments made from whatever this thing is made of. And $200 for him.

What could go wrong? How could he lose? He even gets to keep the shaft. That's a $200 shaft.

Am I crazy? Yup.

Oh. And I will make another one for @Sev because he's my Cowboy Cupcake.

Now, let's see what happens....

Hi, if you can get 6 people who might join in, at $20 each, I would be really grateful, and thankful. So, that would be $140 total (shipped). Thanks a lot. Lol. Just PM me if you get 7 total people (including yourself) to join in, on your nice offer, at $20 each, lol. Thanks. Very cool idea, lol.

And trust me, I feel extremely pathetic, writing this reply, lol.

Chopdoc · Aug 1, 2026

Well, I don't own this one, so I felt funny about posting it. But, I have posted about it elsewhere before and was encouraged by someone to put it in this thread.

I will always number this among the ones that got away.

It came up on my radar in 2013, when I was in communication with the original owner. We spoke for several hours on the phone after several email exchanges. He said he was a neighbor of McDermott and watched him build this cue in his garage. There was another, this is the second one. The other one is lost to history, sold long ago, it was his father that owned the other one. The cue I am posting has changed hands at least a couple times since 2013 as far as I know. I wanted it but the price was way too high for me. Honestly I should have just bought it.

This is said to be the second McDermott branded cue ever made. Circa 1973/74. Before the clover logo, and before he settled on his 3/8x10 pin.
As you can see, it was clearly made with parts from Viking. I have many more detailed pictures of this cue, as well as records of the emails with the original owner and the stories that go with the cue.

Here you can see it in the original Viking Tiger Deluxe case that it was kept in since new.

Brother Ron · Aug 1, 2026

vintagecollectibles831 said:
How does it feel to be wrong? Both you and Mr Ozone employee were wrong,, lol. I think you owe me an apology, lol. This cue was in fact made with real woods (Rengas, and BEM), real points, and real veneers.

I had a pretty good feeling that I was right about this, and now I have proof, lol.

It says points, not inlays!
My guess is decals.

vintagecollectibles831 · Aug 1, 2026

Chopdoc said:
Oh, there are many more examples.

The MSRP for this sneaky sits around $410.00
Series: Pro H Signature Series. Forearm Having Joe Pechauer's Signature.
Forearm: Unstained Birdseye Maple With 4 Black Framed Black Stained Points.

Here is a real ebony cue from them: LINK

Pechauer once told me that Ebony has gotten so expensive, that he can't use it on any cues that are under $1,000. So, I was just surprised not to see Ebony, in a Black cue that is priced over a $1,000.

That $4k one is really nice.

I think that Schmelky might still use Ebony in their cues, and they are fairly cheap.

Bob Jewett · Aug 1, 2026

vintagecollectibles831 said:
You could probably count how many threads I have started on here in the last 2 years, for example, with 1 hand.

I very rarely come on here anymore, so I do not know what the F you are talking about.

You must suffer from the worst cast of polydactyly ever seen. Here are the threads you've started in the past four months. Many of them are quite, um..., remarkable.

skogstokig · Aug 1, 2026

SA96 said:
Bergman has done nothing wrong and is 4-0 down to Tyler.

3 break and runs and a outrageous 2-9 combo.

Styer wants his Mosconi Cup redemption story.

a man on a mission

SBC · Aug 1, 2026

SBC said:
Full table kick billiard to ride the 9.

Get em Tyler 4 to 0.

My boy fighting for his Mosconi spot!

Styer playing like a champion.

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