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evidently Craig does, lol
You kill me
GO JAY!!!
ps. Ernie Martinez or Ernie G. take your pick.
Any body tugs on Jay's cape, needs some re-alignment, especially if they think the way to provide artistry in a cue is with a "CNC". If he needs a CNC to do his inlays, I'll pass. Hey Ernie, you out there? Wanna show this guy what you can do with a pantograph??? LOL LOL . another wannabe cuemaker.jay helfert said:You're wound up a little too tight buddy. Maybe you should be smoking something.
GO JAY!!!
ps. Ernie Martinez or Ernie G. take your pick.
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Oh the growing pains.
I predict in 20 years....
- George Balabushka will be the 2nd best cue maker who ever lived.
- Gus Szamboti will be the greatest cue maker who ever lived.
- Eddie Wheat will be who?
- And If I'm alive, I will be playing with a 12th generation Predator shaft and collecting Eddie Wheat cues.
Chris
- George Balabushka will be the 2nd best cue maker who ever lived.
- Gus Szamboti will be the greatest cue maker who ever lived.
- Eddie Wheat will be who?
- And If I'm alive, I will be playing with a 12th generation Predator shaft and collecting Eddie Wheat cues.
Chris
Well, I just spent about a half-hour reading this entire thread because of my interest in cues and cuemakers. I wish I had that time back. I do know that "hit" is a subjective opinion and individual tastes differ. But before I go I just gotta say that, to me, anyone who says he can make a cue that hits just like anyone of the famous cuemakers... and doesn't know who the famous cuemakers are... and what the differences in their hits are... and plays with a Predator shaft while he talks up old wood shafts... and thinks the two greatest cuemakers who ever lived are crap... and says he knows it all about cuemaking... just can't be believed by me. JMO.
Peace out.
Peace out.
punter said:
You gotta get rep for this! Only the best line of the whole thread.
219Dave said:
I have to agree with you to some extent, however, that only is a major issue if you rely on words in a forum environment to make your sale. As far an MBA in marketing, I will take common sense over a formal education any day. Especially today, there are many people with their MBA's standing on the street corner with signs stating I WILL WORK FOR FOOD!!!!!!!
Now I grant you that pissing contests serve no real purpose in the long run, but sometimes people have to stand-up and tell a Village Idiot thats exactly what they are.
Oh and by the way, I can't help but think that sometimes it is the right thing to do, like we use to say in the Army, it is better to be pissed off than pissed on!!!!!!!!!!!! Well that is true for most of us anyway, life is to short to be a Master Baiter
Right Smash!!!!!!!
Now my statements are not directed at you in any way, however those who read this and are offended, that is life!!!!!!!
our_auctionguy said:
We have many talented cuemaker's out there that use CNC and others use pantographs.. A quality cue comes from the personal effort to construct a great playing cue, while achieving artistic appeal at the same time.. There is nothing better then a Szamboti, which is done on a pantagraph.. But, how can you go wrong with a Ginacue..
PS... By the way, Ernie G.(Ginacue) uses CNC..
Best,
Ken
Highendcues
BlowFish said:You can find 2 of those right now on For Sale section.
Thanks for the lead. I just bought one! Badaboom! Badabing!
tap tap tap219Dave said:
Tooting your own horn don't work either.
We had one infamous maker who kept doing that.
WheatCues
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jay helfert said:You're wound up a little too tight buddy. Maybe you should be smoking something.
Yeah, I guess I'm a little over passionate about my work and the game in genral....
For what it's worth, I think I made my point as far as not being scared off by a few of the bullies on here... so as far as I'm concerened, the pissing contest is over !
Now let's start the new year off on the right foot with our interactions !
I'm here to stay, and looking to make a few more acqaintances as well as more customers, and even a few good friends eventually !
I just didn't want everyone to think that I was just posting on here only to sell my cues... however I didn't realize just how tough this crowd is and the hostility resulting from indirect statements !
So needless to say : I'm done with the retalitory remarks and simply not want to be under fire ! I have made ny points as well as you guys have and are now aware of the unsaid code of conduct this forum entails.....
I started posting originally to offer my experience and advice those who seek it about cuemaking and repairs, especially repairs because I do consider myself a master cuesmith and I have hundreds of overly satisfied customers to prove it, and I'm refering to major surgey with alot of these cues !
Since, I do NOT consider myself a master cuemaker or a beginner either, I'm a still a professional cuemaker " becasue this is what I do for a living as well as complete repairs and restorations" and I felt the need to enlighten some of you a little about the behind the scenes with costs and materials and some of the prices that has put many of these cues in orbit!
I have the upmost respect for all cuemakers in this tough market and if you can make a great name for yourself than that's excellent, however your name and success should not dictate a 500% markup in your prices !
I'm a realist and a very practical cuemaker and as you guys have seen... I do not candycoat anything I say... I have talked to many of you on the phone anywhere from 30min. to 1-1/2 hrs. and we have had very good conversations and learned a little more about each other, and the end result was conclusive " I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to custom fitted cues" and I have intigued and opened the nose of everone I talked to about what I feel at the very least should be expected in a "custom cue" from a "cuemaker"
Once again, this isn't about me... it's about YOU getting your money's worth and being completely satisfied and above all improving your overall performance !
Thankyou for my acceptance... I'm looking forward to many pleasant posts and interactions !
Happy New Year Everyone !!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
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manwon said:
That was me!
WheatCues said:
Good luck to you Eddie, and remember one thing. We are never too old to learn. I learn something new every day.
Have a great and prosperous 2008!
WheatCues
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rayjay said:
It doesn;'t matter to me who made the cue, I don't care !
All I have to do is hit a few balls with it and I WILL replicate the hit !
Guy's this isn't some big mystery, and I'm not alone on this I get phone calls from guys who don't want to post regarding this matter becasue they dont want to be gangraped....
The hit is 90% in the shaft, which includes density, taper, ferrule, tip... the other 10% is comprised of the joint pin and the joint collar, and the wood the forearm is made from !!!
The butt of the cue is for comfort the playabilty of the cue lies in the shaft !
I swear on my 16 yr old daughter's life that this is 100% correct !
I do know what I'm talking about and there isn't any magic in it when it comes to the "hit" of a cue becasue this is what I focus my entire cuemaking around... "playablility" I give you your favorite hit !
Why is that so hard for everone to believe ???? I didn't start building cues last night, I have alot of research and testing under my belt and just becasue I haven't gone mainstream "yet" doesn't make my points any less valid !
I know we started off on the wrong foot, but let it go ! "can't we all just get along" ???
I am making an effort here to be a part of this very interesting and intriguing group and wouold appreciate the same positive remarks as the negative ones you have displayed !
oh, and one more thing, I do not play with a pred. shaft anymore, I did replicate the taper and the ferrule and the same tip and after weeks of playing with it the tests are now concluded !!! I cant see any noticable difference with my shaft verse predorts playability except on mabey 1 shot a rack there is a slight noise variance and a couple of speed control points compromised !
Finally someone noticed that I have a pred. shaft on my cue ! now that this hads ben validated it opened the door for this response just to prove a point !
honestly, as detailed of a person as I am from what you have seen in my posts " so you honestly think I didn't notice my own sigature?" I have a good reason behinfd why did that and I just gave it to you, becasue now it's a focal point for a post, and if I just brought it up no one would have dignified it ! and I will change it soon... i'm just in no hurry becasue I wanted to see how long it took someone to notice it !
The is a method to my madness !!!!
Thanks, Eddie
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WheatCues said:
Agreed Eddie. Most of us covet the old shafts we have from old time cue makers. Maybe Szamboti's secret was his good shafts. I'm not a cue maker so I don't know, but I do like the way they play. That much I do know.
Today, I rarely see a new cue with real good shaft wood. A few of these guys still come up with it, like Tad, Billy Stroud and Barry Szamboti. I guess they've been hoarding this wood for years.
If you have a way to duplicate this old shaft quality, feel and "hit", then you have some valuable knowledge IMO.