I think they are drawn on the 1ST Bank of Viagra. That way everybody gets stiffed :thumbup:
Checks Not Cash At The Open
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I think they are drawn on the 1ST Bank of Viagra. That way everybody gets stiffed :thumbup:
Shanes outlook is that Barry is good for it. He always pays and where else in the US can you win what 1st place at the Open pays? Even if it takes half a year to get it.
I don't agree with that line of reasoning but I understand it. He and the rest of the players are big boys they can keep rolling the dice if they want. Whoever wins the last US Open probably isnt gonna like it though.
The funny thing is. I pose a question to all those who are the most sure Barry is not going to pay......When did the trouble start and what was the " incident or reason " about Ten years ago that caused the problem that Barry is still trying to overcome. I think it might be quite revealing to this whole issue that's been going on for about ten years........Just a silly question
The ABP is NOT a company. It is a very loosely organized assocation, that Archer happens to lead. Don't kid yourself. The ABP was there last year and it didn't matter...Barry paid VERY late. As a result there's appx $40K less in entry fees/payouts. If he doesn't pay (read: checks cash immediately) this time, he is done, imo.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
I don't know Scott. I hear what you're saying but many of the pros are "Hungry" and as long as there's "hope" to be paid, they will probably be back next year, late payments this year or not. Let's hope it's not an issue this year.
I think this is a good point.
9-11 was the worst thing that happened on this continent in my lifetime.
It messed up a lot of things, the US Open was just one of them.
I was a person who was in business for 20 years, never meeting most of my clients in-person, only dealing with them on the telephone. All we Magazines, or Newspapers. Some in the USA, others were in foreign nations. My experence was two misadventures, one was a real slow pay. A PR company with a big beer brewery account. The other party a photo editor for a major publication took advantage of me once, and every time he called me to do another job, I was not available for him to stiff again.
Why is it Pool Players continue to go to these tournaments run by people who have a history of not paying off the people who win money at their events.
This too be is unbelievable,
Why is it Pool Players continue to go to these tournaments run by people who have a history of not paying off the people who win money at their events.
This too be is unbelievable,
But...wouldn't you FIRST have to WIN the US Open to find out for sure...then you could spill, spit, throw, upchuck...your beans anywhere you wanted to...right?...OH...wait a second....was that another "what if" situation?
Glen
Boy you really do have an important issue here dont you? and you're so clever too.
If you read this post it is clear why pool has not advanced and has no hope of advancing .with few exceptions almost every post is negative. Assertions and accusations are made that are fueled not by facts and knowledge but by bitterness , resentment, here say and jealousy toward some or all the people involved.
If you had any company or business in america whose employees were made up of the mind set and attitudes of most of these posters it too would be in the same state as pool is today.
If you had any company or business in america whose employees were made up of the mind set and attitudes of most of these posters it too would be in the same state as pool is today.
Same as with MANY other threads on AZ
Hear, hear, and a resounding tap, tap, tap!
What are pool players supposed to do?
Just like in real life...the bottom feeders that play in the U.S. Open always get paid right away. Why should they care if the top paying pro doesn't get paid right away?
If I'm making $5 per hour at my job and I hear that someone else doing the same work who makes $100 per hour doesn't get paid...believe me, I will not feel bad about it.
Just keep feeding the rumors. Do you know who didn't get paid? I can tell you all the players I know from PA and Maryland got paid right away. So the top four players didn't get their full pay right away...I can tell you that a lot of other players do not care.
This is life and just the way it is. People will complain no matter what. I'm glad there is a U.S. Open.
I've never got paid for playing the lottery but I keep playing.... :smile:
Oh...don't worry. We've been bless by a beautiful day with clear blue skies and the sun is shining bright.:thumbup:
Plus I rolled out of bed this morning with no back pain.
I'll check with the bank on Wednesday...that's when my SSD is supposed to be there.
But if it isn't there, I will not be mad. I'm just thankful for getting paid for doing nothing.
Oh...don't worry. We've been bless by a beautiful day with clear blue skies and the sun is shining bright.:thumbup:
Plus I rolled out of bed this morning with no back pain.
I'll check with the bank on Wednesday...that's when my SSD is supposed to be there.
But if it isn't there, I will not be mad. I'm just thankful for getting paid for doing nothing.
You might feel different if it wasn't there and it was your job and not your hobby. Johnnyt
It's simply because over the past 15-20 years American professional pool has taken it in the shorts.... The PBT/Don Mackey, the Camel Tour sun setting, the IPT/Trudeau, Bonus Ball, Barry slow paying for years now, all have screwed American pool in a big way.... With the exception of the tourneys Diamond and Mark Griffin/BCAPL promote as well as the Ultimate 10Ball and a few bigger regional tourneys American professional pool is all doom and gloom. So, "Assertions and accusations are made that are fueled not by facts and knowledge but by bitterness , resentment, here say and jealousy toward some or all the people involved.", that's where it all comes from, the doom and gloom of American professional pool.... Mackey, Trudeau, Bonus Ball and guys that slow pay like Barry Behrman are the ones that created the skepticism, not the posters here on AZ.
If you have the money in an escrow account at a bank, you can't withdraw it in cash to take to the venue. The whole point of escrow is to RESTRICT the movement of the money; it can only be released under certain well-defined terms such as "paid directly to the winners of the US Open blah, blah, legal mumbo-jumbo...."
The Trust Officer at the bank can't release it to anyone to take to the venue. What if that person leaves the bank with the money and goes directly to the airport for a flight to Costa Rica?
An escrow account isn't just a bank account. It's a bank account with lots of legal restrictions on what can be done with money, when it can be done, by whom and under what conditions.
Also, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but you'd have to be crazy to have $120,000 in $100 bills on-hand.
Once word got out that all that cash was in one place -- secured by hotel security staff (i.e. no security) -- you'd have more stick-up men in the hotel than spectators.
The Trust Officer at the bank can't release it to anyone to take to the venue. What if that person leaves the bank with the money and goes directly to the airport for a flight to Costa Rica?
An escrow account isn't just a bank account. It's a bank account with lots of legal restrictions on what can be done with money, when it can be done, by whom and under what conditions.
Also, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but you'd have to be crazy to have $120,000 in $100 bills on-hand.
Once word got out that all that cash was in one place -- secured by hotel security staff (i.e. no security) -- you'd have more stick-up men in the hotel than spectators.
Something I noticed (just anecdotal, who knows if it matters)... one of the event staff was running around and checking with players who finished up early and double checking they got paid.
To Daulton: "Shannon you got paid right?"
"Yup I'm all set darlin' thank you."
"OK good just making sure."
...and then she rushes off to (hopefully) double check on other players.
To Daulton: "Shannon you got paid right?"
"Yup I'm all set darlin' thank you."
"OK good just making sure."
...and then she rushes off to (hopefully) double check on other players.